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Originally posted by antimason:
i cannot stand the network. Rachel Maddow? Olberman? Matthews? they are so far off people watch the cartoon network more often.

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i know im barkin up the wrong tree on this board, but i had to say it. the difference between Fox and NBC? Fox isnt pushing an agenda that forces us to participate!

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liberals are so caring, so compassionate... with other peoples tax dollars. as much as i disagree with neo-cons.. they dont pursue invasive wellfarism!

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im wat ching Rachel Maddow moch conservatives, because they want to spend the money they earn, as they choose... how dare they! they should be forced to give up their wealth!

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the arrogance it takes to claim to be righteously indignate, while pressuring others to give up their own earnings!? it defeats the entire principle of CHARITY! you know, that service that once existed before the federal GOVT marginalized charity... and took on the huminst authority to destribute other peoples wealth for them (against their will)?

just tired of this BS sanctimony that exists, any thoughts? i know there are..

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I happen to like Rachael Maddow. She's my home-girl.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

You're telling me that NONE of my tax dollars went towards bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? NONE? Seriously?

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Yeah, we were "forced to participate". Oh, and we were forced to participate when Bush more than quadrupled spending in Africa. Not saying that's a bad thing, but when he got all touchy-feelie about things, we were definitely forced to participate. To say otherwise is to show that you're either lying or ignorant. Which best describes you?

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Yes, where conservatives are so caring and "compassionate" when dropping bombs on other people - bombs paid for with OTHER PEOPLES' TAX DOLLARS! And nary a peep of protest from the right... So much for that whole "pro-life" label...

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Seems Maddow and Olbermann DO give quite a bit to charity, and encourage others to do the same. Maddow and her viewers banded together to fully outfit the Iraqi National Baseball team when she did a tiny story on them having zero equipment (none of your tax dollars were used for that). And Olbermann's proposal for free healthcare clinics in the neediest areas raised over $ 2.3 million dollars from viewers. Again, not a single one of your precious tax dollars was used.

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So what IS your real beef with MSNBC? Is it that they're exposing "The Family" and C-Street as the liars, cheats, and charlatans they truly are? Do you have a problem with someone outing a "church" where conservative congressmen live on subsidized artificially low rent?

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Originally posted by antimason:
ive seen it, i watched it when it first came out. i dont see it being any different then the monopoly over news networks that the liberal establishment, NBC/ABC/CBS had for decades. Foxs debut in the 90s just provided the republican party with a platform to propogandize. i mean.. what happened to Dan Rather? its not as if the other networks arent guilty of the same shinanigans

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arent you for redistribution of wealth? so what are you whining about, its the 'moral' thing to do.. you should be glad

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
beck v. maddow, thunderdome. awesome! screw the rhetoric, lets just make our arguments direct, perhaps even elemental!

not a fair fight. beck has proven that he is a crier, and can't take his licks. one shot, and he'll be weeping and crying and mumbling stuff about jesus. 'course, not sure that maddow could deliver a shot. still, i take maddow in this.

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Kwicko-

Oh, I was just wondering where all your righteous indignation was when it was the right-wing whackjobs handing out the peoples' money. You didn't seem to be upset when the Republicans thought they knew what was best for everybody. Why is that?

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Of course, I can't help but note that you never seemed upset at the record deficits run up under those same Republicans, time after time after time. In fact, Bush more than tripled the deficit on his way out of office, and the right spent more than a year trying to pin that money on Obama.

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Besides, you free marketeers are all for redistribution of wealth, too; you just don't like to admit it, or you call it by a different name. Only difference is, you want to redistribute all the wealth upward. That's what supply-side and trickle-down economic bullshit theories are. In the history of the world, wealth always, ALWAYS flows upwards.

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I hear conservatives quoting Thatcher a lot: "The problem with socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money." I'd say that's the same problem capitalism has as well.

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Every once in a while, things have to get reset a bit, and redistributed back down to the poor, because they immediately go out and BUY STUFF with the money, and it stimulates the entire economy as it trickles back up through the works. Give money to the rich, and it just stays at the top, and never trickles down.

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