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Moscow Subway Suicide Blasts Kill Dozens
Monday, March 29, 2010 8:25 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:2 Female Bombers Kill at Least 38 During Rush Hour Attack Likely Linked to Muslim Separatists from Caucasus Region Two female suicide bombers blew themselves up Monday in twin attacks on Moscow subway stations jam-packed with rush-hour passengers, killing at least 38 people and wounding more than 60, officials said. They blamed the carnage on rebels from the Caucasus region. The blasts come six years after Islamic separatists from the southern Russian region carried out a pair of deadly Moscow subway strikes and raise concerns that the war has once again come to the capital, amid militants' warnings of a renewed determination to push their fight. The first explosion took place just before 8 a.m. at the Lubyanka station in central Moscow. The station is underneath the building that houses the main offices of the Federal Security Service, the KGB's main successor agency, a symbol of power under Vladimir Putin. About 45 minutes later, a second explosion hit the Park Kultury station, which is near the renowned Gorky Park. In both cases, the bombs were detonated as the trains pulled into the stations and the doors were opening. "I heard a bang, turned my head and smoke was everywhere. People ran for the exits screaming," said 24-year-old Alexander Vakulov, who was on a train on the platform opposite the targeted train at Park Kultury. "I saw a dead person for the first time in my life," said Valentin Popov, 19, who had just arrived at the station from the opposite direction. The iconic Moscow subway system is the world's second-busiest after Tokyo's, carrying around 7 million passengers on an average workday, and is a key element in running the sprawling and traffic-choked city. Russian TV showed amateur video from inside the Lubyanka station of wounded and possibly dead victims sitting and lying on the floor. The train platform was filled with smoke. The LifeNews.ru site showed gruesome photos of dead passengers sprawled inside a mangled subway car and a bloody leg lying on a station platform.
Monday, March 29, 2010 8:33 AM
CHRISISALL
Monday, March 29, 2010 8:52 AM
Monday, March 29, 2010 9:02 AM
GINOBIFFARONI
Monday, March 29, 2010 9:46 AM
Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:59 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:48 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, April 1, 2010 5:24 AM
Thursday, April 1, 2010 5:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If only Russia hadn't stuck its nose into M.E. politics, and supported those evil Jews.... Oh, wait. They did neither of those things, and yet still civilians are being blown up. Huh. Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!" Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
Thursday, April 1, 2010 7:39 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, April 1, 2010 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JaynezTown: big trouble coming
Thursday, April 1, 2010 9:10 AM
Thursday, April 1, 2010 10:52 AM
Thursday, April 1, 2010 10:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: What an idiot...
Friday, April 2, 2010 1:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Russia NEVER stuck its nose into mid-east politics? Really? Guess it must have been some OTHER Soviet Union that was supplying everybody but Israel back in the day, or that invaded and occupied Afghanistan...
Friday, April 2, 2010 2:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Russia NEVER stuck its nose into mid-east politics? Really? Guess it must have been some OTHER Soviet Union that was supplying everybody but Israel back in the day, or that invaded and occupied Afghanistan... So, these bombings are a delayed reaction for what occurred under the Soviet Union era ? 21 years ago ? Really? The Chechens are upset that the old Soviet Union supplied everyone BUT Israel ? Really? Hard to figure out that " religion of peace ", ain't it ? Or the simple mind of Kwickie, at least.
Friday, April 2, 2010 2:24 AM
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Friday, April 2, 2010 8:12 AM
MINCINGBEAST
Friday, April 2, 2010 8:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: im with rappy on this one. the bombings weren't carried out because of islam, but islam certainly played a role in the bomber's motivations. that, and the absolute revolting brutality the russians have visited upon chechnya. they ought to leave the chechens alone, so they can visit absolute brutality on themselves and their neighbors.
Friday, April 2, 2010 8:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURAPTOR: Just a wild coincidence that the suicide bombers in Moscow were Muslim, huh? People on the Left wrongly blame our involvement w/ Israel as being a driving force of why we were struck on 9/11, ( us embassies, uss cole, etc.. ) but no where in OBL's fatwa does it mention anything about that. And no one accuses Russia of sidling up w/ Israel, so that can't be the reason. MY POINT was that the islamo terrorists don't have the same issues w/ Russia as they claim they do w/ the United States, and yet they get attacked, with suicide bombers.
Quote: The Chechens have their own history with Russia. They're also Muslim. Muslims blow themselves, and civilians up via suicide bombs.
Quote:Seems there's no end of excuses they'll offer as a reason why they'll commit such acts.
Friday, April 2, 2010 8:54 AM
Friday, April 2, 2010 9:14 AM
Friday, April 2, 2010 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: gino, the russian's justification for brutalizing the chechens, if i recall, was something along the lines of "if we don't brutalize you guys, you guys will be in charge of the brutality." and c'mon guys, to argue that the dudes who pull this kind of bullshit (suicide bombings, in particular) do not link it at all in their own minds to their belief in an imaginary bronze age deity is just silly. silly, i say.
Friday, April 2, 2010 9:36 AM
Friday, April 2, 2010 9:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: and c'mon guys, to argue that the dudes who pull this kind of bullshit (suicide bombings, in particular) do not link it at all in their own minds to their belief in an imaginary bronze age deity is just silly. silly, i say.
Friday, April 2, 2010 9:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: gino, wasn't trying to make an anti-muslim comments, but rather a comment on the circularity of brutality. and i didn't, if i recall, mention anything bout my joo-ry, or israel. if you'd like, i'd be more than happy to fabricate an endless stream of anti-muslim comments. that way, you could accuse me of prejudice, i could accuse you of being stupid, and we'd both be happy with our smug moral sanctimony.
Friday, April 2, 2010 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: gino, wasn't trying to make an anti-muslim comments, but rather a comment on the circularity of brutality. and i didn't, if i recall, mention anything bout my joo-ry, or israel. if you'd like, i'd be more than happy to fabricate an endless stream of anti-muslim comments. that way, you could accuse me of prejudice, i could accuse you of being stupid, and we'd both be happy with our smug moral sanctimony. I apologize Mince, What you had said did strike me as very anti Muslim, and as AU frequently makes such comments I wanted to clarify your intent, just as you challenged the intent of others in treads earlier. So you are saying with the " circularity of brutality " Chechnya independance would resemble Israel then ? Endless suspicion, paranoia, and hatred on both side spilling into constant fighting ?
Friday, April 2, 2010 10:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: and c'mon guys, to argue that the dudes who pull this kind of bullshit (suicide bombings, in particular) do not link it at all in their own minds to their belief in an imaginary bronze age deity is just silly. silly, i say. Again, that would make them different from us HOW, exactly? From Dubya Bush's own words, HE clearly linked bombing the living fuck out of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis with HIS "god", and thought he was fully justified in doing so. So why am I supposed to care if someone who believes in another "god" blows themselves up? Hell, if anything I applaud their resolve; I wish Dubya had had the balls to blow himself up to prove his point, but he's been a gutless coward his entire life, so I wouldn't expect him to change his (yellow) stripes.
Friday, April 2, 2010 10:15 AM
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Friday, April 2, 2010 12:54 PM
Friday, April 2, 2010 1:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by mincingbeast: certainly there is nothing uniquely islamic about blowing yourself up, anymore than there is anything uniquely American about being a fat dick, or Canadian about being second-fiddle to a fat dick. i would quibble, though, about the proportion of christians who are currently blowing themselves up in attacks on civilian populations, vs. the numbers of muslims doing the same. i don't see religion at the root of said behavior, but rather desperation.
Friday, April 2, 2010 2:15 PM
MAL4PREZ
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