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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm still confused. Is it your position that if the situations were reversed, and three "innocent" Iranian hikers just happened to wander into the U.S. without any papers or any credible reason for being here, that we should simply let them be on their way, because there's almost no chance they're up to anything nefarious?

Or is that a standard you're applying to Iran, but not to anyone else?

Enlighten me, if you please.

Mike

Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness
For me
Starless and Bible black

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Hell, the Americans held five Iranian diplomats contrary to international conventions, contrary to the wishes of the host country in which they were grabbed and held in ( Iraq )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_raid_on_the_Iranian_Liaison_Office_in_
Arbil


they were held for over 2 years for doing their jobs with the consent of the country they were in

no trespassing, no illegal border crossing, etc


Mind you, I think it is still safer to cross the Iran / Iraq border than it would be to cross the US / Mexico border

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/0809borderangels

Before construction of the border wall began in 1994 as part of Operation Gatekeeper, one or two people died each month attempting to cross into the U.S. To date, only about 100 miles of the proposed 2,000 border wall have been built.

" Since construction began, Morones estimates, the death rate has climbed 15- to 30-fold. Two immigrants each day are now dying, he said—a total of 10,000 nationwide since construction of the wall began, more than three times as many deaths than occurred in the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

“They are forced to cross in harsher areas,” he said of the ill-fated immigrants. “It’s inhumane. The U.S. preaches human rights.” "




Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists


Lets party like its 1939

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Originally posted by JaynezTown:
Did you check the news?

There is sick stuff happening in Iran right now

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Originally posted by Niki2:
NEKKED hikers, f'r'heaven's sake? Insane...and why is that one guy's face circled? There's no caption to the photo...was it "naked hiking day" over there like on the Sanford Applachain Trail or something? ;o)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
NEKKED hikers, f'r'heaven's sake? Insane...and why is that one guy's face circled? There's no caption to the photo...was it "naked hiking day" over there like on the Sanford Applachain Trail or something? ;o)

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Please Niki, like YOU never hiked naked in a hostile foreign land where war & violence is raging...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm still confused. Is it your position that if the situations were reversed, and three "innocent" Iranian hikers just happened to wander into the U.S. without any papers or any credible reason for being here, that we should simply let them be on their way, because there's almost no chance they're up to anything nefarious?

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Originally posted by Geezer:

I wonder. If you believe that the Iranians are so peaceful and evolved, and the American government is so evil, shouldn't the civilized, peace loving, Iranians release those liberal-loving American Hikers? I mean, some of those Americans that were captured went to UC Brekeley, the American opposition to the government, for Liberalism's sake.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Geeze, stupid is f***ing stupid; those hikers can be tortured & canibalized for all I care. Jump into an inferno & whine about the heat? F**k 'em.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
So according to you, anyone who makes a mistake is dogfood? What a civilized point of view.

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Originally posted by rue:
that's just Slick putting words in people's mouths, yet again.

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So according to you, anyone who makes a mistake is dogfood?

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Originally posted by Geezer:

So according to you, anyone who makes a mistake is dogfood?

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Hey Geeze, wanna be the first man on the Sun? It'll be cool! Well, not so COOL, but your cinder would be remembered!
And no dog would eat you!

*COUGHdick*





The laughing Chrisisall

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When I was five, I put my hand too close to a lawnmower. Guess what? I lost (small) parts of two fingers. ADULTS that can decide to pay airfare & hike NAKED deserve LESS sympathy.

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I'm still confused. Is it your position that if the situations were reversed, and three "innocent" Iranian hikers just happened to wander into the U.S. without any papers or any credible reason for being here, that we should simply let them be on their way, because there's almost no chance they're up to anything nefarious?

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I wonder. If you believe that the Iranians are so peaceful and evolved, and the American government is so evil, shouldn't the civilized, peace loving, Iranians release those liberal-loving American Hikers? I mean, some of those Americans that were captured went to UC Brekeley, the American opposition to the government, for Liberalism's sake.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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So then the guys who were stupid enough to be hanging out in Al Queda areas, get captured, and end up in Gitmo deserved it too? Governments that are stupid enough to brag about their weapons of mass destruction and promise the "mother of all battles" if attacked deserve to be overthrown?

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You realize, don't you, that you've just justified the entire Bush Administration.

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y position is that Iran is likely a nation with a population that's as human as anywhere else

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Can you please show me where I've ever said that "the Iranians are so peaceful and evolved", or that "the American government is so evil"?

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You seem to have a misguided belief that ONLY America is peaceful and evolved, and every other nation is backwards, savage, and relies on our divine guidance to show them the light and the word.

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Actually... yep.

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So when you stuck your hand in the lawnmower, your parents were justified in saying "Go ahead and bleed to death, you idiot. That'll teach you to be so stupid"?

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Governments that are stupid enough to brag about their weapons of mass destruction and promise the "mother of all battles" if attacked deserve to be overthrown?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm still confused. Is it your position that if the situations were reversed, and three "innocent" Iranian hikers just happened to wander into the U.S. without any papers or any credible reason for being here, that we should simply let them be on their way, because there's almost no chance they're up to anything nefarious?

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