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Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:36 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:31 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:13 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So that's how you're going to explain it, huh? Good luck with that.
Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Oh it gets better, Jong... Some of that crap was done BY the damn FBI in the first place, knowing full and well that it would be misused against the innocent. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9899151-38.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/03/web_entrapment_1.html I mentioned it here before, but I'll tell it again, just to make sure of the point. My secretary and girl-friday "Alice", used to be a run of the mill, boringly ordinary housewife. Then she clicked an advert link on a recipe sharing site, and blammo, the popup window cascade of doom we all know and love, right ? Only, the images were so horrifying to her that she totally freaked, yanked the power cord, and called the cops - who sent the feds, who arrested HER! And despite even our best efforts, she was charged, convicted and sentenced, plus labelled a sex offender - which resulted in her being divorced, losing custody, becoming homeless and unemployable (with few enough job skills to begin with) and her whole life thrown down the tubes all at once. The woman was honestly contemplating suicide when I drove up next to her and made a counter-offer, she still has "issues" to where the very sight of law enforcement personnel will sent her into a frenzy or panic attack. And all for trying to REPORT a crime - because for a long time from 1995-1998 or so, the Feds opinion of the matter was that it was better to bust the person reporting it, bird in hand, than bother actually investigating it, and it had a nicely chilling effect which made the problem (the freaks going mainstream, in part thanks to AOL and other providers deliberately sheltering them) seem to go away, since no one dared report it - till marcus lawson destroyed his own career in efforts to stomp it out... Which resulted in law enforcement throwing it onto civilian volunteers at NCMEC with no authority or ability to legally process cases or investigate them, and then firmly ignoring them, as a general rule - cause the FBI is too busy creating phony terrorism bullshit and harassing americans to actually bother. There's been *some* progress, but not a lot. I highly doubt the freaks themselves came up with this shit, it's too haphazard, inefficient and insecure - no, this seems either a deliberate attempt to cause a panic and "justify" even grosser abuses of the fourth amendment, which points the finger to the FBI... Or a pre-emptive defense by someone technologically competent who's aware they are being investigated, which leads to a couple suspects I will not name here. But seriously, given just how many ridiculous laws there are concerning computer use, should your comp be seized for any reason no matter how clean it is - you're fried anyway, somewhere in there is an image you don't have rights to, an MP3 you don't have a recipt for, even a MIDI file you did not pay the $4.95USD registration fee for (and bet you didn't know you had to, eh ?) Not to mention I hope you kept the original install media complete with activation codes and purchase receipt for every single piece of ware on the drive - oh, what's that you say, it came as a pre-install ? Too bad, you're gonna fry for piracy, oh well. Seriously, the best thing you CAN do is have a physical self-destruct unit clamped to the hard drive, and activate it if necessary - there's a couple around, from spring loaded spikes, to electromag scramblers - my people even market something like it themselves, the SCRAMdrive, which is a USB stick with a self-destruct. Simply flip the safety cover and squeeze, a small pin busts through the chip, and the packet of corrosive sitting on top to finish the job. These days, our real worst enemy is our own so-called "protectors" - for a fact you stand a much greater chance of abuse at their hands than any terrorist or criminal. -F
Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So that's how you're going to explain it, huh? Good luck with that. This is no joke. We are all at risk, but I suppose you have less to fear than most. Five minutes with you, and the FBI would simply strap a straight-jacket on you and haul you off to the nut house. Blaming Bush & Cheney likely wouldn't help you either in that situation. http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Evil_Virus_Downloads_Child_Porn_on_PC/551-107423-582.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/09/internet-virus-frames-use_n_350426.html
Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:23 AM
Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:17 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: When is the internet going to be made safe and secure? If it can never be that, then how can it continue to be a force in our lives if we cannot protect ourselves from those who would use us by stealth to promote their sick interests?
Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:33 AM
DRAGO
Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:01 AM
BYTEMITE
Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: When is the internet going to be made safe and secure? If it can never be that, then how can it continue to be a force in our lives if we cannot protect ourselves from those who would use us by stealth to promote their sick interests? What avenue of life is entirely safe?
Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:35 PM
DREAMTROVE
Friday, November 13, 2009 8:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: When is the internet going to be made safe and secure? If it can never be that, then how can it continue to be a force in our lives if we cannot protect ourselves from those who would use us by stealth to promote their sick interests? What avenue of life is entirely safe? So that's your answer to this? Shrug your shoulders and accept it as part of life?
Friday, November 13, 2009 8:58 AM
Quote: I just think it's a bit premature to shit my pants...
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