Interested to see what others think of this.[quote]It's the most effective and economical way to prepare troops for counterinsurgency operations. Traini..."/>
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Let India Train the Afghan Army
Friday, February 19, 2010 1:12 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:It's the most effective and economical way to prepare troops for counterinsurgency operations. Training the Afghan army is "the most critical part" of America's "long-term strategy" in the country, U.S. special envoy Richard Holbrooke said Monday. Pakistan agrees, and has suggested it can help, too. Yet the best candidate for the task is the Indian Army. This million-strong force has had close to 60 years' of intense counterinsurgency experience in a variety of terrains. Indian troops have successfully carried out campaigns in jungles in India's northeast, at high altitudes in Jammu and Kashmir and in the plains in the Punjab. Its officers and enlisted men have counterinsurgency experience in both urban and rural environments. India already has the capacity to impart this knowledge to friendly forces. The country boasts one of the world's largest military training establishments, with the ability to train officers and men for varying combat duties. Educational facilities include a major counterinsurgency training base—the Counterinsurgency and Jungle Warfare School—and a school focused on urban warfare in the state of Jammu and Kashmir, the site of an ongoing insurgency. Both can simulate a variety of combat situations and provide the Afghan Army with training relevant to the terrain and physical conditions that its troops are likely to encounter upon deployment. India's counterinsurgency schools also come complete with firing ranges, obstacle courses and training areas for the detection and handling of improvised explosive devices. Beyond such infrastructure, however, the Indian Army has at its command significant accumulated knowledge of counterinsurgency operations and techniques. Its substantial cadre of instructors have ample field experience and routinely train India's forces in counterinsurgency operations. The Indian military has formulated a viable, codified doctrine to fight counterinsurgency. This doctrine calls for important restraints on the use of force, highlights the significance of not alienating civilian populations, insists upon respect for local customs and emphasizes the importance of an eventual political solution to all insurgencies. These principles are routinely stressed in the curricula of the counterinsurgency schools and applied to the best extent possible in field operations. There is little reason to believe that within a specified span of time they could not be inculcated into the Afghan Army too. Finally, thanks to some setbacks over the years, most notably in its operations in Sri Lanka and subsequently in Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian Army has taken heed of and learned a great deal from its past errors. Its leadership has undertaken a number of organizational innovations to best cope with counterinsurgency operations. Since 1990, for instance, India has fielded a contingent called the Rashtriya Rifles (literally "National Rifles"), forces with an optimal "teeth to tail" ratio, specifically trained in counterinsurgency operations. These units, drawn from the regular Indian Army, have proven especially effective when deployed in Jammu and Kashmir and have managed to restore more than a modicum of order in the state. The Indian Army has other advantages, too. Thanks to its cheap labor costs, it can train Afghan forces at a fraction of the costs of training them in similar duties almost anywhere in the United States or Western Europe. Rank and file Afghan soldiers would feel much more at ease in India than in most other parts of the world. India has cultural bonds with Afghanistan of very long standing and Afghans have over centuries traveled to various parts of northern India. Finally, critics of the Indian Army's counterinsurgency operations notwithstanding, its forces have learned to operate within the scope of the rule of law. Many officers who have exceeded their brief have been subject to court-martial and charges of human-rights violations are not swept under the carpet. If training the Afghan Army is as important as the U.S.-led coalition says it is, then why not accelerate training in the place that's best served to do it? Not turning to India would amount to a grave strategic error.
Friday, February 19, 2010 3:18 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Friday, February 19, 2010 3:46 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:08 AM
Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:52 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: (Don't tell anyone, but I posted it mostly because of how idiotic the idea is. But you guys caught on...damn!)
Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:50 PM
Quote:I notice that many of your posts are like that--idiotic !
Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:53 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: You can count on many of us to consistently notice , and see the fallacious 'logic' at work in the core of your posts...
Saturday, February 20, 2010 1:42 PM
TRAVELER
Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by traveler: I often play devils advocate. It gets ideas and blood flowing. It would be nice if some of the other Islamic nations gave a hand. It is their region of the world after all. http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731 Traveler
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by traveler: It has been so bad and for such a long time in Israel that I wonder if any course will settle their mutual hatred. It has been some time since I saw the footage, but one news agency filmed an Israelie firing indiscriminately into a group of Palestinians that were just going about their daily lives. No demonstrations or riots going on. Actions like that and the treatment in Gaza tells me Israel has a long way to go. This goes back decades, so we are talking generations of hate. But I am not telling you nothing new. I am just letting off some steam. http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731 Traveler
Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:08 PM
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Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Hmm Gino, in your calmer moments you seem to support a 2-state solution, and trust the UN to not just be an instrument of US foreign policy. I'm not so sure of Hamas etc. being so willing to demilitarise, allow foreign troops to provide security (Turkish or other muslim troops maybe... if we're being optimistic) and generally call an end to their jihad to wipe Israel off the map. Even after a fair peace deal is agreed and implemented the middle-east's radical Islamist streak (the Palestinian people's biggest tragedy) will continue to pose a threat to Israel's security for generations to come. This is just the reality - Israel does a lot to anger the muslim world but right at the heart of this anger I think is muslim irritation at Israel's mere existence. But apart from that our dreams on this issue are not so different. As soon as a viable, independent Palestinian state is formed, and is seen to flourish next to Israel (with international help as you say), the whole of the Islamic world can cool down and become more moderate. Heads should roll
Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:46 AM
Quote:Niki, when did you acquire a 13 year old boy enemy?
Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:50 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Quote:Niki, when did you acquire a 13 year old boy enemy?What 13-year-old boy? I heard the sound of some spitting, but it resembled an overheated radiator...other than that, I didn't hear anything. There USED to be a guy called O2B here who really disliked me, I know, but I think he vanished with the Wind...dunno.
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