Obama and crew shun Fox news by OPPYH

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

This is all part of how the game is played. It's called "access". Given that FauxNews is nothing but a mouthpiece for the GOP, and a place for them to editorialize and demonize everything Obama does, why would anyone from his administration even waste their time trying to talk to anyone at Faux? As Representative Alan Grayson said, if Obama were to end hunger in the world, the Republicans would blame him for overpopulation.

Somebody remind me - how many times did Dubya go on MSNBC? And where were your complaints then, when his administration made a conscious effort to deny access to what it considered "the lib'ral media"? (And no, I wasn't complaining about his lack of appearances on MSNBC; I was GRATEFUL that he wasn't going over there and giving out interviews. Every time that idiot speaks, his mangling of the English language has me wanting to jam knitting needles through my eardrums.)

This is just so much right-wing idiocy as usual. Bitch and insult, then complain that the other side isn't being nice. Anyone catch HW Bush's little snipe-fest last week, where he asked for restraint and an end to the namecalling, then proceeded to refer to "the cables" and in particular, Olbermann and Maddow, as "sick puppies"? Wow. Good thing he's not doing any namecalling, eh?

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

All those with different views should be silenced.

Exactly. I have no doubt that you were at the town hall meetings, asking the tea-bagging mobs to please be respectful and let the representatives and their supporters exercise their free speech rights without being shouted down.

If you want to be treated civilly, act civilly.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:36 AM

This is just a sad, pathetic, and blatently obvious attempt by Obama's goons to deflect the issues that they are losing popularity on. Fox News is lovin' it! Lovin' it all the way to the bank!

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:33 AM

Speaking of gay rights, how much airtime did FauxNews devote to the big march weekend before last? About as many people turned out to support gay rights as turned out for the "9/12" protests, yet Faux didn't seem to even notice.

Fair & Balanced, indeed.

ETA: This was posted before Jongsie edited his post. He originally posted that this was an attempt by the Obama admin to sidestep issues like gay rights and Afghanistan.

I'd say it's a blatant and pathetic attempt by CONSERVATIVES to avoid real issues - things like health care reform, gay rights, the FACT that Obama has now kept us safer from terrorist attack for longer than Bush did (that landmark was reached on September 12, 2009, by the way), etc.

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:54 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

In other news Obama stated that the other big kids wouldn't play fair.

All those with different views should be silenced.

Are you really that.... simple????

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:57 AM

HKCAVALIER

I am really so sick of people treating national politics like some gorram rugby match. Oooh, and Obama is down! Pathetic! Haha, Fox rules!

Pathetic? Really? Fox has been very successful at shaping the opinion of the conservative people in this country to the point that huge percentages of 'em believe utter b.s. like Obama's foreign birth, Obama's secret religion, Obama's communist conspiracy, Acorn's apocalyptic influence, death panels, concentration camps for the right, Obama's healthcare "final solution"--the list goes on and on and on and on!

Fox has been extremely successful peddling, promoting, nurturing this "sad, pathetic, blatantly obvious" propaganda for over a year now to the point where they've not only framed the debate, they've all but abolished it.

The White House is just showing the teansiest bit of back bone here (uh-oh, that angry black man again, hide the children!) and saying, "Hey, that ain't right," and the "conservatives" all get up their best high dudgeon and pontificate on the "harm" THIS does to free speech!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????

Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:24 AM

RIVERLOVE

Fox News is Fox. I don't watch anything on Fox, except sports. They cancelled Firefly, Drive, and Sarah Connor, 3 shows I liked a lot. But they have had The Simpsons on for 20 years. 20 years??"!! I find it amazing that people still watch that.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:24 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I have no doubt that you were at the town hall meetings, asking the tea-bagging mobs to please be respectful and let the representatives and their supporters exercise their free speech rights without being shouted down.

If you want to be treated civilly, act civilly.

It wouldn't have helped. If people want to be assholes, there's no stopping them.

Obama has been demonized from the start from the republicans(it's their job) but this is the first time I've ever heard of a president crying "foul" over it.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:27 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????
Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

How is it "weak" to not engage or give free publicity and ratings to those who have no interest in actually conversing with you, but only want to attack, attack, attack?

And how is ignoring FauxNews, or pointing out that they're basically a broken-clock news organization (they may report actual NEWS maybe twice a day; all the rest is pure bullshit and editorializing), "showing that they are getting to him"?

By the way, would you say that Olbermann and Maddow are "getting to" Bush Sr?

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:32 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

It wouldn't have helped. If people want to be assholes, there's no stopping them.

Obama has been demonized from the start from the republicans(it's their job) but this is the first time I've ever heard of a president crying "foul" over it.

So, by your own reckoning, it wouldn't help Obama at all to go on FauxNews. If they want to be assholes, they're going to be assholes.

And if you've never heard of a president whining about how he was treated by the press, you really haven't been paying ANY attention at all.

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:37 AM

Here's WH Communications Director Anita Dunn bragging about how she and Obama "CONTROLLED" the media. This explains much as to why they hate (or are afraid of) Fox. They cannot "control" Fox. Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration, not cheerlead the issues.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:47 AM

Fox "News" is just a mouthpiece for the Conservative in Librul clothing media. Only they usually take the garb off so you can see 'em.
How many times must we repeat this, Jong? There IS no Librul movement in America. It's Right & Middle, all the way.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fox "News" is just a mouthpiece for the Conservative in Librul clothing media. Only they usually take the garb off so you can see 'em.
How many times must we repeat this, Jong? There IS no Librul movement in America. It's Right & Middle, all the way.

The laughing Chrisisall

Truth is Chris, I really don't care either way. You know I'm an older guy. I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days. I'm really not too caring about current policies of this or that, but I do find these media wars very interesting though. If Fox was as supposedly influential on the idiot masses, then how did Obama win the election? On the other hand if Fox is nothing but Right-wing propaganda, how come their ratings are going through the roof, just obliterating everyone else? How come Obama's numbers on just about everything are going south? I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the countyr. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us. Seems absurd to me to blame all this on poor lonely Fox News; actually seems sad and pathetic as I said earlier.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:06 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I really don't care either way

Then why the frak are you even posting about this?

Oh, it's because you DO care.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:06 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

And if you've never heard of a president whining about how he was treated by the press, you really haven't been paying ANY attention at all.

Ok, going back to the Bill Clinton years. The Right was constantly attacking Clinton. Rush Limabaugh had his own show that was over the top with Clinton insults. Clinton never had issues. He simply went about his presidential duties.
I have been paying attention, and you're right Obama has been a huge crybaby when things aren't going his way.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:09 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days. I'm really not too caring about current policies of this or that, but I do find these media wars very interesting though. If Fox was as supposedly influential on the idiot masses, then how did Obama win the election? On the other hand if Fox is nothing but Right-wing propaganda, how come their ratings are going through the roof, just obliterating everyone else? How come Obama's numbers on just about everything are going south? I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the countyr. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us. Seems absurd to me to blame all this on poor lonely Fox News; actually seems sad and pathetic as I said earlier.

Well said. Obama is turning out to be a bigger ass then I thought possible. He really thinks he can do no wrong.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:14 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

JSS- BTW, just OOC I googled "obama + blames + fox + 2009" just to see whether Obama "blamed" Fox for lower approval ratings, and I came up with ... nothing. Sounds to me like you're getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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I really don't care either way
Then why the frak are you even posting about this?

Oh, it's because you DO care.

I really only care about you Signy, even though you always attack me without ever actually reading my posts. But that's ok, I understand. See, I said I find it interesting (see above). Is "interesting" not worthy of a few posts here? Sorry to damage your calm.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Are you really that.... simple????
Are you?

I could care less about Fox news, but Obama should expect harsh words from the Right wing chicken wings. When he shows they are getting to him, it makes him look awfully weak. But if that's his angle then I guess it's up to him how he's perceived .

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:18 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
JSS- BTW, just OOC I googled "obama + blames + fox + 2009" just to see whether Obama "blamed" Fox for lower approval ratings, and I came up with ... nothing. Sounds to me like you're getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.

Obama's too smart to get his hands dirty. Try Googling Anita Dunn, Emmanuel, and Axelrod. You might see what's going on. Fox has nothing to do with Obamas numbers tanking, that's just the American people slowly waking up to his ineffectiveness. Sorry.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration...,

...But only a Democratic Administration...

....not cheerlead the issues.

Are you on fucking crack??? They were caught on camera LITERALLY cheerleading for the teabaggers.

Christ, are you blind or delusional?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Fox does what the networks & NY Times are supposed to do : question, challenge, investigate the Administration...,

...But only a Democratic Administration...

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....not cheerlead the issues.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:21 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:22 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

Well, I guess that makes you a purplebelly. Keep pushing the company line.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:29 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Uh... your the one buying into the narrative, dude. Do some introspection.

"Can't stop the signal"!

Good thread Oppyh-dude. You got folks a bit riled, which aint easy to do these days. Thanks.

Oh, just one more time....for those that refuse to acknowledge the reality of the White House's paranoia:

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced. This should make anybody's head spin: Cantor blames press for lack of GOP economic plan Check it out on Youtube.

or how about THIS: Cheney: Don't Blame Bush Team for Economic Woes http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=7086353

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced.

Thanks for coming out of semi-retirement from RWED to post that sparkling gem. Must have taken most of your brain cells to formulate that carefully thought-out hypothesis.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:57 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Nah, just engaging in Jongsstyle rhetoric. Ya like it, huh?

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:04 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Nah, just engaging in Jongsstyle rhetoric. Ya like it, huh?

Actually, love it! Your honesty is always refreshing. I'm honored to be so blessed by your keen attention today. I think I'll leave now, before your pals swoop in here and throw more nasties at me. Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:13 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Well said. Obama is turning out to be a bigger ass then I thought possible. He really thinks he can do no wrong.

I think you've got the wrong guy:

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WASHINGTON - American President George Bush grimaced, sighed, rambled and chuckled under his breath on Tuesday, before saying he could not think of a single mistake he had made since the September 11 attacks.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0414-01.htm

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Ok, going back to the Bill Clinton years. The Right was constantly attacking Clinton. Rush Limabaugh had his own show that was over the top with Clinton insults. Clinton never had issues. He simply went about his presidential duties.
I have been paying attention...

You just decided to stop paying attention when Bush was in office, eh? Remember him and Cheney talking about the New York Times reporter? "He's a major-league asshole." "Oh yeah - big time!"

Guess that one slipped under your radar. Must not have been covered by FauxNews, huh?

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:14 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
FWIW, most right-wingers are not only unfair, they're also unbalanced.

Thanks for coming out of semi-retirement from RWED to post that sparkling gem. Must have taken most of your brain cells to formulate that carefully thought-out hypothesis.

Ditto.

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:17 AM

UNABASHEDVIXEN

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Obama and crew shun Fox news

If only the rest of the world would follow the Obama administration's fine example....

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People before profits

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:18 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

You just decided to stop paying attention when Bush was in office, eh? Remember him and Cheney talking about the New York Times reporter? "He's a major-league asshole." "Oh yeah - big time!"

I ignored everything when Bush was in office. It was the only way to stay sane. I don't think calling Bush an asshole covers it. He was well beyond that leaning more toward tyrant.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Truth is Chris, I really don't care either way. You know I'm an older guy.

Old like as in three-week old head of lettuce in the fridge old, or old as in molten core of the Moon old? I dismiss age as important unless it brings death.

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I have everything I ever wanted in this world; a great family, a good quality of life, good friends, and a career in its' waning days.

The rest is great, but career in its waning days??? What's life without work?

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I do believe there is an Obama backlash going on in the country. I think people are sick to death of his endless pontificating and lecturing to us.

He got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. I could stand to hear a little more, myself.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
He was well beyond that leaning more toward tyrant.

Tyrants generally know what they are doing & call the shots. Shrub was just "Reagan dark"- a sort of amber brew that Cheney stirred & fermented.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:45 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What's life without work?

Fun!

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Pontificating & lecturing...He got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. I could stand to hear a little more, myself

I think you can still get his DVD's in stores or on Amazon. If you happen to be in NYC you can buy all his speeches at the NBC lobby shop, along with the other Obama stuff they push like plates, hats, t-shirts, and of course the Obama savings bank.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:45 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I am really so sick of people treating national politics like some gorram rugby match. Oooh, and Obama is down!

Fox lurches forward, but Obama pulls a Trinity & kicks it in the chest!!! The NeoCon wannabees PROTEST!!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:53 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What's life without work?

Fun!

Jubal Early begs to disagree. Retirement is dull, lifeless nebulousness, with the promise of enrichment unfulfilled. It is the sad end to a useful life and purpose.

UNLESS you have a bitchin' home theatre set-up, & a cool DVD collection!!! Pizza & popcorn & peeps to geek with helps!!!

Bottom line: we survived Cheney & Bush, America & the world are tough.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:54 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.

What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:58 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.
What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

Yeah, Bush was my President, sad to say. But Obama is only YOUR President if you like him, obviously.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:07 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya. I know how it feels to be let down by your President.
What... you live in France or something? Isn't he your President too?

"Your" intended as meaning the one you advocated and voted for. Like my ilk with Bush, only much, much quicker. Hey, all is going to be OK. Hillary Clinton will announce she's running against him in about 6 months. Repubs cannot hope to win it for at least another 7 years, so maybe Hillary's challenge will actually do something positive.

p.s. I like how YOU underlined "your"...made for a nice attention-getter, if not a deceptive device.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Like my ilk

Do you guys have an Ilk Lodge?

The curious Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:19 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Sorry if the facts about Obama are painful to ya.

Yet you'll lie outright and rationalize anything so you can think Fox is being picked on.

I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the definition of "fact".

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Like my ilk
Do you guys have an Ilk Lodge?

The curious Chrisisall

Had to sell the Lodge last year due to the economic downturn, but we do have some real nice Ilk pens if you're interested. Also have some Ilk suits if that's more towards what yer looking for. ILK....it's good for ya!

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