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Monday, October 19, 2009 1:46 PM

PIRATENEWS

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250 mph flying boat at zero altitude in ground effect







http://www.moscowtopnews.com/image/article/8/4/7/847.jpeg



Russian Ekranoplans
www.moscowtopnews.com/?area=postView&id=886

Flying Wing in ground effect
www.flyingboats.ca/FlyingBoats-old/WIG/WIG.html

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Monday, October 19, 2009 6:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You know this is such old news that most of these craft are now retired and/or obsolete, right? I mean, this is "news" that's more than 20 or 30 years old now.

Still, the Ekranoplans (or "flarecraft") were pretty cool, if of limited usefulness.

By the way, that bottom one? I don't think it's going to work out. Dip one of those wingtips into the water, and things are going to get ugly right quick, and the things going to cartwheel and come apart.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Monday, October 19, 2009 7:08 PM

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Wings? Where we're goin we don't need wings!




First Class section of Aeroflotboat

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:12 AM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You know this is such old news that most of these craft are now retired and/or obsolete, right? I mean, this is "news" that's more than 20 or 30 years old now.

Still, the Ekranoplans (or "flarecraft") were pretty cool, if of limited usefulness.

By the way, that bottom one? I don't think it's going to work out. Dip one of those wingtips into the water, and things are going to get ugly right quick, and the things going to cartwheel and come apart.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!








Hello,

I think those wingtips are designed to go into the water?

And yes, this is very old news. The first Ekranoplan was probably the Spruce Goose. ;-)

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

I think those wingtips are designed to go into the water?

And yes, this is very old news. The first Ekranoplan was probably the Spruce Goose. ;-)



They might be "designed" to go into the water, but if they do so at speed, it's really not going to end well.

I don't think that bottom "picture" is real, at any rate. I'd say that's a video game's version of one of these craft. Looking at the wings, either the outer section (outboard of the engines) needs to fold down, or it's more than just the tips that would be in the water - look at where the waterline would be on the fuselage, then extrapolate that out to the wings, and you'll see that probably the outermost half of the outer section of the wing would be in the water, which is going to make it hard to get the thing into ground effect mode because of the added water drag.

But maybe that's just me seeing things... At any rate, looks fake to me.

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:12 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Ten points for the man in the shiny hat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:11 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Ten points for the man in the shiny hat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican

--Anthony



The wingtips on the Boeing Pelican serve two purposes : firstly , they're a hydrofoil that penetrates the water's surface and enable the craft to lift free of hydrodynamic suction , and secondly , they function as a winglet for capturing an air-cushion for the wing in surface-effect...

PhantomWorks is Boeing's black-projects division ; corresponding to LockMart's Skunk Works...

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Meh, have it built by these guys instead.
http://www.griffonhoverwork.com/
You'll get it cheaper and it might actually WORK.

Some folks I was kinda affiliated with had a milspec light armored hover out in upstate NY at one time, I even got to try to drive it once...

You know, it's really, really hard to STOP something that heavy once you got it moving when you don't have any contact with the ground to add friction - I did pay for the fence though.


Neat stuff, just don't let me drive it, hehehehe.

-F

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Ten points for the man in the shiny hat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican

--Anthony



The wingtips on the Boeing Pelican serve two purposes : firstly , they're a hydrofoil that penetrates the water's surface and enable the craft to lift free of hydrodynamic suction , and secondly , they function as a winglet for capturing an air-cushion for the wing in surface-effect...

PhantomWorks is Boeing's black-projects division ; corresponding to LockMart's Skunk Works...



From the Wiki:

Quote:

There has not been any further information about this concept since 2002.


Seems a bit of a dead bird.

Mike

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:39 PM

STORYMARK


Wait... let me get this straight? PirateNews posted a fearfull freak-out story.... and it's NOT completely factual or accurate?

Dear lord, my whole world has just tilted on it's axis.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:48 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


From the Wiki:

Quote:

There has not been any further information about this concept since 2002.


Seems a bit of a dead bird.




Black programs usually do...

The Pelican may be dis-info , or it may have 'gone dark'...

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Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:35 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Was there a freak out story associated with this that I missed? I thought it was just a fun, "look at this plane" post?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I think he was being "ironical", Anthony. Y'know, given PN's long estrangement from the facts and truth, and all...

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