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Tell me, is it offensive to you if I say that all conservatives are pedophiles who should be shot in the street like the rabid dogs they are? And if so, why does that offend you?

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It should be offensive to your fellow liberals when you expose your radical delusions for all to see clearly.
Criminals are by far and away liberals, voting for liberals an average of 89% nationwide. It would take an incredibly dense or delusioned unit like you to transfer liberal tendancies you perpetually attempt to deny onto the opposition.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Nothing intelligent to say Kwikky? That's par for the course. Still lovin' Obama and Pelosi? Good for you!

p.s Mis-spelling is different than mis-typing...or didn't you know that?

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Originally posted by rue:
"The cost of banning free speech is too high."

Well, free speech gave the world the Nazis, the Serbs, Rwanda.

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Really? I thought it was gun control that gave the world Nazis, Serbs, Rwanda.
Maybe you listen to CNN too much.

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Congesssman calls all Republicans "knuckle-dragging neandertals" in the Capitol and turns into a liberal hero, then there is no longer any room for civililty anywhere. And he refuses to apologize.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Lack of civility generally implies a lack of respect. It doesn't matter who started it.

Something I think we could all learn from around here...

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I'm glad you said that Wulf, because that is exactly what we've had in this country for a long time. It was always there to a degree all through history, but the Bush election victory over Gore in 2000 was the spark that re-ignited the inferno from the embers that the Clinton Impeachment left smoldering. And with the explosion of the internet and cable tv giving forums and universal access to all, it is no wonder that our society continues to deteriorate to level that would have seemed un-imaginable a decade ago. Also there are just hundreds of new issues and micro issues always popping up, and ideological and cultural sides form immediately. Americans have never had so much shit thrown in their face in a never-ending parade of battles, and the unfortunate and ugly byproduct of all that is the complete loss of any respect for the "other" side. And as you said, after respect goes, civility vanishes next. And the liberals here show their uncivil ways in a 20-1 ratio every day.

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I'm glad you said that Wulf, because that is exactly what we've had in this country for a long time. It was always there to a degree all through history, but the Bush election victory over Gore in 2000 was the spark that re-ignited the inferno from the embers that the Clinton Impeachment left smoldering. And with the explosion of the internet and cable tv giving forums and universal access to all, it is no wonder that our society continues to deteriorate to level that would have seemed un-imaginable a decade ago. Also there are just hundreds of new issues and micro issues always popping up, and ideological and cultural sides form immediately. Americans have never had so much shit thrown in their face in a never-ending parade of battles, and the unfortunate and ugly byproduct of all that is the complete loss of any respect for the "other" side. And as you said, after respect goes, civility vanishes next. And the liberals here show their uncivil ways in a 20-1 ratio every day.

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Brilliant post Jongs - seriously - I applaud every bit (up until the dig at liberals, and not because I am one (not) but because you were riding the high road up until then).
I think you completely nailed the fallacy of "the internet revolution" how more voices will lead to more participation and better understanding. If anything it's just more noise.

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It should be offensive to your fellow liberals when you expose your radical delusions for all to see clearly.

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but when their new Liberal limp-wristed, over-bitten lisping Olbermann-scripted, Perez Hilton-in-training Fla. Congesssman calls all Republicans "knuckle-dragging neanderthals" in the Capitol and turns into a liberal hero, then there is no longer any room for civililty anywhere.

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but when their new Liberal limp-wristed, over-bitten lisping Olbermann-scripted, Perez Hilton-in-training Fla. Congesssman calls all Republicans "knuckle-dragging neanderthals" in the Capitol and turns into a liberal hero, then there is no longer any room for civililty anywhere.

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Are you doing this in purpose, Jongsstraw??? Or are you really that dense?

Because apparently, it's OK for YOU (and all conservatives) to spout invective, but then your feelings get hurt when someone returns the favor. Who are you, exactly, to be calling for civility? And why should we listen to anything you have to say, seeing as you appear to have the insight of a fruitfly on the topic?

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Ditto to you, Wulf. Seeing the mote in your brother's eye but not the log in your own.

When you guys start showing some respect - or at least not breath-taking hypocrisy- I'll feel like I can take you more seriously on the topic. As for now, I think Democrats and liberals in general need to start being MORE confrontational, not less. And we should have started about 10 years ago. Too bad libruls didn't show up at Bush speeches openly carrying weapons and threatening his life, eh? Maybe if we had started calling you guys knuckle-dragging Neandertals earlier, that smack upside the head would have dented your bad behavior. Because being nice and bipartisan- at least on the national scene- doesn't seem to have gotten anywhere.

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Thanks for clarifying, Jongsstraw. Because for a moment there I thought you might start walking the talk.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I looooove the JS lies about name calling, gets called on it, totally ignores this fact, and then calls for civility.

You're a hoot, man. Keep it up.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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And Niki2, or Rue/Signy, or whoever you are...why don't you take your head out of your ass and see what's going on with this Administration? Then you might not be so damn smug and condescending to FFF posters here. I think you DO know about all these things...you just can't deal with it, so you dismiss, demean, marginalize everything & everyone you don't like. Wake up, 'cause America surely is.

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Hey, well- apology accepted then. Although I think you should apologize to Niki, too, who usually posts pretty reasonably.

So- you got your two days of "nice" coming. And just to sweeten the deal, those two days will be on Monday and Tuesday, since I'll be busy this weekend and not posting much.

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I looooove the JS lies about name calling, gets called on it, totally ignores this fact, and then calls for civility.

You're a hoot, man. Keep it up.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Hey Signy, if you circle back this thread, take a good look at this. This fine, upstanding, honest person posted distorted and sarcastic remarks right at me.

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I looooove the JS lies about name calling, gets called on it, totally ignores this fact, and then calls for civility.

You're a hoot, man. Keep it up.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Hey Signy, if you circle back this thread, take a good look at this. This fine, upstanding, honest person posted distorted and sarcastic remarks right at me.

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I'll cop to sarcastic, but what, pray tell, was distorted?

Pretty clear series of events. You said you don't call names unprovoked, someone kindly proved that you JUST HAD, and you blithely moved on, ignoring it.

So, please, set me straight. Where was this so-called "distortion"? I wait with baited breath.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
I would have expected an increase of threats to this President just due to the harsh reality that there is still some racism out there. There's the KKK and the Arayan Nation, and tons of other groups like them. They're all over the country, like troops of prison-yard boy scouts with no hair and really bad teeth. They're all over the internet. I can only imagine how many hours the Secret Service spends reading through all that shit. Still, I don't believe the average run-of-the-mill racist is inclined to do violence. They're a sad lot, but not very dangerous. Obama's security must be a national priority, cost be damned. An action against him would have frightening consequences that cannot be calculated.

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
I would have expected an increase of threats to this President just due to the harsh reality that there is still some racism out there. There's the KKK and the Arayan Nation, and tons of other groups like them. They're all over the country, like troops of prison-yard boy scouts with no hair and really bad teeth. They're all over the internet. I can only imagine how many hours the Secret Service spends reading through all that shit. Still, I don't believe the average run-of-the-mill racist is inclined to do violence. They're a sad lot, but not very dangerous. Obama's security must be a national priority, cost be damned. An action against him would have frightening consequences that cannot be calculated.
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The first of which would be "President Joseph Biden". Yup. Wrap your head around THAT idea, and you'll see why even some of the white hate groups aren't too keen on taking their shots at the man who currently occupies that office.

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