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Racism ??? Naww ... whatever gave you THAT idea ?

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:49 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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AuJongsie wrote:


On the Acorn thing...The House voted to cut off Acorn funding. ( Democrats, by the way)
The Senate voted to cut off Acorn funding.(Democrats, by the way)



Well, gee - I guess that settles it!

I take it you didn't actually READ the defund ACORN amendment, or even read ABOUT it. If you had, you'd notice why it got such broad-based bipartisan support: It was written so broadly that it applies to ALL contractors or any business OR INDIVIDUAL that does business with the U.S. government. Yup, that means we can now drop Halliburton/KBR, Blackwater/Xe, DynCorp, Wackenhut, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrup-Grumman, and a host of others from doing business with our government.

Of course, I also can't help but notice that not once have you EVER come out decrying any of their alleged crimes. Guess you approve of things like murder of American soldiers (16 of whom have died of electrocution due to faulty wiring installed by KBR), murder of Iraqi civilians (dozens of whom have been murdered by Blackwater/Xe), rape of children in forced-prostitution/pedophilia rings (DynCorp), and the like. Just so we're clear, I want to get you on record: You're outraged when one person at ACORN goes along with a FAKE prostitution ring, but you have no comment - or even avidly support it - when military contractors engage in FORCED, ACTUAL prostitution rings involving little girls. Good to know where your priorities lie. That puts you right in line with your Republican party-mates, who share your same "values".

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Acorn has had millions of US tax dollars stolen from it over the years by top Acorn officials.


Wasn't it Blackwater who seem to have misplaced some $12 billion in taxpayer money in Iraq? And aren't they the ones currently under investigation for stealing weapons from U.S. soldiers, and then selling them to the enemy, to be used against us? Odd that you keep defending them. I guess you'll defend ANYTHING, as long as it makes your Republican friends rich...

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And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass and see what's going on with this Administration? Then you might not be so damn smug and condescending to FFF posters here.



So, AuRaptor/"Hero", or whatever the hell you are, why don't you pull your head out of Bush's ass, wipe Cheney's splooge off your chin, and see what's been going on for the last eight years? Then you might not be so smug and condescending, once you realize what your "conservative" idols have actually done to this country.

Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Now. I may not be the best person to voice this opinion, as some of my previous rants have skirted the edge of racism... but I do see stuff like this all the time....




Skirted the edge? Is that like saying that Hitler skirted the edge of anit-Semitism now and again?

Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:57 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

On the Acorn thing...The House voted to cut off Acorn funding. ( Democrats, by the way)
The Senate voted to cut off Acorn funding.(Democrats, by the way)
The U.S. Census Bureau has cut off all ties with Acorn.
The Attorney General of Louisiana has a major criminal investigation into Acorn.
11 states have election fraud investigations against Acorn in progress.
Acorn has had millions of US tax dollars stolen from it over the years by top Acorn officials.
The Acorn offices videotaped by the 2 corruption-busters dealt not only with setting up illegal and fraudulent housing for a prostitution house, but also with smuggling in under-age girls, as young as 13 from Latin America.




Oooh, big bad evil Acorn. They should have been doing defense contracting, then anything and everything they do would be okay.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:58 AM

WULFENSTAR

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"Skirted the edge? Is that like saying that Hitler skirted the edge of anit-Semitism now and again?"


lol Maybe.


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:08 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Then there is this:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

Apparently there is a group of cops, military, firemen ect who have decided that they will NOT act on any un-Constitutional orders. Do we hear about them?

No.

THIS is the *important* headline.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2308023/the_oathkeepers_need_
to_be_put_in_check.html?cat=9





Too bad they, like you, didn't have the balls to stand up like that when Dubya was actually doing the shit they're complaining about.



"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:31 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"Skirted the edge? Is that like saying that Hitler skirted the edge of anit-Semitism now and again?"


lol Maybe.




Thanks for taking that in the spirit in which it was intended!

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Oooh, big bad evil Acorn. They should have been doing defense contracting, then anything and everything they do would be okay.




Right? These people act like ACORN and calling FauxNews on their utter bullshit are the biggest issues facing the country right now.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:07 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Well, of course they do.

The real issues are too scary to face.


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:30 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Since noone is writing... lol

Heres to those of us fighting the good fight.


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:39 AM

STORYMARK


But YOU aren't, poor deluded Wulfie.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:44 AM

WULFENSTAR

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See, Story? I wasn't talking about YOU.

You, and your kind, wouldn't... hell....COULDN'T understand.

Last thing I ever need to say to you.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:46 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So, AuRaptor/"Hero", or whatever the hell you are, why don't you pull your head out of Bush's ass, wipe Cheney's splooge off your chin,


Hey Kwikky,
I know your pea-brain has a very limited attention span, but if you try, try real hard, you may recall that I posted AGAINST Auraptor for days and days on the subject of coerced interrogation/torture a few months ago. My position was very clear, and you thanked me for it very graciously.

You may also recall that I posted my strong support for Obama's Olympic bid while many did not, and again you thanked me in a big way.

But now, you just can't stand to have anyone disagree with you on anything, and just like Obama's henchmen, you throw me under the bus again.

I know what I'm dealing with here with you and some others. I will not be silenced, and will not be intimidated by you or anyone else here. I will likely never again respond to you in any way. So I will continue to post, and you can kiss my hairy ass.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"the good fight".

Emotion trumped logic. That's a meaningless statement Wulfie, which covers nearly everyone. 'Cause whoever thinks they're fighting the BAD fight, neh?

You should clarify.


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Jongsie, Mike was just bouncing back what you posted. Not getting into a he started it argument here, but it's not a liberal/ conservative point he was making, just a pot/ kettle one. I'm surprised you didn't see that.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:04 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
See, Story? I wasn't talking about YOU.

You, and your kind, wouldn't... hell....COULDN'T understand.




Oh, I totally understood the narcissistic standpoint you were speaking from.

I was merely pointing out that which you are incapable of grasping on your own.

You ain't fightin' the good fight, boy. You're just wrapped up in your delusions.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:06 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:20 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsie, Mike was just bouncing back what you posted. Not getting into a he started it argument here, but it's not a liberal/ conservative point he was making, just a pot/ kettle one. I'm surprised you didn't see that.


No, there's no pot/kettle thing here, none at all. I posted about Obama and his Admin....what I got back was Bush, Blackwater etc, things which have nothing to do with anything I posted, but obviously things you and yours will never never ever let go. Funny, 'cause I never saw a Blackwater office in every city like Acorn has, but again, I have never once said their name ever on these boards until right now. And I have never defended Bush or Cheney in any way either. You just assumed I have, but I never have. Niki/Story comes in on a post or two from yesterday on other threads and mock me with sarcasm & personal nastiness only worthy of you and Rue. I almost expect/don't mind it from you two, but from "strangers" it irks me. As Chris would say, it tasks me. You also do nothing except launch personal attacks and insults at those you disagree with, whereas I just post about my opinions of things, never attack anyone here by name unless they strike me first.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:23 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Jong, just remember...

Keep your honor. They've got nothing, and they are losing.


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:41 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Jong, just remember...

Keep your honor. They've got nothing, and they are losing.



I'm not totally sure what to make of that Wulf. The first response to my long post earlier today was from Riverlove, and she got me back pretty good I must admit. But she did it with some grace & dignity, almost friendship. I responded back saying I would heed her advice. You keep up the good battle yourself. Your posts can be quite provacative, and I enjoy them.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:42 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


JS, if you adore lumping everyone into "looney libs", go right ahead, but you sure don't speak for me!
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looney lefties are jumping to irrational conclusions that all the reasonable and rational people are suddenly racist
Not only never said that, never occurred to me. However, the right is using racism very effectively to manipulate the NON-reasonable or rational conservatives. Fewer all the time, fortunately. Piz got it
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how much is fed by hate speech? How many of these people only find the courage to voice their anger when someone tells them it's ok to hate?
Couldn’t muddle through your entire rant, but I did catch
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And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass and see what's going on with this Administration? Then you might not be so damn smug and condescending to FFF posters here. I think you DO know about all these things...you just can't deal with it, so you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like. Wake up, 'cause America surely is.
Oh, lord, I get such giggles here. It’s almost impossible NOT to be condescending (tho’ I’m not, in dealing with sensible people) when you spout unmitigated nonsense. I’m sorry it upsets you, but yes, America HAS woken up, which is why we have Obama and why only 20% of the country calls itself “Republican”. It’s a waste to try to debate with you and those of your ilk…there are good debates here, reasoned, thoughtful ones, but impossible with the wingnuts, so amusement and derision is the only other option. Besides, I’m not smug; you guys and your alternate universe are destroying what slivers of bipartisanship and what little remains of our two-party system. I know it will pass, but I’m tired of you and your ranting, all of you. Put forth some reasoned arguments, otherwise, you’re only worth laughing at. By the way, are you suggesting I’m a sock puppet of Rue or Signy? That’s only worth a smile, but it IS mildly amusing…

Anthony:
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especially poignant reaffirmation in the wake of illegal torture activities
Nice irony.

I DO have to agree with Sig, however, in a very well-put statement (does that make me a sock puppet?)
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AFA whether or not the anti-Obama feeling is caused by racism, clearly racism is a part of it- as Kwicko's pix show. The only points we should be discussing are "How much?" and "So what?". I think some of the anti-Obama rhetoric is also being precipiated by Republican right-wing. That part of the party is SO anti-Dem and so flagrantly delusional that it wouldn't matter WHO was in office or WHAT they were doing... the right-wingers would be screeching their heads off about anything and everything, whether it makes sense or not (like Obama's birth certificate and religion) or whether Bush had done it ten times worse. If Hillary had been elected, I'm certain we would be seeing a number of anti-women T-shirts, and we would be discussing the role of sexism. In reality, it's due to a group of people who will stop at nothing to tear down a Democratic President.

In total, the reason why there were so few threats against GWB is simply because the left wing is reasonable and respects the Presidency more than the right wing, who are delusional and hate-filled and prone to violence.

Well said, except I would have said “SOME” right wing, and have added that SOME Dems show what seems like respect but which is actually ballslessness.

Excellent, Mike:
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It was written so broadly that it applies to ALL contractors or any business OR INDIVIDUAL that does business with the U.S. government. Yup, that means we can now drop Halliburton/KBR, Blackwater/Xe, DynCorp, Wackenhut, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrup-Grumman, and a host of others from doing business with our government.
Not that I have much hope of anyone DOING anything about it, but oh, my, wouldn’t it be nice??

JS:
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I will not be silenced, and will not be intimidated by you or anyone else here. I will likely never again respond to you in any way.
I don’t see any effort to intimidate you by anyone, nor any demands that you be silent. Looks to me like you’re getting as good as you’re giving, and you’re free to…if you post idiocy, however, I think it’ll always be called what it is. Given the vehemence and nastiness of your posts (which is not to say I don’t see nastiness coming back atcha, but little vehemence), it looks like people who disagree really piss you off. Oh, my goodness, given “you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like”, might that mean that “you just can't deal with it”?

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:51 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:58 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:





As I said in the other thread you touted these chumps in - too bad they - like you - didn't have the balls to stand up when Bush was actually shitting on the consitution.

But now that a black man is doing what he was elected for (and said he would do), you little paranoid militants are all up in arms.

Cowards all.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:18 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Anyways.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:34 AM

WULFENSTAR

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AGAIN.

Whatever.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:54 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Jongsie

"You also do nothing except launch personal attacks and insults ... whereas I ... never attack anyone here by name unless they strike me first."

THIS from the person who was never mentioned by name, whose VERY FIRST post was this:

"And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass ... damn smug and condescending ... you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like."

Do you see the irony of those two posts ?

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:09 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


http://www.ocala.com/article/20091021/ARTICLES/910211015/1402/NEWS?Tit
le=Wal-Mart-fires-employee-for-chasing-after-thief


"Rutner said it boiled down to doing what was right or following policy. For him, it was an easy choice."

For ALL those fighting the good fight.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:15 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
AGAIN.

Whatever.



I guess I can understand why you are so angry. No one takes you seriously, and you just can't understand why. It must be infuriating for you.

I know! Post another silly video, or another non-sequitor link.

That'll make you feel better.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:16 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Jongsie

"You also do nothing except launch personal attacks and insults ... whereas I ... never attack anyone here by name unless they strike me first."

THIS from the person who was never mentioned by name, whose VERY FIRST post was this:

"And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass ... damn smug and condescending ... you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like."

Do you see the irony of those two posts ?

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Well played.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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You also do nothing except launch personal attacks and insults whereas I just ... never attack anyone here by name unless they strike me first.
Why... why.... That's an insult!!! (*sputters*)

Doesn't the irony of what you're saying ever strike you? Jongsie, you might remember that I talk economic theory, question people who're being unclear, and bring facts to the table. It's true that in the past month or so I've engaged in more than my usual quota of snark but you're being hyperbolic to suggest that's ALL that I do. Even you'd have to admit that.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Since noone is writing... lol

Heres to those of us fighting the good fight.






At least post the original artist!



Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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I know what I'm dealing with here with you and some others. I will not be silenced, and will not be intimidated by you or anyone else here. I will likely never again respond to you in any way.




You won't be silenced by me, or intimidated by me, but you won't ever again respond to me in any way? Sounds like you're intimidated, and you've been silenced!


Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Wulf:

“They who?”

“They. I don’t know. That’s why they call them they. And them"

Oh yeah... and "those". Let's not forget them.

- Conspiracy Theory

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:44 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


WHOSE good fight ?

This man seems to think he's fighting the good fight:

"'It's kind of hard to apologize for something that you really and truly feel down in your heart you haven't done wrong,' Keith Bardwell told CNN affiliate WAFB on Saturday." (He's the guy who denied a marriage license to an interracial couple, JUST BECAUSE they were interracial.)

So does this man:

"Moreover, the alienation and radicalization of white America began long before Obama arrived. ... America was once their country. They sense they are losing it. And they are right." (Pat Buchanan)



Just b/c someone claims to be fighting for the good don't make it so. Mebee you need to start looking at WHAT people are aiming at, instead of just gushing - OOOOoooooohhhhhh ... they HATE ! I just HAVE to support them !


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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsie, Mike was just bouncing back what you posted. Not getting into a he started it argument here, but it's not a liberal/ conservative point he was making, just a pot/ kettle one. I'm surprised you didn't see that.




THANK YOU! Not just for the support, but for actually GETTING THE POINT I was trying to make!

Am I defending ACORN? Hardly. I just think, if their petty little BS is the BIGGEST thing you're concerned about, you are REALLY grasping at straws. Which would kind of explain the "straw" in Jongsie's name, I guess...


Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Umm, Wulf ?

You DO know RCP is a false front propaganda arm of the GOP initially founded using the contact info of a guy who had been dead for several years in order to obfuscate their origins, and then proceeded to bribe their way into becoming an editorial contributor with funding from the GOP coffers structured to avoid IRS disclosure...

Or, likely, you didn't - but the name itself gives it away since it's parsed in the same-old Fox/GOP doublespeak.

They're as abysmally credible as Jeffie Gannons Talon News Service.

As for Walmart dumping the thief chaser, that's a matter of policy and liability - they took great risks over a relatively minor offense which could have resulted in huge liability and injury claims against the store in our litigious legal system, over a mere product of less than $100 in value.

That time chasing would have been better spent on the phone to police (useless that they often are) with a full description of the suspect (recorded for posterity and eventual prosecution), followed by review of any video and posting his ugly mug in the employee breakroom with a notice that he was no longer welcome in the store and to call police if sighted nearby.

As a security specialist, this is kinda my biz, you see - there's a certain level of risk/effect assessment involved in these kind of things, and that was a bad call, motivated by a kind heart.

They MEANT well, but did the wrong thing - something you have a lot of experience with yourself, ehe ?

Those goons I shut down tryin to rob one of the units here - I didn't chase em, hell, I even looked one of em right in the eye (and he PAID for that later) and stepped aside, despite that he was carryin someone else's TV.

I wanted the TV back, you see, and if I tackled him, he'd have dropped it - even if we did not catch em, I coulda got it back via my contacts with everywhere around here they might try to pawn it.

Didn't chase em neither, not only cause I can't run, cause I was busy writing down plate number and descriptions while on the horn to 911 dispatch giving vector, bearing and descriptions to the local PD - who DID manage to catch them cause there's only two ways out of this area by vehicle, and both are far off enough that hitting this place is downright STUPID.

We had em in custody and the stuff *on the way* back before the resident even got home from work, let the damn cops do the dirty job of running them down and securing them, that's what they pay em for and imma too damn old and lazy to do it.

Owner of the car couldn't weasel out in court cause of the plate number.
The other loader couldn't weasel out cause he had the residents class ring in his pocket when taken into custody.
And the last, who thought he MIGHT get off in the clear - well, he let me get a right good look at his face, did he not ?

They're in slam even now, having plead to it and been tossed where they belong, WITHOUT me chasin nor layin hand to em.

Woulda been easy as that had not the residents cat gotten out - spent the next two shifts tracking the little munger and couldn't get down there to collect her, so we lured her back out when it stopped rainin with a bowl of grub and her favorite toys on the porch.

I won't engage unless there's obvious, imminent danger to people - in the case in your article there was no such thing, the perp only deployed a weapon once they DID engage, and it was a bloody near thing no one got hurt - and over what, a pack of golf balls ?

I will say that with proper training though, Rutner has potential, a yard of guts and a good heart, and training can cover the rest - since Walmart won't re-hire, I've made that suggestion to local security companies in the area cause sixty five is not at all too old for a night watchman, and yanno - it pays better, too.

So much as I otherwise hate em, I cannot ascribe blame to Walmart there, it was posted policy and for fair enough reasons, and Rutner did knowingly violate it.

You got the same issues, Wulfie, you gotta good heart, you WANT to fix things, make things right, or better - but you go off too easy in all the wrong directions with it.

I think you ought to find yourself a very patient hunter, and learn some things from them, about patience, restraint, when to and not to take the shot - stuff which will serve you very well in other aspects of your life.

Plus, hey, food!

Just do me the favor of respecting the cycle by not wasting the lives you take.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:54 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ooo, ooo, ooo, I missed that part:
Quote:

I will likely never again respond to you in any way.
Me too! Me too! Please! What can I do to join that club??

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:57 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
"the good fight".

Emotion trumped logic. That's a meaningless statement Wulfie, which covers nearly everyone. 'Cause whoever thinks they're fighting the BAD fight, neh?

You should clarify.




Sorry, Signy, but that post had me rolling, because it reminded me of this:




And really, who gets up in the morning and says, "Yup, time to go take on the day, see if I can make the world a worse place, and do some real evil today. Gotta get up and fight the bad fight again, same as every day!"

Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:59 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And really, who gets up in the morning and says, "Yup, time to go take on the day, see if I can make the world a worse place, and do some real evil today. Gotta get up and fight the bad fight again, same as every day!"


Well, there's this guy Kissinger, and his buddy Cheney, and oh yeah, that Donald guy they call the Prince of Darkness, and...

Aw hell, you made it too easy, Mikey!


Quit shmuckbaiting me, will ya ?

-F

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:06 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Imma sum up what Wulf is TRYING to mean, when he says these things, with the addendum that yes, I too believe he needs to get specific if he wants to actually accomplish anything, but I DO know the "good fight" of what he means when he says it, even if he can't find the words.

"Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit"
-Philip Pullman, from The Subtle Knife.

When you come right down to the root, the very core of it, that's what it is.

-F

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Jongsie

"You also do nothing except launch personal attacks and insults ... whereas I ... never attack anyone here by name unless they strike me first."

THIS from the person who was never mentioned by name, whose VERY FIRST post was this:

"And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass ... damn smug and condescending ... you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like."

Do you see the irony of those two posts ?

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Silence is consent.




Exactly. And Jongsie? You, like JSF, *SAY* you don't "attack anyone here by name", but you instead do it in a wholly pussified, cowardly, and passive-aggressive fashion, by instead insulting people by their associations: "all you lefty looneys", "all liberals", etc.

Tell me, is it offensive to you if I say that all conservatives are pedophiles who should be shot in the street like the rabid dogs they are? And if so, why does that offend you? I didn't say it about you BY NAME, so you can't get your wittle feewings hurt about that, right?



Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:10 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"... but I DO know the "good fight" of what he means when he says it ..."

Except it only became a good fight for him when it involved a black president - and everything this black president is trying to do. In fact, I see Wulf supports nothing on this black president's agenda. Surely this black president has at least one or two ideas Wulf might possibly find acceptable - except he doesn't find any of them to be good, without exception. And all of them to be bad.

It puts his motives in question.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:18 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


So, Wulf,

Since you never did come up with a reason WHY a black president should be receiving 30 death threats a day instead of the 7 an abysmal white president got just months before; and you never did answer WHY you thought racism is no big deal; or WHY you thought a man was arrested 'just because' he 'disagreed' with Obama --- do you care to revisit your claims ?

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Ooo, ooo, ooo, I missed that part:
Quote:

I will likely never again respond to you in any way.
Me too! Me too! Please! What can I do to join that club??

________________________
Together we are greater than the sum of our parts




Gives Niki a big virtual bear-hug.


Oh, and Niks: Never pull your punches where I'm concerned. I *AM* nasty and vehement.

Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And really, who gets up in the morning and says, "Yup, time to go take on the day, see if I can make the world a worse place, and do some real evil today. Gotta get up and fight the bad fight again, same as every day!"


Well, there's this guy Kissinger, and his buddy Cheney, and oh yeah, that Donald guy they call the Prince of Darkness, and...

Aw hell, you made it too easy, Mikey!


Quit shmuckbaiting me, will ya ?

-F



Thing is, Frem, I actually think THEY think they're doing GOOD. That's the part that scares the piss outta me! They think they're making the world a better place, and they honestly don't care if they have to kill every living thing on the planet to accomplish that goal.

Mike

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
You know whats funny?

I have CNN, and a few other so-called "mainstream media" sites up and running on a constant basis.

Here are 2 stories that popped up on screen, and then were quickly dumped to the back.

Remember the 'house of horrors" story in West Virginia?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/21/assault.recanted/index.html



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/10/21/2009-10-21_newark_
airport_security_guard_john_brek_arrested_for_making_threats_against_pres.html


CNN dumped this story from its front page PDQ yesterday.... but I found this one which reads,

"Gun-loving John Brek, 55, of Linden, N.J., was taken into custody after his co-workers reported a conversation they had at an airport coffee cart to authorities.."

"Brek is a Republican and a member of the National Rifle Association, his father told the Newark Star-Ledger."

So, accordingly, being a Republican, gun owner, and bitching about the President is a crime?

Now. I may not be the best person to voice this opinion, as some of my previous rants have skirted the edge of racism... but I do see stuff like this all the time....

Where headlines are flashed, then pulled down and rewritten, in order to make a "spot memory" that will last well beyond any recants. (Any psychologists here? I think I have the terminology wrong.)

Its a propaganda technique when communicating with the populace, and/or large groups of people.

(Btw, its one of the reasons I am so hard on folks here who rewrite their stuff AFTER they already post it. Also, why I would never do that.)


I KNOW, I just KNOW, you have not forgotten you are trying to converse with The Party of Intolerance, errr liberals, right? They require exercise tolerance for thee (reasonable people accept their irrationality), not for me (deranged liberals should not tolerate rational behavior).

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"The cost of banning free speech is too high."

Well, free speech gave the world the Nazis, the Serbs, Rwanda.



Really? I thought it was gun control that gave the world Nazis, Serbs, Rwanda.
Maybe you listen to CNN too much.

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Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Tell me, is it offensive to you if I say that all conservatives are pedophiles who should be shot in the street like the rabid dogs they are? And if so, why does that offend you?


It should be offensive to your fellow liberals when you expose your radical delusions for all to see clearly.
Criminals are by far and away liberals, voting for liberals an average of 89% nationwide. It would take an incredibly dense or delusioned unit like you to transfer liberal tendancies you perpetually attempt to deny onto the opposition.

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Friday, October 23, 2009 12:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW



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Friday, October 23, 2009 1:03 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Tell me, is it offensive to you if I say that all conservatives are pedophiles who should be shot in the street like the rabid dogs they are? And if so, why does that offend you?


It should be offensive to your fellow liberals when you expose your radical delusions for all to see clearly.
Criminals are by far and away liberals, voting for liberals an average of 89% nationwide. It would take an incredibly dense or delusioned unit like you to transfer liberal tendancies you perpetually attempt to deny onto the opposition.


Damn straight! Perfect description of their hopelesssly indefensible positions! I wish I could be as terse as you; but when their new Liberal limp-wristed, over-bitten lisping Olbermann-scripted, Perez Hilton-in-training Fla. Congesssman calls all Republicans "knuckle-dragging neanderthals" in the Capitol and turns into a liberal hero, then there is no longer any room for civililty anywhere. And he refuses to apologize. It will be different going forward from here. I have pre-set my controls for "personal" attack-mode only.

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Friday, October 23, 2009 1:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Irony: Whining about being called a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal - and misspelling Neanderthal!

Nice job, Jongsie. You win the Dipshit of the Year prize.

Oooh - was that a personal attack? I'm sorry; I meant ALL CONSERVATIVES win the Dipshit of the Year prize. There. Now you can't be offended.

Mike

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