REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Hackers leak email from 'Global Warming' scammers

POSTED BY: PIRATENEWS
UPDATED: Friday, November 27, 2009 09:00
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 1951
PAGE 1 of 1

Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:57 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Make you Global Warming Tax checks payable to "Al Gore and Ken Lay"

Climate sceptics claim leaked emails are evidence of collusion among scientists
www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/20/climate-sceptics-hackers-le
aked-emails?CMP=AFCYAH


Quote:

"I've just completed Mike's Nature [science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."
-November 1999

"Any reproduction of the emails that were obtained on public websites, etc, constitutes serious criminal activity. I'm hoping the perpetrators and their facilitators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows."
-Professor Michael Mann, director of Pennsylvania State University's Earth System Science Centre, featured in many of the email exchanges



The Air Vent: Cooling Masked From Public
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/

The actual e-mails and documents:
http://www.anelegantchaos.org


NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:01 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello Pirate,

I think this topic was posted already by someone else.

I can imagine you having chimed in to decry the hackers and defend civil liberties. You probably said something about how wrong it is to invade someone's privacy like that.

Then you probably lamented that even if there was any evidence of wrongdoing, it would be tainted by the illegal method of obtaining that evidence.

Am I close?

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:19 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Hacking is done by the Govt every second of every day against every US citizen with an internet connection.

These hackers are doing law enforcement proving felonious fraud by Global Warming Tax scammers like mass-murdering traitor Al Gore (owner of an oil company BTW).

Ken Lay invented Carbon Credits with Al Gore. Ken Lay was convicted of felonies as CEO of ENRON and sentenced to death row (where Al gore belongs).

Quote:

In the trenches on climate change, hostility among foes. Stolen e-mails reveal venomous feelings toward skeptics.

In one e-mail, the center's director, Phil Jones, writes Pennsylvania State University's Michael E. Mann and questions whether the work of academics that question the link between human activities and global warming deserve to make it into the prestigious IPCC report, which represents the global consensus view on climate science.

"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

In another, Jones and Mann discuss how they can pressure an academic journal not to accept the work of climate skeptics with whom they disagree. "Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal," Mann writes.

"I will be emailing the journal to tell them I'm having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor," Jones replies. The story of the hacking has ranked among the most popular on Web sites ranging from The Washington Post's to that of London's Daily Telegraph. And it has spurred a flood of e-mails from climate skeptics to U.S. news organizations, some likening the disclosure to the release of the Pentagon Papers during Vietnam.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/21/AR20091121021
86.html?hpid=moreheadlines


NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:48 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I think I see your point of view.

It's only breaking the law and it's only a violation of rights and it's only immoral when someone else is doing it.

I am dismayed to learn that you hold yourself to no higher ideals than your enemies.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:41 PM

ASARIAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I think I see your point of view.

It's only breaking the law and it's only a violation of rights and it's only immoral when someone else is doing it.

I am dismayed to learn that you hold yourself to no higher ideals than your enemies.


Theft is wrong. Period. Doesn't mean, though, that whatever was revealed can just be ignored. The world needs to know now. There's simply too much at stake.

While I categorically disapprove of stealing, and the methods used, sad truth remains nonetheless that scammers are rarely forthcoming with the truth all on their own accord. It usually takes someone who spills their beans under duress, or information gets leaked by someone who suddenly grew a conscience; and sometimes, like in this case, the information is "extracted" without any of the involved parties being involved in it themselves. I mean, containing a massive lie on a massive scale is simply impossible in the long run. "Truth will find a way," so to speak: it WILL inevitably leak out, one way or the other. I would have preferred the other way, but out it is now. It's now the world's responsibility not to engage in another cover-up of the cover-up.


--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:10 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Unfortunately, when information is 'extracted' via theft and violation of civil liberties, I am left to wonder about the extractors.

If they will trample over someone's rights, then what else might they do?

Might they lie? Plant evidence?

When we ask ourselves if the government or police officers might do such a thing, the immediate answer is YES! If they will violate any of your rights, they might violate all of your rights. Beware!

Why then should we be less suspicious of 'evidence' stolen and disseminated by criminals? Why shall we embrace it wholesale and believe it all?

My default position is that this stolen merchandise is suspect. It now needs to be thoroughly authenticated. And meanwhile, everybody who loves truth and justice needs to hope that the perpetrators are found and prosecuted.

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


I'm sorry

Either climate change is a science issue for sf fans to discuss, or it's a wedge issue. When it's busy being the latter, I get bored.

Gore is a schmuck and did the cause more damage than good, he's already lost the battle over the co2 ppm, I think I posted that pretty conclusively, any jackass can now measure this data from space, and we don't need Al Gore to tell us that it's 700 and climbing when we can see that it's at around 370, which is up 10% over the last century. Okay, it's an issue, but it's not an apocalypse.

We don't need a conspiracy theory here. Gore just said a lot of stuff in the movie that the entire world now knows not to be true. It's completely common knowledge now that giant jellyfish are not connected to global warming, but are connected to overfishing. Overfishing is a man made disaster, and we could use that as proof that man can negative impact the Earth, if we needed it. We don't need, hell, we shouldn't just trust some politician on it.

Okay, he's right about the hurricane connection, but he's not the only one to ssay it, I could say something about broken clocks and twice a day, but I think that Max Mayfield really nailed this one, and if you look up wind patterns over Brazil, and the impact of circular currents, current shift due to ice melts, etc., it's all very interesting, but that would be the whole "we're talking about science now because we like science" and if we're doing that, can't we just abandon politics?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 23, 2009 8:11 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Wasn't this covered elsewhere? I posted to the topic, but see no post of mine here, and I see someone else mentioned there was another thread...?

I happen to think Gore means well, but anyone so obviously intent on something will find "facts" to back it up, which isn't the scientific method and I always question that.

Overfishing has gone on for so long and been so obvious that for me it's just another example of mankind being short-sighted and quite capable of denying/ignoring anything that might change his chosen lifestyle.

Here in the Bay Area, the crab season (which we've been famous for) is expected to suck yet again this year. It's so obvious, we don't need anything else; but it's ignored for the most part, just like every other evidence of our so-effective destruction of the ecosystem.

Saw a brief thing of Corwin floating in one of those huge sewage piles in the ocean. If we really paid any attention, THAT would be all we need, too...but nobody's gonna pay attention, just find ways to "disprove", deny or laugh at it. That's not gonna change; if Gore giving it publicity changed ANYTHING, I wouldn't care how much he lied, to be honest. If anyone was paying attention; but they're not. Not enough. And I don't think they ever will...






NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:49 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


US Senator Inhofe Announces Climategate Email Investigation Into Global Warming Tax Scam:



CRU Email Computer Source Code Comments Debunk Global Warming Tax Scam
www.infowars.com/cru-commented-source-code-tells-story/

We Are Change Colorado attend Al Gore book signing, rips up Gore book in his face:



Bookies Bet 2009 Could Be Coldest On Record
www.casinobeacon.co.uk/news-articles/news/2009-01/coldest-040109.htm


Arrest, Trial, Guilty Verdict and Public Execution of Al Gore

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:12 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

How many of Gore's books did they buy in order to make a poor quality grainy protest video?

It reminds me of people at book burnings who buy the offensive text merely for the purpose of throwing it in the flames.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:51 AM

CHRISISALL


Must-view global song:




The laughing Chrisisall

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, November 27, 2009 9:00 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

How many of Gore's books did they buy in order to make a poor quality grainy protest video?

It reminds me of people at book burnings who buy the offensive text merely for the purpose of throwing it in the flames.



The average book don't raise your taxes by several trillion dollars, export 85% of your jobs, kill 85% of your family and overthrow your nation. "Blood & Gore" (the name of Gore's company) will personally profit by billions of dollars on this "Global Warming" tax scam.

Probable cause exists for Gore's immediate arrest, trial, guilty verdict and public execution for genocide and treason beyond a reasonable doubt.

Communist Hussein Obama Soetoro is planning to overthrow USA next week at "Hopenhagen" Denmark. Nazi gay porn star Arnold Swartzenegger banned LED TVs in bankrupt California, while Tennessee has LED billboards selling treason at Hopenhagen.

ClimateGate Criminal Investigation Archive
www.infowars.net/articles/november2009/271109ClimateGate_roundup.htm

Climategate: Six Aussie MPs resign in disgust over Air Fart Tax, Oz govt to dissolve
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018003/climategat
e-five-aussie-mps-lead-the-way-by-resigning-in-disgust-over-carbon-tax
/




NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Punishing Russia With Sanctions
Sun, November 24, 2024 17:31 - 564 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Sun, November 24, 2024 17:13 - 7497 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Sun, November 24, 2024 17:06 - 952 posts
Elections; 2024
Sun, November 24, 2024 16:24 - 4799 posts
US debt breaks National Debt Clock
Sun, November 24, 2024 14:13 - 33 posts
The predictions thread
Sun, November 24, 2024 13:15 - 1189 posts
The mysteries of the human mind: cell phone videos and religiously-driven 'honor killings' in the same sentence. OR How the rationality of the science that surrounds people fails to penetrate irrational beliefs.
Sun, November 24, 2024 13:11 - 18 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Sun, November 24, 2024 13:05 - 4762 posts
Sweden Europe and jihadi islamist Terror...StreetShitters, no longer just sending it all down the Squat Toilet
Sun, November 24, 2024 13:01 - 25 posts
MSNBC "Journalist" Gets put in his place
Sun, November 24, 2024 12:40 - 2 posts
Is Elon Musk Nuts?
Sun, November 24, 2024 10:59 - 422 posts
The Islamic Way Of War
Sun, November 24, 2024 08:51 - 41 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL