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D.C. City Council Chairman Vincent Gray proposes emergency legislation to controll snowballs.

"We have encountered a real problem in this city with criminal elements carrying illegal snowballs, many brought in from Maryland and Virginia. We must get a handle on this right away, before our police force is required to use deadly force to repel a snowball attack."

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Still nothing?

You mean to tell me that all those here who are for police control, and FOR only cops having guns... dont have anything to say?

The silence is deafening.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Still nothing?

You mean to tell me that all those here who are for police control, and FOR only cops having guns... dont have anything to say?

The silence is deafening.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Besides, Wulfie - I figured you'd be all over this. After all, this was just a guy (he was off duty, after all, and in his own vehicle) who was pelted by snowballs (a violent attack against him!), who exercised his constitutional right to bear arms, right? I mean, wasn't he the "little guy" in this skirmish? Wasn't he being oppressed by a snowball-wielding mob?

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Originally posted by Hero:

March 5, 1770. Five people were killed. The soldiers were tried in a Boston Court and found Not Guilty by a Boston Jury. They were defended by a fella by the name of John Adams, who lost half his clients because the case was so unpopular, but who went on to some minor success in politics.

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Originally posted by Hero:

Legally the mob, both in Boston and now in DC, were engaged in Disorderly Conduct. The officer was right in drawing his weapon in the face of their refusal to come to order.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"Or are you saying that everyone else there should have had a gun, so someone could have shot the cop when he pulled his piece?"

Yes. No. Maybe.

Hell, I don't know. But do you think that this cop would have jumped out of his HUMMER and pulled his piece, if he thought the crowd could shoot back?

Or, do you think its ok that he thugged his way through this?

Fuck, Frem is right.

Cops are a gang unto themselves

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Cops are a gang unto themselves... but with legitimacy.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Again, tho... I wonder if this "officer" would have done what he did if he knew (or even thought) the crowd was armed...

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"This was a crowd in DC...I suspect he knew or was reasonably certain the crowd WAS armed."

Um... no. They were mostly white. White folks tend to follow the law... lol

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"An hour ago, we showed up to see a snowball fight already in progress. Two factions along 14th Street along the intersection. It was pretty friendly, mostly OK. At one point, there was one interaction with the police that I saw. A cop got stuck in the snow. People stopped and helped him out. A couple moments later, at the intersection, heading west along U was this big maroon Hummer. A small faction of people decided to target it with snowballs. They're throwing snowballs at the Hummer. It turns out the driver of the Hummer is a detective. He gets out. He's waving a walkie talkie. It's not going well. Then he starts waving a gun. He hadn't identified himself at this point. There was a point where things cooled off a bit, more police showed up, and he identified himself at that point. The name was Det. Baylor. My guess was B-A-Y-L-O-R."

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Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier said she watched video clips from the confrontation and has no doubt the off-duty detective pulled his gun after snowballs hit his personal car during Saturday's record snowfall.

"Let me be very clear in stating that I believe the actions of the officer were totally inappropriate!" Lanier said in a statement after the videos made the rounds on YouTube. "In no way should he have handled the situation in this manner."

Lanier said the detective, whom she did not identify, did not deny the accusations. He is on desk duty until an investigation is complete.

Assistant Police Chief Peter Newsham told reporters Monday that the detective's badge and weapon have been withdrawn.

At one point, the crowd begins to chant: "Don't bring a gun to a snowball fight!"

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Sure, Im an idiot And an asshole. Freely admit that. However, I don't go after YOU in the same manner. So, while I may be an asshole, at least Im not a SELF-RIGHTEOUS asshole.

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Also, so you are ok with an off duty cop, being mad about a snowball being thrown at his Hummer, jumping out, pulling his gun, and threatening to "arrest" those who were engaged in a little bit of fun?

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*ETA: Do you think that he would have done this if he even thought the crowd could shoot back?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Btw... can't let you post a vid without one of my own... :)

Anytime one of you guys start to think beyond what you've been fed, I cant help but have this song run through my head....

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