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Plane crashes into IRS building in Austin, Texas
Friday, February 19, 2010 4:42 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Kwick, Its really simple. No outsider fucks with us.
Friday, February 19, 2010 4:46 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, February 19, 2010 4:49 AM
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Friday, February 19, 2010 4:55 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Well... within the law... go to your Congressperson... take out ads in the paper... look for an organization to help you protect your rights.... hold a single-person (or, if you're lucky, multi-person) demonstration... counter sue...
Friday, February 19, 2010 6:11 AM
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Friday, February 19, 2010 6:22 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, February 19, 2010 6:40 AM
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Friday, February 19, 2010 6:54 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Friday, February 19, 2010 6:59 AM
Quote:I know I don't think conservatives need to point the finger but people have been constantly calling this guy a "tea bagger" when they ignore that he quoted KARL MARX, Bashed GW Bush, etc! He's a LIBERAL!
Friday, February 19, 2010 7:16 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: There's nothing to debate here...the guy was a fucking psychopath. Lots of delusional people out there like him that think they're "entitled" to something, or that they've been "wronged" by something or someone. Normal people suck it up and move on; demented maniacs seek revenge, which often includes killing innocents they deem responsible for their particular plight.
Quote:"I didn't shoot nobody no Sir! I'm just a patsy!" -Lee Harvey Oswald, US Naval Intelligence, USMC, Operation Mongoose in Operation Northwoods (murdered in jail 1 day later by kosher mobster strip-club owner Jacob Rubenstein) "If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.” —President George H. W. Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, conversation with US Army Intelligence agent and White House press corps Sarah McClendon, December 1992 Disgraced 9/11 Inside Job ‘hero’: Kosher NYPD Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/nyregion/19kerik.html "The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous." -Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm "The goal has never been to get Bin Laden." —General Richard Myers, chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff http://www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth "9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” —FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006 http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.” —Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ http://www.serendipity.li/wot/obl_int.htm "We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming." —Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html
Friday, February 19, 2010 7:43 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Doesn't make him a hero, and I refuse to call him a villain...,
Friday, February 19, 2010 7:51 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Friday, February 19, 2010 8:02 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Ok, Ive posted almost 6 times now... but they are not seeming to get thru... why is that?
Friday, February 19, 2010 8:14 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 8:43 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 8:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Not kidding here. Ive posted a couple of times, (long diatribes, Im sure) that were NOT posted. This is pissing me off.
Friday, February 19, 2010 9:03 AM
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Friday, February 19, 2010 9:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Majority of Americans support attacking IRS with violence:
Friday, February 19, 2010 9:35 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Yeah, a huge number of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, too. Hell, a huge number of Americans support American Idol and FauxSnooze - doesn't make 'em right! IRS doesn't write the tax law; they just enforce it and collect the money that CONGRESS orders them to.
Quote:"All laws repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." -US Supreme Court, Marbury v Madison
Friday, February 19, 2010 10:06 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: I Don't Buy the Official Story of Joe Stack
Friday, February 19, 2010 10:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: I Don't Buy the Official Story of Joe Stack Piratenews.... seeing a conspiracy cover-up! Oh My God.... I NEVER expected that.
Friday, February 19, 2010 10:32 AM
Friday, February 19, 2010 11:26 AM
TRAVELER
Friday, February 19, 2010 12:13 PM
Friday, February 19, 2010 12:33 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Friday, February 19, 2010 1:17 PM
Quote:all the little bear traps around your ankles you get from listening to the petty little lies held out like a carrot to keep you running on the hamster wheel and enriching the elite, you'll get there someday...
Friday, February 19, 2010 2:30 PM
Quote:1965 CHEROKEE 180 C - PARTNERSHIP $3,500 http://www.findaplane.com/viewads.php?ads_id=10219&mainmenu_id=1&submenu_id=43 1968 PIPER CHEROKEE 140 $14,000.00 US-VA N6785J http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale/Piper_Cherokee/119/page-1.htm
Friday, February 19, 2010 3:52 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: piratenews wrote: Friday, February 19, 2010 14:30 Anyone can afford a Piper Cherokee. A pre-owned Cherokee can be had for less than $10,000
Friday, February 19, 2010 4:59 PM
Quote:A pre-owned Cherokee can be had for less than $10,000.
Friday, February 19, 2010 5:15 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Friday, February 19, 2010 5:26 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I've heard folks say how " inexpensive " planes are. Which is true. But add in the cost of a pilots license, hours of flight training, hanger fees, airplane fuel, .... pretty soon, you're talking about a fair chunk of change.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "CAN" be, very rarely I'd guess. Hell, I know of a '97 Aston Martin Volante that was traded in for $4000 in the Cash for Clunkers program. Doesn't mean you're commonly going to find them going for that money. A '97 Bentley Continental Turbo R fetched $4000 and a trip to the crusher, too.
Friday, February 19, 2010 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Dude, if your going to kamikaze a US government building... rent it rent it rent it Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers. What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"
Friday, February 19, 2010 5:53 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Epic.
Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:22 AM
Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:07 AM
Quote:“There is no patriotic duty to pay taxes.” -Commissioner of Internal Revenue Service v Newman 159 F2d 848,850 (1947) "Not one dime of income taxes goes to support any federal program." -President Ronald Reagan, right before George Bushes' CIA cousin John Hinkley Jr shot him (released from loonybin by George Bush Jr and Hussein Obama Soetoro) "The Sixteenth Amendment does not purport to confer power to levy income taxes in a generic sense, as that authority was already possessed, or to limit and distinguish between one kind of income tax and another, but its purpose is to relieve all income taxes when imposed from apportionment from consideration of the source whence the income is derived." -US Supreme Court, Brushaber v. Union Pacific R. Co., 240 U.S. 1 (1916) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brushaber_v._Union_Pacific_Railroad "A federal jury Friday found FedEx pilot Vernice Kuglin not guilty of evading income taxes on $920,000. The question of tax payment was unresolved at the end of the five-day trial. 'I think it is safe to assume the IRS will attempt civil collection, but she is not guilty of tax evasion,' said defense attorney Robert Bernhoft of Milwaukee. 'I feel justified,' a grinning Kuglin said after the verdict was returned at mid--afternoon. She stood outside the federal building, chatting with supporters and jurors. Federal prosecutor Joe Murphy was not available for comment. Kuglin, 58, was charged with six counts of tax evasion that could have meant up to 30 years in prison and $1.5 million in fines. Defense attorney Larry Becraft of Huntsville, Ala., said Kuglin decided mandatory payment of income taxes 'did not apply to her'. Juror Barbara Snodgras of Memphis said the jury did not convict because 'we all felt that the prosecution didn't prove its case.'" -We The People Foundation, "IRS Loses A Big One, Memphis Pilot Acquitted Of Tax Evasion", 8-9-03 Charged With Filing "False" W-4s http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update08-09-03.htm "There is no authority for a central bank. Ben Bernanke is the greatest counterfeiter the world has ever seen! Adolf Hitler was Time's Man of the Year too." -Congressman Ron Paul "Plaintiff, who was injured by vehicle owned and operated by a federal reserve bank, brought action alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Claims Act. The United States District Court for the Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., dismissed holding that federal reserve bank was not a federal agency within meaning of Act and that the court therefore lacked subject-matter jurisdiction. Appeal was taken. The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." -United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit, No. 80-5905, Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982) http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/frcourt.html "The banks have shown that they can't be trusted with the American economy. That's generally been the case, but now it's out in the open, $350-billion later [sic $27-trillion]. In 1913 the money power fo the country was taken away from the People, by Constitutional privilege it belongs to the Congress, but it was given up in the Federal Reserve Act. The Federal Reserve is no more 'federal' than Federal Express! Yet it has the power to determine the direction and use of money in our economy. If we could take that power back, and put Federal Reserve under Treasury, we start to be in a position of being able to control monetary policy on behalf of the United States people. We also have to address the issue of the fractional reserve system, which is how banks create money out of thin air. As they do that they've created the conditions where we have a Ponzi scheme collapsing of banks and the hedge funds together. We have to end the fractional reserve system." -Congressman Dennis Kucinich
Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:A pre-owned Cherokee can be had for less than $10,000. "CAN" be, very rarely I'd guess. Hell, I know of a '97 Aston Martin Volante that was traded in for $4000 in the Cash for Clunkers program. Doesn't mean you're commonly going to find them going for that money. A '97 Bentley Continental Turbo R fetched $4000 and a trip to the crusher, too. Looks like the average Cherokee is going for somewhere north of $30k. And then there's the fees, and the fees, and then more fees...
Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:43 AM
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:39 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: ...Relevant to the topic are these two bits I wanted to share, firstly one from Lew Rockwell, which despite their usual more conservative bent, takes almost the same tack I did, only they push MORE in the direction of community collectivism as a response to it. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/whitehead8.1.1.html That took me a little aback, it did - when you got the Left and the Right mostly sayin the same things while mutually giving the finger to the established order, I think the powers that be are soon to be done for. ...Anyhows, relevant to the topic, especially since a side discussion about economic and asymmetrical warfare seems to also be going on in several threads.... Just one decade shy of a hundred years, and how little has changed - from Budas wagon meant for J.P. Morgan (we knew THEN, this was comin, and no one listened), to a plane meant for the IRS... Although more people actually willing to call it for what it is, a game, a scam, and a lifelong setup, gives me some hope that the wheel may turn in my lifetime after all - and damn, that'd be both interesting and satisfying. -F
Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:25 PM
LITTLEBIRD
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Ooo, this is too much fun (it's Cafe Press; they've got hundreds of them): Ah-HAH! I found the PERFECT one for PN: ...or we could make him our own: Here's one just for Wulfie: (or do you think he'll be offended by the pink t-shirt? Sadly, what's really true (tho' telling PN will do no good, 'cuz he won't believe it): Now, what I want to ask, from wandering among them, is what are "chemtrails" and what's with tomatoes? Betcha PN could tell me...
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