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Originally posted by Kwicko:

...And again, I note for the record that neither PN nor Out2Lunch have ever posted their birth certificates here, or anywhere else that I've been able to find. So can we all conclude that they're not "real" Americans?

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Originally posted by rue:
Oh, I see you took out your stupid quote about Judge Carter and how Obama's lawyers were on the ropes 'cause Carter was gonna' make them pony up for REAL !.

Because, as Snopes so cogently points out (using that exact same quote), the claim is false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/carter.asp

But hey, I'm sure a simple fact or ten never stopped YOU !


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How do you account for those birth announcements in the newspaper, O2B? You say they were paid for by Obama's family?? Too bad that paid birth announcements were in the other section of the newspaper, and that the Obama ones were placed in the newspaper by information send directly from the hospital. Answer THAT, if you can!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
O2B, nonetheless, you've slid past the question which has been asked several times, and to which, as rue said, birthers "fall silent".

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How do you account for those birth announcements in the newspaper, O2B? You say they were paid for by Obama's family?? Too bad that paid birth announcements were in the other section of the newspaper, and that the Obama ones were placed in the newspaper by information send directly from the hospital. Answer THAT, if you can!

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So this should be a flag to everyone that you've tried to redirect the discussion. Stick with the question, okay?

Another question: since the alphabet agencies vet all of the candidates, are you saying that they all turned on a dime (from GWB to Obama)? If so... why?

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As for 'birth announcements' , have you ever tried getting a passport with one of those ? A driver's license even ?

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As for 'birth announcements' , have you ever tried getting a passport with one of those ? A driver's license even ?

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Announcements are typically paid for by the family, sometimes via the hospital...

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yes, the birther thing is a devise. So is Obama is a (a) Muslim (b) socialist (c) disappointment (d) New World Order patsy (e) atheist (f) all of the above The problem is that a significant minority fervently believes (a-f). When I was a kid... a long time ago... healers, holy rollers and whackos made up a comfortably ignorable 10% of the population. Now its more like 35%. Don't forget that the Russian revolution was successful with only 17% of the population.

So, O2B- no response to the significant issue of there being a public service birth announcement in Hawaii of Obama's birth at hospital? Has it changed your mind at all? Or do you find that fact less persuasive than a forged birth certificate from abroad?

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