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War in Afghanistan
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:17 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Al Qaeda would be best qualified as a charity. It's an international communication network for the distribution of goods and services by charitable donors to recipients. Like Hezbollah, upon which it was modeled, by Osama bin Laden, it supports military resistance fighters as well as hospitals, schools and other projects throughout the muslim world.
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:20 PM
DREAMTROVE
Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:12 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Department of Veterans Affairs Reports 76,000 U.S. Gulf War Deaths Historical Gulf War Veterans Information System (GWVIS) Reports (2007 is last report) http://www.vba.va.gov/REPORTS/gwvis/historical/index.asp http://www1.va.gov/rac-gwvi/docs/GWVIS_May2007.pdf Total number of VA disability claims filed: 1,620,906 Percentage of combat troops that filed Disability Claims 36% www.opednews.com/articles/genera_clive_bo_070921_department_of_vetera.htm
Quote:"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" -Kosher General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, page 321 (indicted for treason as a British agent and cannibalism in the US Civil War) "When a mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy." -Manly P. Hall,33°, The Lost Key of Freemasonry, p.48 "The Blue Degrees are but the court of portico (porch) of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally mislead by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adept, the Princes of Masonry." -General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma in the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite "If your wife child, or friend should ask you anything about your invitation - as for instance, if your clothes were taken off, if you were blind folded, if you had a rope tied around you neck, etc, you must conceal. Hence of course you must deliberately lie about it. It is part of your obligation." -General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma in the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, p. 74 "In willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to thru center with a three edged blade, my feet flayed and forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the red sea until the flaming Sun shall strike with a livid plague, and my Allah the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same." -oath of obligation, Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine ("Shriners") "We shall unleash the Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirit will from that moment be without a compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." -Albert Pike, on a plan for world conquest, written in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15, 1871 "Thirty-third degree Freemason Albert Pike (1809-1891), the man destined to develop the Luciferian Doctrine for the Masonic hierarchy, could not accept the Lucifer and Satan were the same personality. While teaching his beliefs to a select few in the Supreme Council, Pike became the most powerful Mason in the world. Although an obscure general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War, he was hardly inconspicuous in Freemasonry. From 1859 until his death in 1891, Pike occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory at Washington, D.C., Grand Commander of the Supreme Council at Charleston, S.C., and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry. He was an honorary member of almost every Supreme Council in the world, personally receiving 130 Masonic degrees. Pike also was one of the most physically and morally repulsive individuals in American history. Weighing well over three hundred pounds, his sexual proclivity was to sit naked astride a phallic throne in the woods, accompanied by a gang of prostitutes. To these orgies he would bring one or more wagon loads of food and liquor, most of which he would consume over a period of two days until he passed into a stupor. In his adopted state of Arkansas, Pike was well known as a practitioner of Satanism, Portraits of his later years show him wearing a symbol of the Baphomet around his neck." -Scarlet and the Beast, John Daniel, vol 1 "Masonry gives rogues and evil-minded characters an opportunity of visiting upon their devoted victim, all the ills attending combined power, when exerted to accomplish destruction. It works unseen, at all silent hours, and secret times and places; and, like death when summoning his diseases, pounces upon its devoted subject, and lays him prostrate in the dust. Like the great enemy of man, it has shown its cloven foot, and put the public upon its guard against its secret machinations." -CAPT. WM. MORGAN'S ILLUSTRATIONS OF MASONRY, 1827 (Capt Morgan was kidnapped and ritually murdered by Freemasons) "Membership of secret societies such as freemasonry can raise suspicions of a lack of impartiality or objectivity. It is therefore important the public know the facts. I think it is the case that the freemasons said they are not a secret society but a society with secrets. I think it is widely accepted that one secret they should not be keeping is who their members are in the criminal justice system." -Home Secretary Jack Straw, 1997 Home Affairs Committee England "The Oath of Fealty I bind my blood in Satan's hands, All this that lieth betwixt my hands To thee, the Beast, and thy control, I pledge me; body, mind, and soul. Pledge I swear to work my Work abhorred, Careless of all but one reward, The pleasure of the Devil our Lord." —Aleister "The Beast 666" Crowley 33° Grand Inspector General Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and Frater Superior Baphomet XI°, SATANIC EXTRACTS http://the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/aliester_crowley_33_degree_Mason_knew_about_human_sacrifice.htm "But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim." —Aleister Crowley, MAGICK in Theory and Practice GEORGE W BUSH IS GRANDSON OF SATANIST ALEISTER CROWLEY http://www.rense.com/general77/acrow.htm "The true name of Satan is, the Kallaists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism and Idoltry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good; but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument for Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; hence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpant, and the Light-Bearer, or Phosphor of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend." -General Albert Pike (Masonic pope), "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", page 102 http://www.srmason-sj.org "The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the 19th Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" -General Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", Masonic bible "Morals and Dogma", page 321 http://www.srmason-sj.org "There is in nature a one most potent force, by means whereof a single man, who could posses himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world. It is a universal agent, whose supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it can be possible to change the order of the seasons, to produce in night the phenomenon of day, to send a thought in an instant around the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, and made them reverberate everywhere. The Gnostics held that it was adorned in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of the Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes." -General Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", page 734 "All religions issued from the Kabalah and return to it: everything scientific and grand in the dreams of the illuminati is borrow from the Kabalah; all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and Symbols. The Kabalah alone consecrates the allegiance of the Universal Reason and Devine Word. The Bible, with all the allegories it contains, expresses, in an incomplete and veiled manner only, the religious science of the Hebrews. Thus was a second Bible born, unknown to, or rather uncomprehended by, the Christians; a collection, they say, of monstrous absurdities; a monument, the adept says, wherein everything that the genius of philosophy and that of religion have ever formed or imagined of the sublime; a treasure surrounded by thorns; a diamond concelaed in a rough dark stone. One is filled with admiration, on penetrating into the Sancuary of the Kabalah, at seeing doctrine so logical, so simple, and at the same time so absolute. The Absolute Deity, with the Kabalists, has no name. The terms applied to Him are the Most Simple Light. For then there was no space or vacant place, but all was infinite Light." -General Albert Pike, Jewish pope of Masonic Mafia, "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", page 744-5 http://www.srmason-sj.org General Albert Pike was the Jewish pope of the Masonic Mafia, court martialed for treason for the British Empire during US Civil War, indicted for warcrimes and cannibalism, founder of KKK, president of Tennessee Bar Assn. Initiation rituals of Freemasonry: "I will obey all signs and summons handed to me by a chapter of Masons. I will assist a Mason when I see him engaged in any difficulty whether he be right or wrong. I promise and swear to forever conceal and never reveal any of the secrets of Masons or Masonry under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across from ear to ear, my tongue plucked out by the roots; my heart taken from under my left breast; my body cut across, my bowels taken out; my body dissected into four equal parts to hang and remain a terror to all those who shall presume to violate the sacred obligation of a Mason." -President John Quincy Adams, founder of Anti-Masonic Party, "Letters on Freemasonry" http://texemarrs.com "You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons, and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations." -Ronayne Handbook of Masonry, page 183 "Freemasons have long been accused of Satanic practices as seen in the illustration of the Baphomet from Leo Taxil's The Mysteries of Freemasonry, 1897. Source: Archives of the Supreme Council, S.J., 33°" -Scottish Rite Journal, "I Was Called a Satanist Today," Feb 2002 http://www.srmason-sj.org/web/journal-files/Issues/Feb02/moss.htm
Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:07 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Al Qaeda is, in a sense, what the U.S. government is. They provide schooling, support, welfare, health care, help, defense, law enforcement, and general order to some, and they wage war on others. *WE* (the West, I mean) call them terrorists, but that's not what they call themselves. In their own eyes, they are freedom fighters, guerillas engaged in a fight for the survival of their way of life, their culture, and they see *US* as the terrorists.
Quote: We've planted a large number of those IEDs ourself by clusterbombing with landmines
Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:39 PM
Quote:I reject your theory, unless you can provide backup to prove your opinion.
Monday, December 28, 2009 1:59 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Monday, December 28, 2009 4:54 PM
Monday, December 28, 2009 5:33 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, December 28, 2009 7:57 PM
Quote: please don't direct your disagreements asking for a response from me if you're not talking to me
Quote:not just to prove yourself right by adding words to find sources
Quote:If you actually give a damn about the gorram truth you'd ask yourself any time someone posted something which conflicted with what you believe, if you looked at it and thought "I wonder if that's true" not "how can I shoot this down."
Quote:And the US isn't " bent on expanding its doctrines world-wide " ?
Monday, December 28, 2009 8:22 PM
Quote:Posted by Niki2: What you left out, Mike, is that Al Qaeda is also bent on expanding its doctrines world-wide, and attacking those who do not believe as they do. It IS all those things, tho’ “welfare” and “health care” I would question, but there’s far more to it than that. To call them a “charity” is a huge stretch, from what I’ve researched and know.
Monday, December 28, 2009 9:57 PM
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:30 AM
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:08 AM
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:13 AM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Once again , despite the Vile Comments from me, the top-of-the-Go*Se, an effort is made to go back on topic... I would never say to anyones face the sort of things I indulges in here...Not more than once , that is...Coward...I've never seen one of those 'c-word' things to which one supposes I meant to refer... Unless you count the cows I molested once. I can't spell or use English, that is...Illiterate...
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:18 AM
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Mmmm, Mike, neither of those institutions do terrorist acts, nor do they propagate the "kill all nonbelievers" ideology. That's what I was talking about. Gino, I wish every head of state would do the same; and I'd leave out the caveat. Doing as our enemies do only brings us down to their level, and a child of either side can be killed/maimed by a landmine, no matter what it's original intent was, yes?
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Gino, Agreed. But these nations are already signatories to the land mine treaty, which they are now blatantly violating, not to mention the NPT. I don't like the idea of some large international hand to enforce treaties, but we need something, maybe a gentle-nation's agreement that all allies will back out of supporting anyone who violates international treaties.
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:06 AM
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