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Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.

In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: “These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.”

However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast.

“It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,” Dr Maslowski said. “I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.”

Perhaps Mr Gore had felt the need to gild the lily to buttress resolve. But his speech was roundly criticised by members of the climate science community. “This is an exaggeration that opens the science up to criticism from sceptics,” Professor Jim Overland, a leading oceanographer at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Winter won't start for another 2 weeks.

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Winter Solstice
Mon., Dec. 21, 2009, 12:47 PM EST (17:47 UT), marks the solstice—the beginning of winter in the Northern Hemisphere and summer in the Southern Hemisphere

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Originally posted by participant:

You do know we are in Winter? You do know the Earth's orbit tilts, today is Dec 16th Dec 2009. We are less than 10 days from Christmas and 2 week from the New Year

So if you like me sit in the Northern Hemisphere then WE ARE SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER

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The 2009 Winter Solstice will occur at 9:47 a.m. on Monday, December 21, 2009. That will be the local time on the western coast of the continental United States.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Date_for_winter_solstice_2009

Meteorologically, the winter solstice, being the day of the year which has fewest hours of daylight, ought to be the middle of the season, but temperature lag means that the coldest period normally follows the solstice, so the season is sometimes regarded (in the USA and England) as beginning at the solstice and ending on the following equinox[1][2]. In the Northern Hemisphere, depending on the year, this corresponds to the period between 20 or 21 December and 20 or 21 March.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter

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"Follow not the way of the heathen,
for the customs of the people are vain;
they cutteth a tree in the forest
and deck it with silver and gold.
Thy tabernacle is spoiled.
For the pastors have become brutish
Therefore they shall not prosper
and their flock shall be scattered.
The cities of Judah will be desolate
and the den of dragons."
-Jeremiah 10, Holy Bible KJV

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, the King James bible has nothing to do with Jesus, either...

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Of course, the King James bible has nothing to do with Jesus, either...

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Not even his real name.

Many believe he never existed. But I bet he did, or the jews wouldn't hate him so much.

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(Jesus) Not even his real name.
Many believe he never existed. But I bet he did, or the jews wouldn't hate him so much.!

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Now why would they hate him? He was one of them!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wow, Piraticipant, did YOU ever get it wrong...

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Winter Solstice
Mon., Dec. 21, 2009, 12:47 PM EST (17:47 UT), marks the solstice—the beginning of winter in the Northern Hemisphere and summer in the Southern Hemisphere

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Winter's almost a week away.

And just because it gets hot early, doesn't mean the official start of summer has been moved up. ;)

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