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Justice Stevens Bemoans Changed Court
Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:22 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:When liberal Justice John Paul Stevens dissented Thursday as the Supreme Court permitted new corporate spending in elections, he invoked the names of influential and long-gone justices. Nominating John Paul Stevens is one of President Ford's most enduring legacies.He began with retired Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, with whom he had worked on a 2003 case the majority was partially overruling. He referred to the late Justice Thurgood Marshall's warning in a 1990 case, also overturned, about how corporate money can distort political debate. Stevens then cited the late Justice Byron White about the importance of deferring to Congress, which had passed the law the majority discarded Thursday. As Stevens invoked lions of the past and decried the majority's decision, he spoke for twice as long from the bench as Justice Anthony Kennedy had for the majority. Over the course of his 20 minutes, Stevens also spoke with more passion — and more weariness. His words about the changed court reminded spectators not only of a passing era in campaign finance law but of all that Stevens had witnessed over his nearly 35 years on the bench, including the ideological shift to the right under Chief Justice John Roberts, appointed by President George W. Bush in 2005. The five-justice conservative majority, which has flexed its ideological muscle in many areas in recent years, had been moving toward greater limits on government power to regulate campaign money. Thursday's decision, blurring legal distinctions between corporations and individuals and highlighting free political speech, is the most significant to date. It outright reverses the 1990 Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce and portions of the 2003 case of McConnell v. Federal Election Commission, both of which had upheld government limits on corporate expenditures. Thursday's case originally had come to the justices as a narrow challenge to Citizens United's offering of Hillary Clinton: The Movie. The conservative non-profit corporation had sought to sell the movie attacking then-presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton during the 2008 election season through a TV video-on-demand service. The justices ratcheted up the stakes last June when they said they would use the case to re-examine the past rulings allowing regulation of corporate spending in races.
Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:28 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:38 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Here's Obama's next nominee for SCOTUS, who wants infiltration of ALL political groups including entrapping them to commit terrorist acts, and forced organ harvesting from non-consenting sheeple (organs must be amputated while the "terminal" patient is still alive)
Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: This is an incredible shift to the right which has me scared for the future of democracy. Bad as it is now, I can envision far worse...
Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:22 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Oooh...forced organ harvesting of the living! Finally!! And you get a free Rick James CD with a Rohrer 714 inside too!
Monday, January 25, 2010 8:16 AM
Quote:When did the idea of stacking the deck for Liberal or Conservative causes at the Supreme Court ever become a good idea ? Oh.. yeah.. NEVER
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: ... might actually save our country from the "fringes" (Liberal/Conservative) that have hijacked her.
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:40 AM
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Again. I have no intention of defeating a governmental tyranny, and replacing it with a corporate one. ESPECIALLY a foreign one.
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:48 AM
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Got a better idea? One that doesn't subjugate people, please.
Monday, January 25, 2010 10:57 AM
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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Well, yes it was.
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:18 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Before the rush... Patton: [apologizing to his troops after the "slapping" incident] I can assure you that I had no intention of being either harsh or cruel in my treatment of the... soldier in question. My sole purpose was to try to restore in him some sense of appreciation of his obligations as a man and as a soldier. "If one could shame a coward," I felt, "one might help him to regain his self-respect." This was on my mind. Now, I freely admit that my method was wrong, but I hope you can understand my motive. And that you will accept this explanation... and this... apology.
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:26 AM
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Before the rush... Patton: [apologizing to his troops after the "slapping" incident] I can assure you that I had no intention of being either harsh or cruel in my treatment of the... soldier in question. My sole purpose was to try to restore in him some sense of appreciation of his obligations as a man and as a soldier. "If one could shame a coward," I felt, "one might help him to regain his self-respect." This was on my mind. Now, I freely admit that my method was wrong, but I hope you can understand my motive. And that you will accept this explanation... and this... apology. And once again, you get it wrong when you base your entire knowledge of history on Hollywood movies. That soldier that Patton slapped? He was taken to the hospital, where it was discovered he had malaria. How very cowardly of him to get deathly ill on Patton's watch... Maybe when someone you know gets sick, you can slap them into health again, Wulfie.
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:32 AM
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Before the rush... Patton: [apologizing to his troops after the "slapping" incident] I can assure you that I had no intention of being either harsh or cruel in my treatment of the... soldier in question. My sole purpose was to try to restore in him some sense of appreciation of his obligations as a man and as a soldier. "If one could shame a coward," I felt, "one might help him to regain his self-respect." This was on my mind. Now, I freely admit that my method was wrong, but I hope you can understand my motive. And that you will accept this explanation... and this... apology. And once again, you get it wrong when you base your entire knowledge of history on Hollywood movies. That soldier that Patton slapped? He was taken to the hospital, where it was discovered he had malaria. How very cowardly of him to get deathly ill on Patton's watch... Maybe when someone you know gets sick, you can slap them into health again, Wulfie. Tell you what....I'm outta here. YOU guys just go on and continue your daily discussions with Wulf. I'm only seeing retardation. I made a mistake engaging. Now where's my f!&^*%$ing liberal friends? Need to clear my head some.
Monday, January 25, 2010 11:56 AM
Monday, January 25, 2010 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: "Frankly, Jongs, I'd rather talk with you than Wulfie. You've shown a capacity to learn and grow!" Funny how your measuring stick of "growth" means that folks come closer to your fold. Talk about elitism. I've learned alot here, and grown a hell of a lot more. Just not in the direction YOU and your kind want. Funny, also, how free people act, isn't it? I guess your only solution is to clamp down on that free growth. I mean, free thinking/minded people are like weeds, right? Don't want them to get out of control.
Monday, January 25, 2010 12:08 PM
Monday, January 25, 2010 1:44 PM
Quote:You know, a SCOTUS that ruled fully in favor of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... might actually save our country from the "fringes" (Liberal/Conservative) that have hijacked her. If not, well, there is all\ways the American citizen and patriot, waiting in the wings.
Quote:For in war just as in loving you must keep on shoving Or you'll never get your reward. For if you are dilatory in the search for lust or glory You are up shitcreek and that's the truth, Oh, Lord. So let us do real fighting, boring in and gouging, biting. Let's take a chance now that we have the ball. Let's forget those fine firm bases in the dreary shell raked spaces, Let's shoot the works and win! Yes win it all.
Quote:The more I see of Arabs the less I think of them. By having studied them a good deal I have found out the trouble. They are the mixture of all the bad races on earth, and they get worse from west to east, because the eastern ones have had more crosses. ______________ Some goddamn fool once said that flanks have got to be secure. Since then sonofabitches all over the globe have been guarding their flanks. I don't agree with that. My flanks are something for the enemy to worry about, not me. Before he finds out where my flanks are, I'll be cutting the bastard's throat. _______________ The difficulty in understanding the Russians is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk. ________________ You can't run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn't fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. ... As for the types of comments I make, sometimes I just, By God, get carried away with my own eloquence. _________________ We entered a synagogue which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. Either these Displaced Persons never had any sense of decency or else they lost it all during their period of interment by the Germans…. My personal opinion is that no people could have sunk to the level of degradation these have reached in the short space of four years. _________________ Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. _________________ Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American. _________________ An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse shit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking!
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Monday, January 25, 2010 6:49 PM
TWO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, January 25, 2010 7:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: "It's perfect, IF you're an arrogant asshole." Well, duh.
Quote: eta: and kind of applies to a lot of people on this board..
Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Frankly, Jongs, I'd rather talk with you than Wulfie. You've shown a capacity to learn and grow!
Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:05 AM
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:54 AM
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:21 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:The man was a fanatic totally divorced from reality; he lived in the black and white he wouldn't last wo seconds in the real world today.
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Quote:The man was a fanatic totally divorced from reality; he lived in the black and white he wouldn't last wo seconds in the real world today. I think this was even what the end moral of the movie was. Which I've seen, mostly because my dad gets such a kick out of it. It's an interesting character study of a very eccentric character, who, admittedly, did have a pretty funny dark sense of humour. Some of his quotes are pretty amusing, and that profanity quote is one of them. But admirable? No, not really. Think I might send him a link to the wikipedia article on that bonus march though, I want to make sure there's no admiration on HIS side either, and he has been a bit annoyingly contrary lately. He disagreed with me that we've done a lot of damage to Haiti prior to the Earthquake, and he even KNEW about Papa Doc. He says that I'm harsh on America's mistakes as if that's a BAD thing.
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:46 PM
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