Quote:

---

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Littlebird:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by pizmobeach:


Jongs - optimistic? Are you nuts?! You gotta give people something that they can bitch and moan about. This is why The Jongsie Evening News would be last in ratings, while WulfTV would run away with first.

---

I think I am about done with RWED. I am to frakin' sensitive. not a good match. I was standing up to some pretty virulent hatred and then the implication of bitching and moaning.

Also, optimism is good and it's good to hope. I just don't happen to agree that the economy is getting better. I'm plenty optimistic in other areas.

That is all.

---

The RWED has evolved much in recent times. It is actually much better now in terms of civility and content. You may not be able to see that, being relatively new here, but it is. For one thing, there are far far less participants here every day, so your words have greater meaning now than in the past. Sometimes folks here will just ignore you, sometimes agree, and sometimes challenge what you write. The degree of nastiness and ideological blindness has lessened. If you want to get something out of this forum you have to be able to give AND take. I came on board a few years ago as a pure 100% ideologue. So did others. Some have dropped out because they could not handle other's opinions or criticism, and some have stuck with it. Why, you may ask? I've asked that myself many times over the years, especially at times when I perhaps was raked over the coals, insulted, mocked, scoffed, and be-bopped. I stay and persevere because it's fun and informative. There are very few avenues of communication out there where Conservatives AND Liberals can engage each other directly. Usually, other sites are geared towards one or the other, and the blogs just reflect the unity of the group's common beliefs. Pretty boring if you ask me. Here, everything is discussed and debated. I like that. People that have endured here and that have my respect are people that are not afraid to occasionally admit that they may have been wrong about something.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Niki2:

I dislike PN strongly, mostly because his posts are so incredibly "out there" most of the time, and filled unilaterally with hate, anger, racism and fantasy. It offends me. So I'm resentful when I think about him, which isn't often, or I have to scroll past one of his posts.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Yanno, Wulfie-childe... was I you, I'd be a little more polite to the folk who are likely to be your only decent food supply if things ever do go all pear shaped.

And before you even countenance the thought you've not the courage to give voice to - remember that while Hippies are not themselves violent, they have lots of friends who are.

Besides, if you hate them so much, then why don't you give back everything their blood and sorrow bought you, ya little punk - from the bill of rights, to the forty hour work week, almost every social advance you enjoy, everything that prevents you from being a complete corp-slave, was paid for in the blood of those Anarcho-Liberal-Commie-Hippie types you hate so very much, and yet you while enjoying the benefits that they sacrificed so much to bring you, there you are cuddling up to the fuckers who slaughtered em in droves trying to prevent it, and pointing fingers.

Hypocrite.

-F

---

Quote:

---

...probably on the payroll of Hussein Obama, since "she" didn't materialize until the Hussein Regime CHANGE.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Niki2:
Little, you have voiced everything positive I found here too, and you're right, they DO rock!

Frem: Pissed off some? A bit more vociferous than usual, it seems...

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Quote:

---

...probably on the payroll of Hussein Obama, since "she" didn't materialize until the Hussein Regime CHANGE.

---

I'd note for the record that YOU joined during the Bush years. What's that say about who YOUR sugardaddy is?

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by piratenews:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Quote:

---

...probably on the payroll of Hussein Obama, since "she" didn't materialize until the Hussein Regime CHANGE.

---

I'd note for the record that YOU joined during the Bush years. What's that say about who YOUR sugardaddy is?

---

FF was born during the 2nd Bush Regime... Doh!

---

Quote:

---

No post showed up Mike--but I found what you said interesting.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Niki2:
Really, Frem, I didn't know that. I know the concept of "it takes a village" was affirmed by the (good) communes, but I wasn't involved in that and the other "heads" I knew were in my college years. I was out of it by the mid-seventies, which I don't consider "hippie years" anyway. By then it was a dark movement; for me the sixties were the only real "Flower Child Years".

I spent a lot of time in SF during those years, and most of it in the Haight--which also became a lot darker into the 70s; more runaways, more drugs, the Doors had a large hand in darkening it, and I didn't hang around much by then. Given most of the people I actually stayed with up there were gay, I didn't get much chance to know how people were dealing with children, and my interaction with the communes I knew was only occasionally. I lived in "communal houses" during my years (young people sharing a large house), and socialized in others. Those changed population pretty frequently, none of which involved kids. It's nice to hear, tho'.

I find the same dichotomy you do (and idiocy), things like Reagan being put on a pedastal for his "wise" policies, which is such a joke it makes me spew every time I hear it. This goes back to the thread about why people vote against their own interests, to me, because we Americans do seem to have a love affair with our actors and charistmatic and/or-good looking politicians, not looking past the surface to see the actual QUALITY of the candidate. Sigh...

"Yes" to not the sharpest pencils in the box, but I put it down as much to youth, naivete and doing something brand new for the first time...mistakes are bound to happen, people end up doing the wrong thing for the right reasons, and the learning curve, etc. The people I knew were bright as a whip, but like here, they had all kinds of good ideas, some of which weren't workable in practice. We sure solved all the problems of the world in the middle of the night, tho'! They were the years of psychedellics, I knew few who did the hard stuff...after the seventies, more of that happened.

As to Wulf, I often thought when I read your defense of him and your efforts to get through that ; I am sad for you and him that it was fruitless...it would have been really great to have seen you succeed, even in a small way. Oh, well... But you certainly educate those of us who ARE listening!

No post showed up Mike--but I found what you said interesting.

---