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The virginity industry

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Monday, May 3, 2010 11:22 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Absolutely amazing. Can you imagine being in their shoes??
Quote:

Young Arab women wait in an upmarket medical clinic for an operation that will not only change their lives, but quite possibly save it. Yet the operation is a matter of choice and not necessity. It costs about 2,000 euros (£1,700) and carries very little risk.

The clinic is not in Dubai or Cairo, but in Paris. And the surgery they are waiting for is to restore their virginity.

Whether in Asia or the Arab world, an unknown number of women face an agonising problem having broken a deep taboo. They've had sex outside marriage and if found out, risk being ostracised by their communities, or even murdered.

Now more and more of them are undergoing surgery to re-connect their hymens and hide any sign of past sexual activity. They want to ensure that blood is spilled on their wedding night sheets.

The social pressure is so great that some women have even taken their own lives.

Sonia wants to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal. She is a slender young brunette studying at art college in Paris.

Although born in France, Arab culture and traditions are central to Sonia's life. Life was strict growing up under the watchful eyes of a large traditional Arab family.

Virginity certificates

"I thought of suicide after my first sexual relationship," she says, "because I couldn't see any other solution." But Sonia did find a solution.

She eventually went to the Paris clinic of Dr Marc Abecassis to have surgery to restore her hymen. She says she will never reveal her secret to anyone, especially her husband to be.

"I consider this is my sex life and I don't have to tell anyone about it," she says. It's men that are obliging her to lie about it, she says.

Dr Abecassis performs a "hymenoplasty" as it's called, at least two to three times a week. Re-connecting the tissue of the hymen takes about 30 minutes under local anaesthetic.

Some of the women come to him because they need virginity certificates in order to marry.

"She can be in danger because sometimes it's a matter of traditions and family," says Dr Abecassis. "I believe we as doctors have no right to decide for her or judge her."

With Chinese manufacturers leading the way, there are now non-surgical options on the market as well. One website sells artificial hymens for just £20 (23 euros). The Chinese hymen is made of elastic and filled with fake blood. Once inserted in the vagina, the woman can simulate virginity, the company claims.

Noor is a trendy professional who works in Damascus. He's fairly representative of young Syrian men in a secular society. But although Noor says he believes in equality for women, underneath the liberal facade lies a deep-rooted conservatism.

"I know girls who went through this restoration and they were caught out on their wedding night by their husbands," he says. "They realised they weren't virgins. Even if society accepts such a thing, I would still refuse to marry her."

Muslim clerics are quick to point out that the virginity issue is not about religion. "We should remember that when people wait for the virgin's blood to be spilled on the sheet, these are all cultural traditions," says Syrian cleric, Sheikh Mohamad Habash. "This is not related to Shariah law."

Christian communities in the Middle East are often just as firm in their belief that women should be virgins when they marry.

Arab writer and social commentator, Sana Al Khayat believes the whole issue has much to with the notion of "control".

"If she's a virgin, she doesn't have any way of comparing [her husband to other men]. If she's been with other men, then she has experience. Having experience makes women stronger."


It may be the 21st Century but the issue of virginity in Arab culture can still be a matter of life and death

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8641099.stm

I could say something...but I'll refrain.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, May 3, 2010 3:12 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I find the 'bloody sheet' tradition/expectation particularly ridiculous. There was no blood on the sheets after my first time. There was only the tiniest amount of blood, not some sort of gushing wound, regardless of the pain involved. It actually took a bit of time and a trip to the bathroom for any blood to show up at all. Had I been ordered to present proof of my virgin blood, I would likely have been stoned to death.

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Monday, May 3, 2010 3:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


PR,

Nah, just proves you're a witch, you'd be burned ;)

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Monday, May 3, 2010 3:28 PM

FREMDFIRMA



That's actually one thing I have thrown in the faces of certain predatory types back when I used to actively screw with em directly, Niki...

The idea of wanting an inexperienced partner to cover for your own perceived inadequacies is ridiculous, since even with a lack of actual experience, a little research and thought, in combination with the will and lack of selfishness to apply it, can go a long, long way.

I mean, really did you think I got by with such a naughty rep in high school on my personality ?

If SHE ain't finished, YOU ain't finished - words to live by.

Yanno, I wonder if I can find something that hints at that in the Quaran, that'd be something to yank their chains with, it would.

-F

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Monday, May 3, 2010 3:55 PM

CHRISISALL


More nonsense in a nonsensical world...


The laughing Chrisisall


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Monday, May 3, 2010 4:01 PM

DREAMTROVE


Frem,

Ironically, that was one of the rules of the puritans. I don't recall there's anything specifical on that in the Quran, it's been a long time since I read it. There's stuff about feeding women and general taking care of. You might find it the Hadith actually, rather than the Quran

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Monday, May 3, 2010 7:02 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
just proves you're a witch


Well everybody knows that...

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Tuesday, May 4, 2010 7:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The Quran has LOTS about women and their treatment, AND their rights! I looked it up to respond to someone quite a while ago, and was surprised at how much forethought was put into womens' rights...MUCH more than the Bible.

I had NO blood at all when I lost mine. Guess I would have been stoned to death, too!

And I'm betting dollars to donuts most of the men who want a "virgin" bride and have the freedom to reject her if she's not had "gotten it" somewhere along the line before they married!


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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