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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:51 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America: People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice. Murdoch’s reach: US Network: 280 million people Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people Cable Channels: 300 million homes Magazines: 28 million people Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population) Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union: When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective. Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor: It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer: It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill. Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC: We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda Diana Winthrop: There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys. Frank O’Donnell: Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation. Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer: I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network.
Quote:Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term. Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected. _________________ (Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”) There are some who think John Kerry looks French... John Kerry looks French... Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President... When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model... Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour... French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image... ______________ Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor: Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it. (overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!) Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day... The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger... (overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long) The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1... And existing homes up 2%... The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment... ...the fact that the economy is improving... ...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates... ______________ Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected" ______________ (overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs) Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens... (Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.) The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years... (overlay: Labor Relief!) ...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign... (overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?) What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad... If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes. (overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?) John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead. (overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?) I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry. When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory. ...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time. _______________ Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush _______________ David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC: The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department. Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”: When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”: When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.
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KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, April 1, 2010 7:35 AM
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Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:20 PM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I said I would transcribe some of what's on the video "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Well, I took the time to transcribe the first few minutes and the last few minutes. It is made up mostly of quotes, both of former Fox News employees and quotes directly from Fox NEWS (remember that: Fox NEWS, not just commentators). If you take the time to read it, I dare you to tell me Fox is all about "fair and balanced": Quote:David Brock, CEO/Media Matters for America: People are faced with critical choices about the future of the country when they go into the voting booth. I go in, and I have been, through the course of the campaign cycle, subject to false, distorted caricaturing, and I may not even know where it’s coming from because often there’s an echo effect off places like cable and radio and those wrong pieces of information are repeated and repeated; by the time it reaches me I don’t even know what the source was. This is the environment and it’s fundamentally undermining democracy, which is based on knowing some good and solid information so I can make an informed choice. Murdoch’s reach: US Network: 280 million people Asia Satellite Network: 300 million people Cable Channels: 300 million homes Magazines: 28 million people Total: 4.7 billion people (3/4 of world's population) Gene Kimmelman; Senior Director of the Public Policy & Advocacy Consumers Union: When you see the properties Rupert Murdoch owns around the world, the strong conservative view those properties reflect, it’s different than ABC or CBS or NBC. Sure, they reflect a point of view, but not nearly as strong and not nearly as consistently from one ideological perspective. Larry Johnson; Former Fox News Contributor: It was made very clear to us that we were being monitored, and if someone wasn’t doing it live, they were at least recording it and they would review it after the fact to see what we did I’ve heard former employees, as well as bookers, express reservations, almost as if they’re being monitored by a Stalinist system, afraid to be seen talking to the wrong person or having the wrong kind of e-mail exchange Diana Winthrop; Former Fox News Producer: It was clear during those years that Murdoch, who had absolutely adored Ronald Reagan, adored him, had a lt of admiration for the group of Republicans who controlled Congress, and certainly on Capitol Hill. Frank O’Donnell, Former Fox News Producer, Washington DC: We received an order from one of Murdoch’s apparatchiks, if you will, that we should cut away from our newscasts and start carrying a fawning tribute to Ronald Reagan that was airing at the Republican Convention. We were stunned, because up until that point we were allowed to do legitimate news, and suddenly we were ordered from the top to start carrying propaganda, carrying Republican right-wing propaganda Diana Winthrop: There was a cultural underpinning to what Murdoch wanted: race issues, AIDS—I constantly remember complaints that there was too much being done on AIDS. He also couldn’t stand the Kennedys. Frank O’Donnell: Ted Kennedy was a long-time opponent of Rupert Murdoch, and one celebrated occasion we were ordered to run a long, uncut piece from A Current Affair that was rehashing the whole matter of Chappaquiddick. It had zero news value; we were told “you have to run this thing uncut”. You could not even edit it down and just run a snippet of it. I think they evolved, in later years, especially after Roger Ailes took over and really got the Fox News Channel up and running, into a far more sophisticated operation. Clara Frenk, Former Fox News Producer: I’d been warned by a number of people who pulled me aside and said look, you know, I know that you want to work and I know you need a job, but you might want to think twice about taking this job, because really it is a very Conservative news network. Remember those remarks about "repeated and repeated"? Here are some examples from Fox News: Quote:Hannity: 263 days until you get to cast your vote and decide George Bush deserves a second term. Hannity: 217 days and counting until George Bush is re-elected. _________________ (Overlay: “Big Story: The French Connection”) There are some who think John Kerry looks French... John Kerry looks French... Kerry, the man who would be America’s first French President... When you’re at war, you have two models, the Churchill, Reagan, Thatcher, Tony Blair, George Bush model, or you have the McGovern, Jimmy Carter, French John Kerry model... Good afternoon everybody, or as John Kerry would say, bonjour... French are thinkers, and that doesn’t go into the American Presidency, I mean they think and they think and they think, and they never do anything with their thinking. I believe Mr. Kerry has to get away from this image... ______________ Jeff Cohen; Former MSNBC/Fox News Contributor: Every week, there are so many different ways you can play the economic story. At Fox News, it’s only the upbeat. They select statistics that prove the economy is moving up, and thank God for President Bush for doig it. (overlay: President Bush and 2 million Jobs!) Murdoch: We’re all amazed at the strength of the economy and how it’s picking up day by day... The economy is very, very strong right now, and it continues to get stronger... (overlay: Job Picture Should Brighten Before Long) The latest reading on the nations gross domestic product confirming it rose at a healthy 4.1... And existing homes up 2%... The economy is behaving like it’s on steroids at the moment... ...the fact that the economy is improving... ...low roar in ’04 and every sign indicates... ______________ Hannity: "204 days until George Bush is re-elected" ______________ (overlay: Free Trade Creates American Jobs) Bush: We’re creating jobs, good, high-paying jobs for the American citizens... (Text of Fox Memo: The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week, he can boast his policy is working.) The economy grew last month at the fastest rate in four years... (overlay: Labor Relief!) ...with the news this month the economy grew, 408 thousand jobs were created last month, they’re drinking the Malox out of the gallon bucket at the Kerry campaign... (overlay: Kerry: Jobs Killer?) What this plan will do is punish successful companies, and that’s bad... If you want to destroy jobs in this country, you raise taxes. (overlay: John Kerry: Disaster for the Stock Market?) John Kerry is planning to bring millions of jobs back to America. Well, someone says watch out, Kerry’s plan will end up killing more jobs instead. (overlay: Stock Smarts—Tax the Rich?) I said previously that the market was neutral on John Kerry. I think that was utterly wrong, I think the market is DOWN on John Kerry. When the market goes down, one of the things you often hear is the market is worried about a Kerry victory. ...out comes a poll showing Kerry has a 4-5 point lead; down goes the market, big time. _______________ Hannity: 196 Day until we re-elect George W. Bush _______________ David Burnett, Former Fox News Reporter, Washington DC: The thing I think that distresses me more than anything else is that a lot of the news content is not coming straight out of the news room, but out of the promotion department. Bob McChesney, Author of “The Problem of the Media”: When you let a small number of companies have this much concentrated power, they will always abuse it. It’s simply unacceptable in a free society. And if you don’t change the system, we’ll be having this conversation in the next fifty years and be talking about Rupert Murdoch III John Nichols, Author of “Dick: The Man Who is President”: When you have one network that is so powerful and so intent upon warping the dialog, it limits that discourse, it actually limits it to be a narrower discourse, and I think that’s what citizens ought to be up in arms about. We can’t accept this anymore. If we do accept it, we are hanging on to our children and grandchildren a lesser democracy than we inherited, and that’s the one thing we don’t have a right to do.My work here is done for the day... "I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:21 PM
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STORYMARK
Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:40 PM
Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I'm glad the succses of FOX News is driving you nutz, I LAFF AT YOUR PAIN.....AHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!........funny pinkos
Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Hey, everybody - WhoZit's back. And back. And back. :) "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:15 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: I had forgotten how really, really stupid you strive to be, bagel boy. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Friday, April 2, 2010 5:14 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Friday, April 2, 2010 6:11 AM
MAL4PREZ
Friday, April 2, 2010 6:29 AM
RIVERLOVE
Friday, April 2, 2010 7:02 AM
Quote:Title Changed by RiverLove: Another Fox News Obsession Thread
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