Call now: DO IT!! by Niki2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Penguin and Pizmo put up these replies before I edited this into a proper post, in case anyone's confused!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:15 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

No one is confused...

Excepting you , of course !

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:18 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Penguin and Pizmo put up these replies before I edited this into a proper post, in case anyone's confused!

Huzzzah to the new First Post! Much better - by all means call, visit the linked site and add your name.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:32 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Hey, I got through...it was easier to get through to their local office, if anyone wants to know. I know it's a long-distance call, and so many are calling in some places that you can't get through. I see some states only have a few people calling, but in CA it's tough--last I looked 212 were calling!

So I was able to get through to both local offices, and I just got through to Boxer's Washington office, to learn she HAS SIGNED the letter on public option/reconcilliation!!! I called and e-mailed asking why she hadn't yet signed; tickled pink to hear she finally got on the bandwagon!

Feinstein, of course, was on there early, so MY state is covered...how about YOURS?

It's fascinating to watch for a few seconds...they have a little map that shows who's calling at that moment (or so); you can see it coming in from all over the nation. Huzzah! Maybe, just MAYBE, we can be heard?

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:53 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I faxed, I called, AND I wrote!

to private insurance companies!

They're the PROBLEM, not the solution!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:27 AM

LITTLEBIRD

Done!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:30 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
No one is confused...

Excepting you , of course !

Well, YOU seem VERY confused, Out2Lunch. You have this notion that you've schooled anyone here on anything - a notion which you've utterly and completely failed to back up with ANY evidence.

Whip out that radar expertise, boy! Where's that "proof" of how I tried to have you banned?

And why do you run away every single time I bring it up?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:19 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Sig, does it do any good to contact the insurance companies? They don't give a shit, and they're not in the public eye the way the legislators are. This movement will get media, I'll bet, and hey, we're allowed to hope!

We just crossed the 1 million threshhold, and man, those numbers are whizzing by! Gawd bless the internet; this is almost kind of exciting. The little map which tells you who got through can't seem to keep up. It's kinda fun when I check in on it, that little "so-and-so called", "so-and-so called and faxed" map jumps around like crazy...it's especially fun to watch it bounce from CA to NY, all the way across the country!

To my disgust, I haven't been able to get through to DiFi's Washington office...think she chickened out and just let it give a busy signal. Bitch; but I got local and Washington offices for Boxer and local for DiFi...

C'mon, folks, do your bit; if we got a public option, that would solve 99% of the problems just because of competition!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

My 2 senators are going to vote down Obamacare, no matter what. So we're solid.

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first.

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:26 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I got thru to DiFi's office... she has SIGNED the resolution!

It was that 42% (GASP!) rate increase by HealthNet that pushed her over the edge!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:53 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yeah, Sig, I knew that--she signed in VERY early, one of the original ten or so I think. That's why I was pissed at Boxer, I wanted her on board! I forgot, are you one of our LaLaLanders?

Interesting: Not a peep out of either of the Dakotas, Mississippi or Vermont. I could say something about literacy or internet use, but I'll refrain...but why not Vermont, I wonder?

California has been running hottest since I first tuned in, with New York, Washington (the state), Texas and Oregon running second almost all the time. Ahhh, those ahead-of-the-curve folk...or do we just have more to lose??

I can't stay forever; if anyone would be so kind as to bump this if it gets too far down, that would be fantastic. Thanx.

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:01 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:
No one is confused...

Excepting you , of course !

Well, YOU seem VERY confused, Out2Lunch. You have this notion that you've schooled anyone here on anything - a notion which you've utterly and completely failed to back up with ANY evidence.

Whip out that radar expertise, boy! Where's that "proof" of how I tried to have you banned?

And why do you run away every single time I bring it up?

Well , Squick , apart from being willfully ignorant , you also seem to have a very SHORT memory...Goes right along with your temper , which does seem to make you
" Officially the Angriest 'Man' on the Internet™ "...

You voted ScamBO , he's your 'boy' , and the two of you are still acting in league to suppress Free Speech via Executive Orders to take control of the Internet ; also via the appointed 'Czar' Cass Sunstein , who considers any speech the Government (and Kwicko) do not agree with to be a 'Conspiracy Theory'...

http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/should-obama-control-internet

You've been taken to school many times , most recently over your assertion that your local Doppler weather radars are able to 'see' for hundreds of miles , despite the line-of-sight limitations of other terrestrial radars...Then there was the matter of you claiming Mal's pistol to be based on a LeMat , and when you were 'schooled' on that , you skated away from that responsibility by claiming that it was what you'd 'heard' ? Not into checking facts , are you ? Very into repeating counterfactual notions though , aren't you ?

One would think that would be an embarrassment for you , but being that you're clearly uneducable , and likely mentally and emotionally retarded , you take one's lack of torment of you to be 'running away' from you...

Are you self-important much , Squick ?

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:05 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

It's pretty pathetic when you have to resort to lying to prove our point.

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:06 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Call your Senators to ask for real health care reform.
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/

Join the virtual march for a public option

http://pol.moveon.org/virtualmarch10/action.html?rc=homepage

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:09 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by rue:
It's pretty pathetic when you have to resort to lying to prove our point.

Don't lie then...The government wants a monopoly on that , too !

Rue's another one claiming a govt.-sponsored career in science , but makes nothing but nonsensical dogmatic claims , at best , and doesn't exhibit a scientific mind in search of Facts , at all...

Maintains the fantasy that ' Everything is A-OK ' , though , so long as the tide is trending their own way...

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:36 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Call your Senators to ask for real health care reform.
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/

Join the virtual march for a public option

http://pol.moveon.org/virtualmarch10/action.html?rc=

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:41 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!

1,124,457 Voices for Real Health Care Reform!

KEEP FAXING, CALLING, AND EMAILING!

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:47 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

OTB

Here's the thread about radar. http://fireflyfan.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=41552#755847

Now, show me where anyone says local radar REACHES hundreds of miles.

Go boy ! Fetch !

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:50 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Well, I'm not sure if they're still collecting emails to fax. The count stopped at WHOOOO HOOOO!

1,124,457 !

But here's the link just in case you can still join in:

http://pol.moveon.org/virtualmarch10/action.html

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:25 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:
No one is confused...

Excepting you , of course !

Well, YOU seem VERY confused, Out2Lunch. You have this notion that you've schooled anyone here on anything - a notion which you've utterly and completely failed to back up with ANY evidence.

Whip out that radar expertise, boy! Where's that "proof" of how I tried to have you banned?

And why do you run away every single time I bring it up?

Well , Squick , apart from being willfully ignorant , you also seem to have a very SHORT memory...Goes right along with your temper , which does seem to make you
" Officially the Angriest 'Man' on the Internet™ "...

You voted ScamBO , he's your 'boy' , and the two of you are still acting in league to suppress Free Speech via Executive Orders to take control of the Internet ; also via the appointed 'Czar' Cass Sunstein , who considers any speech the Government (and Kwicko) do not agree with to be a 'Conspiracy Theory'...

Wow, that's quite a stretch for such a tiny little fella like yourself, Outie. That's your "proof" that *I* personally tried to have you banned from THIS particular site, eh? Because I'm that high up in Obama's administration, and I have that much pull with him? That's where you want to reach on that one? Really?

Man, I'll have whatever you're smokin', son, 'cause that shit is HIGH-larious.

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You've been taken to school many times , most recently over your assertion that your local Doppler weather radars are able to 'see' for hundreds of miles , despite the line-of-sight limitations of other terrestrial radars...Then there was the matter of you claiming Mal's pistol to be based on a LeMat , and when you were 'schooled' on that , you skated away from that responsibility by claiming that it was what you'd 'heard' ? Not into checking facts , are you ? Very into repeating counterfactual notions though , aren't you ?

I've been "taken to school" many times, it's true - but never by you. Not even once.

Here's the thread about radar. Last we looked, Mal4Prez had quite effectively schooled YOU about wave propagation, and we were all waiting for your erudite, expert response. That was over two weeks ago, and you haven't been seen anywhere near that thread since, despite your own self-professed expertise in such matters.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=41552&m=757337#757337

And here's the thread about Mal's gun. Note where I was corrected about the Lemat being JAYNE'S sidearm, not Mal's, and my thanks for the correction. Note also your utter and complete absence of even being IN that thread, much less "schooling" anyone in any way, shape, or form. But we're all used to you taking credit for the things you're incapable of. It's old hat around here. Or were you posting as someone else?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=41709

And then let's get back to all those threads where you supposedly had "proof" that I tried to have you banned from this site. Remember, YOU said *I* personally tried to have YOU specifically banned FROM THIS SITE. That was YOUR claim, in YOUR words. Now you're playing the chickenshit "but you're from the government, so you must want to censor the whole interwebs" card, which would be laughable if one single element of it were anywhere near true.

But let's pull up those old threads and just have a look, shall we?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40039

http://www.fireflyfan.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=34664

http://168.215.229.9/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35632

So while I may have been "schooled" before, as I've pointed out and shown, it was NEVER by you. But that's not what you claimed just yesterday, is it?

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Yeah , gotta drive the slow kids back home aboard their short bus...

Squick forgets about how many times Out2theBlack has taken him to school...

That WAS you posting that, right? That was YOU claiming to have schooled me, right?

One really would think that all that would be a huge embarrassment for you. But since you already seem to know EVERYTHING, you already know you've been made an even bigger ass, once again, if such a thing were even possible.

How'd that operation go, Out2Lunch? Were they able to pull your head out of your ass, or was it impacted in there too deeply?

As for self-importance, aren't YOU the one who was claiming to bring "truth to them as need it told", who posts up images of himself as an archangel, and who claims to have a wealth of scientific knowledge and expertise, and then vanishes in a heartbeat when someone with REAL scientific background shows up?

Like I told you before, shrimp, you're not tall enough for this ride.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:49 PM

FREMDFIRMA

*feels a great disturbance in the force, like an echo of his own rage*

*blink*

HEY, get your own schtick, Mikey!

-F

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:59 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

*feels a great disturbance in the force, like an echo of his own rage*

*blink*

HEY, get your own schtick, Mikey!

-F

HAH! What can I say? I learned from the best!

And apologies for the threadjack.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:01 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yes, please, if you can take your argument elsewhere, that would be very nice. You don't have to respond to someone taunting you just for the attention/fun of it, you know (hint, hint). Y'know, nobody's interested but you two, and if they're like me, they're not even bothering to click on the links. Old material is old material, it's easy enough to judge for ourselves.

Would be nice if OTB would stop changing the thread title, too, tho' I realize that's too much to hope for. From YOU, Mike, I expect better!

Back to our normally-scheduled program:

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Well, I'm not sure if they're still collecting emails to fax. The count stopped at WHOOOO HOOOO!

1,124,457 !

But here's the link just in case you can still join in:

http://pol.moveon.org/virtualmarch10/action.html

Yes, they seem to have stopped the count, but the form still takes name, etc., to fax. There are still people calling, too, per the map.

Boxer was on TV tonight, and it was good to hear her push--tho' she's still giving the line they all are: "Getting nothing just because we can't get the public option is no good", or words to that effect.

I'm still hopeful, I can dream...

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Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:21 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Oh, after this there's more to do. Because not enough Senators will get on-board THIS bus. So the Senators who sign feel very safe from... yanno.. actually DOING anything, while the Senators who DON'T sign will point to the Repubs or Obama or anyplace else, and feel they can ride out the storm.

But PUSH PUSH PUSH!

Push specific Senators to sign the resolution.

Push specific Senators OUT of the Senate come 2010.

And push for California's plan.

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Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:25 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I agree. There are still people calling on that website, and the form is still there for people to sign up, but the counter has halted. Dunno what that means, but at least there are still people pushing.

What did I miss, Sig? What is "California's Plan"? I haven't tuned in the news yet today, can you update me, please?

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Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Senate votes to pass bill for health care

By Staff reports
Updated: 02/24/2010 09:34:54 PM PST

SACRAMENTO -- The California Senate voted 22 to 14 to pass Senate Bill 810, the California Universal Health Care Act. Authored by State Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) SB 810 would enact a system of comprehensive, universal health care for every Californian.

State Senator Pat Wiggins, one of the bill's co-authors, said the bill will head to the state assembly.

"If approved by both houses of the Legislature and signed into law by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, SB 810 would establish a single-payer' health care system to provide coverage to all 37 million Californians," Wiggins said.

www.record-bee.com/ci_14466886

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Friday, February 26, 2010 12:28 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

THE PEN

Action Page: http://www.peaceteam.net/action/pnum1034.php

This action page has the subject line, "A Forcible Mandate For Corporate Medical Insurance Means The END Of Your Political Career." It will send faxes for you just by submitting the form, you do not need a fax machine of your own.

As stalwart progressives, it was clear to us from that speech (five months ago), and we warned, that Obama had NO intention of letting a "public option" of any kind survive in the end. We told you that the so-called public option was never intended to be anything but a bait and switch to get gullible people of insufficient conviction and determination to give up working for true single payer.

...

Indeed, it is clear to all by now the degree that Obama is fighting AGAINST any alternative to a complete corporate takeover of health care. First they told us that we could not have anything even remotely in the ball park of single payer because we did not have 60 votes. And yet, even as they are gearing up to force through the most despised bill in American political history by some parliamentary trick that only needs 51 votes, suddenly they can't even muster THAT many for a real alternative.

President Obama was happy to selectively discuss today the various isolated selling point proposals that poll well. But these are just the most thin of sugar coatings on the most gigantic bitter pill the American people have ever been asked to swallow.

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Friday, February 26, 2010 12:33 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Ahhh yes - remember those dreams of single payer ? I had forgotten all about them. The public option was supposed to be the second-choice compromise.

Maybe you don't want to fax THEIR message. But you need to somehow get in touch with YOUR senators to let them know how you feel !

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Friday, February 26, 2010 1:22 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey, why should I stick with "my" Senators? Because yanno what? I can contribute... Oh, yes indeedy I can! ... to any progressive running against them in the primaries. 'Cause money crosses state lines, even if my vote doesn't.

And telling 'em so is just fair warning, in my book!

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Friday, February 26, 2010 3:02 PM

AURAPT0R

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Senate votes to pass bill for health care

By Staff reports
Updated: 02/24/2010 09:34:54 PM PST

SACRAMENTO -- The California Senate voted 22 to 14 to pass Senate Bill 810, the California Universal Health Care Act. Authored by State Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) SB 810 would enact a system of comprehensive, universal health care for every Californian.

State Senator Pat Wiggins, one of the bill's co-authors, said the bill will head to the state assembly.

"If approved by both houses of the Legislature and signed into law by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, SB 810 would establish a single-payer' health care system to provide coverage to all 37 million Californians," Wiggins said.

www.record-bee.com/ci_14466886

Will Federal Money Be Used for this ?

Does California have enough money to do this on their own ? I thought the state was broke?

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first.

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Friday, February 26, 2010 3:57 PM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Thanx, Sig, that's encouraging!

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Friday, February 26, 2010 4:38 PM