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Rudy Giuliani: 'We had no domestic attacks under Bush'

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Saturday, January 9, 2010 7:19 AM

PIRATENEWS

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On ABC News, coverup artist Stephanopoulos of course said nothing to correct him...
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/giuliani-no-domestic-attacks-under-bush/

And no questions about Rudy's kosher police chief Bernie Kerik jailed for felonies on 9/11, picked as Fatherland Security director by Jr Bush.
youtube.com/watch?v=Pt4Nh1BjPAw

Nor about Rudy's Mafia family of hijackers, robbers and hitmen.
http://www.rense.com/general79/guil.htm

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"What he should be doing is following the right things that Bush did," Giuliani said. "One of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror -- we had no domestic attacks under Bush; we had one under Obama."

The former mayor criticized Obama for opting to handle the alleged bomber's case in civilian court, essentially saying that the problem with civilian courts is that suspects are given lawyers.

"If you put someone in a civilian court, within a short period of time a lawyer is appointed and the person shuts up," he remarked. "If you have a person in the military system, you can question him endlessly for as long as you have to to make sure you've got the full scope of information."

"I'm very hopeful that President Obama turned a corner yesterday," he said. "He first used the words, thank goodness, 'War on Terror.'"








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Saturday, January 9, 2010 9:54 AM

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BREAKING NEWS: DRUNK NYPD chief of police guilty of hit-and-run against pregnant woman

January 8, 2010

Howard Safir, a New York City police commissioner during the Giuliani administration, backed his sport utility vehicle into a pregnant woman on the Upper East Side on Friday afternoon and then drove away, the police said.

The woman, Joanne M. Valarezo, 30, of the Bronx, was not knocked down and was not seriously injured in the accident, which occurred at 2:25 p.m. in front of 1418 Third Avenue, the authorities said. They said she was able to jot down the license plate of Mr. Safir’s black 2009 Cadillac Escalade.

Ms. Valarezo was taken by ambulance to New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, where she was treated for a bruised shoulder and then released, the police said. Ms. Valarezo’s unborn child, nearing its seventh month, was apparently not affected, she later said.

Detectives from the 19th Precinct tracked Mr. Safir down, questioned him and “determined there is no criminality,” said a law enforcement official. The detectives determined that Mr. Safir was unaware that he had struck the woman before driving away, another law enforcement official said.

But the woman’s account raised questions about that.

The police said that Mr. Safir’s Escalade was double-parked, and hemmed in by two vehicles, and that the accident occurred as he was maneuvering out of that spot. It was not immediately clear how long it took detectives to reach Mr. Safir, who did not immediately return calls for comment left at his home in Annapolis, Md., and at an apartment he keeps in New York.

Mr. Safir, 67, was traveling with his wife when the accident occurred, the police said.

Ms. Valarezo said in a telephone interview on Friday night that she was on a break from her job at a doctor’s office and had gone to buy socks for her unborn child when she was hit.

“I was crossing the street in between cars and he hit reverse, and his female passenger screamed, ‘Are you not looking, there’s someone there,’ and as he was reversing, he hit me on my shoulder and my knee and the side of my stomach,” she said.

Then he started to drive away, she said.

“I confronted him and I said, ‘I’m pregnant. Did you not see?’ And he just disregarded that and kept going,” she said. She said if the passenger had not screamed, causing her to turn, she would been hurt more seriously.

Ms. Valarezo said her unborn baby, a boy, “is fine now, thank God. Everything looks good with my child.”

Ms. Valarezo said she did not recognize the driver.

Told he was a former police commissioner, she said: “Are you serious? Oh, my God, I did not know that. Wow. O.K., that would explain why all these detectives came to see me. I had detectives come see me in the hospital, and nobody told me who he was.”

She added: “I’m shaking now. So he has been caught?”

Told he was found but not charged, Ms. Valarezo said, “Really.”

Then she laughed.

She asked for his name, and when given it, said, “You would think that a man who abides by the law should follow it.”

Mr. Safir’s conduct when he was commissioner and his wife was in a minor car accident, in 1999, prompted questions. He sent two detectives to the home of a woman involved in the crash, who had provided a false name before leaving the scene.

In a later interview, Mr. Safir defended that response.

“When we found out that this woman lied, I wanted to find out who she was, to see if she was a threat to me or my family,” he said.

On Friday evening, Al McNeill, an aide at SafirRosetti, the security firm Mr. Safir now works at, said that he was unaware of the crash and that Mr. Safir was out of state.

Mr. Safir and Joseph R. Rosetti, a former director of security for IBM, founded the firm in 2001.

Mr. Safir’s tenure as police commissioner was occasionally controversial.

He was tapped in 1996 by Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for the position after spending two years leading the Fire Department. The crime rate dropped during his tenure, and in 1998 killings dropped to their lowest level since 1962. Mr. Safir bristled at critics who contended that he was simply coasting on the innovations of his predecessor, William J. Bratton.

Once a heralded federal marshal, Mr. Safir cut a grim-faced figure behind Mr. Giuliani, reluctant to engage with the press. Yet that did not help him avoid scrutiny.

Two cases — the torture of Abner Louima, a Haitian immigrant, in a police station bathroom and the death of Amadou Diallo amid a spray of 41 police bullets — brought to the fore concerns about police brutality and the force’s relationship with the city’s black and Hispanic residents.

Mr. Safir, who resigned in August 2000 to work for a private security firm, drew criticism earlier that year. The city’s Conflicts of Interest Board rebuked him for accepting a trip to the Academy Awards in Los Angeles as a guest of the president of Revlon, which hired off-duty officers as part of a city program.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/09/nyregion/09safir.html

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Howard Safir

Director
Implant Sciences Corporation
Wakefield , MA
Sector: HEALTHCARE / Medical Instruments & Supplies
http://implantsciences.com

Chief Executive Officer, Security Consulting and Investigations Unit , Globaloptions Group, Inc
New York , NY
Sector: SERVICES / Management Services
Officer since May 2006

67 Years Old
On May 22, 2009, Howard Safir elected to the Company's Board of Directors. Mr. Safir, 67, is Chief Executive Officer of the Security Consulting and Investigations Unit of GlobalOptions Group, Inc., a provider of risk mitigation and management services to government entities, Fortune 1,000 corporations and high net-worth and high-profile individuals. Mr. Safir has served in that position since the acquisition of Safir Rosetti, LLC, a security, investigative and intelligence consulting firm, by GlobalOptions Group in May 2006. Mr. Safir served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Safir Rosetti from December 2001 until its acquisition. Prior to that time, Mr. Safir was Vice Chairman of IPSA International, a provider of investigative and security consulting services. From 1996 to 2000, Mr. Safir served as Police Commissioner of New York City. From 1994 to 1996, Mr. Safir served as New York City's Fire Commissioner. Mr. Safir began his law enforcement career in 1965 as a special agent assigned to the New York office of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, a forerunner of the Drug Enforcement Administration (the 'DEA'). From 1977 to 1978, Mr. Safir served as Assistant Director of the DEA. From 1978 to 1990, Mr. Safir worked for the United States Marshals Service, where he served as Director of the Witness Protection Program and Assistant Director for Operations. Mr. Safir is currently Chairman of the Board of Directors of GVI Security Solutions, Inc., a provider of video surveillance and security solutions products, and National Security Solutions Inc., a blank check company organized for the purpose of effecting a business combination, including with entities involved in the security and homeland defense industries. Mr. Safir also serves as a Director of Verint Systems, Inc., a provider of intelligence solutions for enterprise workforce optimization and security intelligence, and as Chief Executive Officer of the November Group, Ltd., through which he provides technical and management consulting services to companies. Mr. Safir is a member of the executive committee of the International Association of Chiefs of Police and has served as a delegate to INTERPOL, the National Drug Policy Board and the El Paso Intelligence Center Advisory Board. He holds a B.A. in History and Political Science from Hofstra University, and has holds certificates from Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government's programs for Senior Managers in Government and National and International Security.

http://people.forbes.com/profile/howard-safir/37396



30 Dec 2009: Implant Sciences Corp defaults on loans, Xmas bomber raises interest in ISC's explosive detection systems. How convenient...
http://newsblaze.com/story/2009123110372500001.bw/topstory.html

9/11 Inside Job: Did NYPD chief Safir plant thermite explosives in WTC, or did chief Kerik?
www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=9%2F11+inside+job&aq=f&oq=&aqi
=g10

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Saturday, January 9, 2010 10:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What virtually ANY of that has to do with Guilliani claiming there were no terror attacks is beyond me. Still, I suppose better it's in one thread...which will hopefully now sink of its own weight.

Why anyone on earth or with half a brain should pay any attention to what Mr. "A noun, a verb and 911" has to say is beyond me.



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Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Why anyone on earth or with half a brain should pay any attention to what Mr. "A noun, a verb and 911" has to say is beyond me.



Evil flourishes when good folks do nothing.

Doesn't rewriting history by the victors concern you? Especially when the 9/11 terrorists are writing the US history books. Most Amerikans don't even know what year 9/11 was, or who was accused of the attacks.



Sir Rudy Giuliani Knight of the British Empire was in London during the 7/7 Bombings, since his company ran the contract for "bombing drills" at the same train stations at the exact same time. Just like Rudy was running a CIA "terrorism drill" of hijacked airliners crashing into WTC and Pentagon on 9/11/2001. More of Rudy's dope-dealin buddies go to jail.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=821
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97643.5;wap2


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Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
What virtually ANY of that has to do with Guilliani claiming there were no terror attacks is beyond me. Still, I suppose better it's in one thread...which will hopefully now sink of its own weight.

Why anyone on earth or with half a brain should pay any attention to what Mr. "A noun, a verb and 911" has to say is beyond me.






Thing is, this wasn't a simple "misspeak" by Giuliani. Or if it was, it's contagious. I heard Dana Pirino say it during an appearance on Hannity's show a week or so ago, too.

And Hannity didn't even blink, much less call her on it. "There were no terrorist attacks during the Bush presidency" was her claim. And Hannity could have at least said, "Well, y'know, except for that one day..." or some such. Or brought up the Shoe Bomber (hey, if Cap'n Underpants is a terrorist, the Shoe Bomber must be as well, right?) or the anthrax attacks, right?

This is the Republicans' latest talking point, the idea that there was never any terrorist attack under Dubya. None. Nada. Never happened.

So tell me again what we're fighting, and why?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, January 9, 2010 4:36 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Version of the quote I saw said something about there were no " domestic" terror attacks. Not sure what The Rudy uses for a definition-- not happening in America, didn't involve American citizens, didn't start in America, can't see how any definition you'd use would be true, except maybe, "didn't happen while a Democrat was President."

Only definition that matters is "wasn't really successful." Which also applies to Bush, about the Shoe Bomber.

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Saturday, January 9, 2010 5:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

This is the Republicans' latest talking point, the idea that there was never any terrorist attack under Dubya. None. Nada. Never happened.



That's what hit me. They're rewriting the history books, literally. School textbooks already skip 9/11, and everything else that's a false flag.

We've always been at war with East Asia.

Emmanuel Goldstein runs Al Qaeda.

And Queen Rudy wears a dress.


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Saturday, January 9, 2010 5:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

Only definition that matters is "wasn't really successful." Which also applies to Bush, about the Shoe Bomber.



Same Israeli security company let both bombers on the airliners. Not enough PETN to drop a plane. Mossod psyops.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=41270

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Will the real Underwear Bomber please stand up?

Photo 1 Source and most widely used photo of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab
http://www.smh.com.au/world/britain-admits-jihadist-intelligence-failu
res-20100103-lnf3.html


Photo 2 from a Ghana News Site..detailing the purchase of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's plane ticket in Ghana
http://ghanabusinessnews.com/2009/12/28/failed-nigerian-bomber-bought-
air-ticket-from-ghana
/

These are definitely two different human beings.

Is there a more sinister meaning to this story? Was the young man in Photo 1 a baby-faced patsy coerced into being the fall guy?

http://tnsonsofliberty.vox.com/library/post/will-the-real-underwear-bo
mber-please-stand-up.html


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Saturday, January 9, 2010 5:23 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So tell me again what we're fighting, and why?



Why we're in Iraq and Afghanistan....

...So the American PTB can work toward securing oil/gas resources away from the other superpowers (Russia, China). Hmm, now what country is between Iraq and Afgha, and has oil? (Why do you think our Gov't has been messing with Iran for 50-ish years?)

...To keep unemployment levels down. If hundreds of thousands of people are busy, injured, or killed during a "war", that's less people to collect a check every month. Also, less people complaining that their job got shipped overseas.

...To add to the distractions so the PTB can loot the treasury (didn't the US have a Trillion dollar surplus in 2000? Mmm, yummy money!), fux with stocks (I know next to nothing about that stuff, but I do know nothing vanishes without a trace) and deregulate for max. profits (tax cuts for billionaires, etc.).



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Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Well, PN, if they're not rewriting the history books LITERALLY quite yet, they're certainly trying to rewrite them and leave out uncomfortable facts leading into the mid-term elections. They're REALLY into turd-polishing in trying to convince us that "Bush Kept Us Safe!", and that's what they're trying to run on. And they honestly expect Americans to NOT remember 9/11 or anthrax.

Now, if they could only get someone on American Idle [sic] to keep saying it, all Americans would finally believe it...

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I don't see them having any luck re-writing history books on this issue...9/11 is too big and too firmly ensconced in America's minds. Obviously they're trying, and getting called on it (tho' I'm not sure the MSM as picked it up, or maybe feels it's even worth talking about). It's an assinine tactic, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, they'll keep trying, but I don't think it will be successful. I wish someone would call Guiliani on it to his face, dammit, and the others too.

Jeez, who expected anyone on Faux News to call him on it? Remember the fake video showing huge crowds at their DC rally? They have no problem with him lying, and no doubt will push the revised history themselves. And sadly, some of their more ignorant audience WILL buy it! Shees!



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Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Niki, you give conservatives far too much credit. These are people who ALREADY are firmly convinced that 9/11 was 100% Clinton's fault, and Bush had absolutely nothing to do with anything related to it. It's not a stretch to imagine that they could be convinced that it not only wasn't Bush's responsibility, but that it didn't even happen on his watch. He was, after all, on vacation at the time, right? ;)


Now, if you question them and really get them thinking about it, they'll admit that Bush WAS the prez when it went down - but subjectively, in their minds and hearts, Bush kept us safe, and they'd love to believe - and will firmly convince themselves - that we were never attacked while Bush was in office.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:33 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


How many times has well know conservatives come out saying the 911 hijackers traveled through Canada...

Which they did not.

Either they don't know what they are talking about, they are stupid, or they think if you repeat something enough times people will believe you.

My money is on three

and that is how they change history to suit whatever crap they have planned...





Either your with the terrorists, or ... your with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Monday, January 11, 2010 9:07 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, okay, I guess you're right...frustrating tho'...



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Monday, January 11, 2010 9:53 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
What virtually ANY of that has to do with Guilliani claiming there were no terror attacks is beyond me. Still, I suppose better it's in one thread...which will hopefully now sink of its own weight.

Why anyone on earth or with half a brain should pay any attention to what Mr. "A noun, a verb and 911" has to say is beyond me.






Shhhh... just be thankful he's keeping extra bits of crazy in one thread, rather than starting more.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, January 11, 2010 10:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
What virtually ANY of that has to do with Guilliani claiming there were no terror attacks is beyond me. Still, I suppose better it's in one thread...which will hopefully now sink of its own weight.

Why anyone on earth or with half a brain should pay any attention to what Mr. "A noun, a verb and 911" has to say is beyond me.






Shhhh... just be thankful he's keeping extra bits of crazy in one thread, rather than starting more.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



QUIET, MAN - do you want to release the Kraken?!

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, January 11, 2010 10:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


, my bad; thank you. I didn't think about that!



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Monday, January 11, 2010 11:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


No worries, Niks - he's going to be crazy no matter WHERE on the site he is. :)

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Monday, November 23, 2020 5:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


and now Trump?

Rudy gone voter political?

'The 3 conspirators in this attempt to steal this Election'... media, big tech companies acting to censor information h....Three conspiracy types?... are the democrat party, big tech, and big media.
Tv Media, social Democrats, Tech, Giuliani claims is in the pocket of Silicon Valley.
'The facts are coming out.'

fake but fraud friendly mail-in votes says Rudy



Seems to be speculation more than names or evidence

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/tru
mp-giuliani-press-conference-election-biden-b1749632.html


,

Also more Allegations of Fraud in Nevada


Giuliani Wants Supreme Court To Decide The Election
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-lawsuits/2020/11/17/id/
997453
/

In an interview with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, Giuliani said the lawsuits being filed by the Trump campaign might reveal that up to 900,000 invalid ballots were cast in the state of Pennsylvania, a key election swing state several news outlets projected presumptive President-elect Joe Biden would win. "Do you believe that you have enough to actually change the fate of the election?" Bartiromo asked. "Well, I think we have enough to change Pennsylvania.

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Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:14 PM

REAVERFAN


It's perfectly legal to go on TV and social media and lie your ass off. We watch grifters like Trump and Rudy do that, Every. Single. Day.

When you go to court to make those claims, you better come correct. That's why, in actual courtrooms, it obvious that they've got nothing, and they get laughed out of the room.







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