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Originally posted by Iremisst:
If any of you watch world news you have to notice that there has been like ?six? different stabbfests in as many weeks where in China where men walk into the nearest elementary school and start hacking up as many kiddies as they can get to... What is going on over there?!>?

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Maybe all that China school killing/slashing is a byproduct of their culture that includes eating dogs, drowning baby girls, and watching a lot of Tom Cruise movies.

Another big factor is they all look alike. Imagine if everyone, even your spouse, looked just like you....that would drive you insane at some point, right?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

These people are very angry. If they had guns, they would be spraying a mall, or a McDonalds, or their local officials. But gun ownership is outlawed in China, requiring up-close and personal knife-type attack.

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The schools are apparently VERY soft targets, and children are considered very precious. So attacking a school is not only possible (unlike attacking a workplace, for example) but also generates the maximum collective pain.

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Those are two of the stupider statements I've ever heard from you.

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Do you think all black people look alike, too?

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Or do you just think it's funny when children are murdered?

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Originally posted by Iremisst:
Damn, kwicko, you are "Angry Man" today, aren't you ?... You know arguing with every ludicrous comment on here will drive you nuts, right? I'm gonna change your name to "kwick to bring grudges inta other posts"



Frustration, baby, you gotta BREATHE....

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Those are two of the stupider statements I've ever heard from you.

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Did you hear it or read it? There is a difference.

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Or do you just think it's funny when children are murdered?

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Not nearly as funny as aborted ones.

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
Fixed. Got my hands mixed up.

Careful, Niki, The Spelling Fairy might tickle you with a spork for doing its job.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nice. I bet you find dead retarded babies a laff riot, eh?

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nice. I bet you find dead retarded babies a laff riot, eh?

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What's Nancy Pelosi have to do with this?

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"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Maybe all that China school killing/slashing is a byproduct of their culture that includes eating dogs, drowning baby girls, and watching a lot of Tom Cruise movies.

Another big factor is they all look alike. Imagine if everyone, even your spouse, looked just like you....that would drive you insane at some point, right?

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Some of the most extreme violence took place in the southern province of Guangxi, where a Chinese journalist found a "disturbing picture of official compliance in the systematic killing and cannibalization of individuals in the name of political revolution and 'class struggle.'"[31] Senior party historians acknowledge that "In a few places, it even happened that 'counterrevolutionaries' were beaten to death and in the most beastly fashion had their flesh and liver consumed [by their killers]."[32] Not even the minor children of 'enemies of the people' were spared, as more than a few were tortured and bludgeoned to death, dismembered and some of their organs - hearts, livers, and genitals - eaten during 'human flesh banquets'.[33] As a result of this frenzied killing and 'obligatory cannibalism', an estimated 100,000 people were killed in Guangxi alone.[33]

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Originally posted by Journey:
It seems that this thread has disenegrated from its original question. But that is not going to stop me. There have been some things said I must add in my two cents, mostly because some right and some wrong has been voiced. I am, of course, ignoring nimrod cannon ball opinions. My credentials to say all of this is that I have studied Chinese culture including living there for some time. That said...

I think the multiple occurrences have a lot to do with a reactions being contagious. Think back to the school shootings in America. We could have asked the same thing about Americans then. What it boiled down to was a person with a problem acted out in a very bad way. Other people with similar problems saw this and somehow got the idea that it would be a solution for them too. I am not saying it is an excuse. But this is a factor to remember.

Knives? If you are going to get in a fight in China (a real one, not a few punches thrown), it is going to be with knives. Guns are out of the picture, so knives are the next best thing. They are easy to get a hold of. They do the damage. In a really twisted way, that part of the saga makes sense.

Kids? I think the person who said soft-target had it the closest. The one-child policy doesn't really make children not as valued (it does that to unborn children, but that is a different rant)...it does the opposite. That one kid you have is your one chance so you better not screw it up. Imagine a classroom full of Daddy's little princesses and Mama's perfect angels and that is about what you get. Most normal/well-adjusted kids I met were minority kids whose families were allowed to have more than one. Going for kids was probably the most devastating thing that could have been done. Think of it as the Chinese version of a school shooting.

Why? The mental health situation in China is not good. People who do not conform to what people are supposed to be (this goes for any disability and extends to how much you weigh or what size your wedding ring is) are pointed out and made fun of. It is a kind of group control, like peer pressure was in high school. Result - you do everything to fit into the mold you are supposed to. Which means sometimes denying yourself the help you need, and that was most definitely a factor. Society pressure is ENORMOUS. China probably has one of the highest student suicide rates in the world (India would be a close second). These situations are just taking it one step beyond not getting the grade you wanted on a test. Sad but true.

But more than that...there is evil in the world and every person living has the opportunity to sink to the bottom. Everyone has a breaking point, sad as that may be. Add to that that people are inherently selfish... Again, not an excuse. Sounds a bit cliche I am sure, but it is true and experience has held that up. While the government there may be responsible for many things, I don't think this is one of them. There are too many other incidents in other countries just as terrible for this to be just a China problem.

The one question I don't see being asked is "We're actually hearing about this?" The media in China is so tightly controlled I find it hard to believe that this made it out. There was a knife fight that killed a student and sent another to the hospital at a university I was at and the next day NOBODY said anything! The one peep we heard was quickly turned the next day into "Oh, I don't know who it was." If there are more incidents, I doubt we will be hearing about them.

So there are my two cents. Rip away.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Don't even get me started on the horrors of a State deciding whether folks can have children, or how many, the truth of that is a nightmare beyond your comprehension, and you're probably better off for it.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

I'm certain Jong was joking.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Saying it's a joke doesn't mean it's any less offensive or stupid a thing to say.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Oh, and Jong, for the record, frem is a little girl and mike is a cat.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Saying it's a joke doesn't mean it's any less offensive or stupid a thing to say.

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Thank you Miss Vanderbilt, except you've always defended it if it's a Liberal like Letterman or Mahr "joking" about raping Sarah Palin's daughter, or South Park "joking" about Palin's Down's Syndrome son. Then it's a real hoot.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Kitty, you defended Bill mahr to rap hem he brought it up. You said mar meant to be joking about knocking Bristol up when he was talking about willow. He may have meant that, but he's a pretty crude guy. I also kinda always assumed he was gay. I don't know if it was all the affectations, or the whole dating Ann coulter thing.

Frem,
I'll check it out some time. At the moment I have a ton of stuff to do. It's not all going to get done of course. Damn. I need lackeys.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Your right,I thought it was letterman, I was assuming that raps memory was better than mine.

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