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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Abandon ship. The palestinians should leave. They're outgunned. The problem is that their plight makes a great recruiting poster for every muslim leader, leaving the only decent place for them to come as here. Maybe they should go to mexico, learn spanish, and then come here, and we'd never know

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Abandon ship. The palestinians should leave. They're outgunned. The problem is that their plight makes a great recruiting poster for every muslim leader, leaving the only decent place for them to come as here. Maybe they should go to mexico, learn spanish, and then come here, and we'd never know

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Abandon ship. The palestinians should leave. They're outgunned. The problem is that their plight makes a great recruiting poster for every muslim leader, leaving the only decent place for them to come as here. Maybe they should go to mexico, learn spanish, and then come here, and we'd never know

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Funny. I've long argued that we really SHOULD consider turning over a big chunk of far West Texas/southern New Mexico over to them as their new homeland, if they'd have it. It's desert, but that's never stopped the Palestinians from living anywhere before.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Abandon ship. The palestinians should leave. They're outgunned. The problem is that their plight makes a great recruiting poster for every muslim leader, leaving the only decent place for them to come as here. Maybe they should go to mexico, learn spanish, and then come here, and we'd never know

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Funny. I've long argued that we really SHOULD consider turning over a big chunk of far West Texas/southern New Mexico over to them as their new homeland, if they'd have it. It's desert, but that's never stopped the Palestinians from living anywhere before.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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But between the far right nutjobs and the rednecks... I wonder if that would just change up the scenery and cause a whole new fight.

Besides, who would have the water rights there ( I seem to remembers native problems with water rights in that area back to the 50's ) as well as natural gas rights...




Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Fiction: Israel has cut off electricity to Gaza.
Fact: In the past, Hamas officials have committed deceptions such as pulling dark curtains in mid-day while holding a meeting to make it look as though they were being forced to work by candlelight – a sham exposed by journalists who showed that it was actually daylight outside at the time.[18] The ruse was carried out with the complicity of some Arab satellite TV stations. More recent such deceptions have come to light as recently as November 2008, when Palestinian Authority officials said Hamas staged new blackouts to try to get sympathy from the international community and provoke civilian violence against the Palestinian Authority and Israel.[19] Further, terrorists in Gaza have fired rockets at – and hit - the power station in the Israeli city of Ashkelon that provides Gaza the majority of its electricity.[20] The terrorists also have fired on Israeli workers at a depot that provides fuel to Gaza and a suicide bomber destroyed lines providing electricity from Israel into Gaza. [

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I'm disappointed in both sides of the conflict, really.

I mean, yeah, carving Isreal out of already inhabited lands was an incredibly DUMB idea. If the Allies had actually felt sorry for Jews after the holocaust, then we might have ACCEPTED THEIR REFUGEES instead of tossing them off and telling them basically to go live in the desert and not bother us. I blame Churchill, FDR, and Stalin almost as much as I do Hitler for the suffering in Isreal and Palestine.

Isreal has done some nasty things, no doubt about it, and in my opinion they do come off looking the worst.

But Palestine, Lebanon, and the other Muslim states that won't acknowledge Isreal as a nation HAVE kind of been provoking a wounded dog, ever since Isreal was created.

That's not to say that Isreal hasn't done bad, VILE things, and that some members of their government should be tried for crimes against humanity. But both sides have some responsibility in this conflict.

It frustrates me when we back Isreal unthinkingly, but even more, it frustrates me that there's never any resolution.

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Abandon ship. The palestinians should leave. They're outgunned. The problem is that their plight makes a great recruiting poster for every muslim leader, leaving the only decent place for them to come as here. Maybe they should go to mexico, learn spanish, and then come here, and we'd never know

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Originally posted by Bytemite:


I mean, yeah, carving Isreal out of already inhabited lands was an incredibly DUMB idea. If the Allies had actually felt sorry for Jews after the holocaust, then we might have ACCEPTED THEIR REFUGEES instead of tossing them off and telling them basically to go live in the desert and not bother us. I blame Churchill, FDR, and Stalin almost as much as I do Hitler for the suffering in Isreal and Palestine.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:


I mean, yeah, carving Isreal out of already inhabited lands was an incredibly DUMB idea. If the Allies had actually felt sorry for Jews after the holocaust, then we might have ACCEPTED THEIR REFUGEES instead of tossing them off and telling them basically to go live in the desert and not bother us. I blame Churchill, FDR, and Stalin almost as much as I do Hitler for the suffering in Isreal and Palestine.
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The only other option was to stick the Israelis or Jews in an island away from everyone, out in the middle of nowhere. However we had a lot of symptahy for the Jews after the holocaust and so we decided to give in and listen to their religiou nuts and give them their ancestral holy land even though someone else was living there.

Arabs could have chosen the peaceful option, they could have protest peacefully against the new state, they could have fought them diplomatically but instead they chose war. I have no sympathy for a bunch of idiots who chose war only to get their asses kicked

BOYCOTT THE MIDDLE EAST

Jews, Arabs, boycott them all

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