RAND Paul is a racist asshole!! by Wulfenstar

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RAND Paul is a racist asshole!!

POSTED BY: WULFENSTAR
UPDATED: Friday, May 21, 2010 06:48
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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:02 AM

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Wow. You guys missed the point entirely.

He was saying, and its something I agree with, that you have the right as a property owner, to be descriminatory.

Now, hold on before you jump on that, and please... no sound bites.

Yes, you do have the right, to ban blacks, or white, gays, or straights, jews or muslims... as it is YOUR properyt and YOUR business. To do with as you see fit.

Now banning folks from entering, from purchasing your products, seems stupid doesnt it?

Why?

Because you cut out an entire customer base, AND when the sh*t hits the fan of what you are doing, noone would want to be seen at your place.

So, basically, your business fails.

Open market.

You see, the government should never try to solve "social" problems. Its up to the society to do that AND, anytime the gov. tries to "fix" a scoial problem... they fail and usually make it worse.

And as to the whole slavery thing? hell, France did a better job of it and didn't have to fight a war over it either.

You let people solve their own issues, and it ends up better than any law could make it.

By the way, just as a note... you guys DO know that the Civil War was not really about slavery, right?

In the end, people have the right to be stupid, they have the right to do as they see fit with their property, and having gov. trying to "fix" things usually just makes them worse.

Let people be people and they ahve a tendancy to solve their own problems, musch better than any law could ever do.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:12 AM

WULFENSTAR

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This is what I dont get...

You turn a blind eye to the FACT that there are parts of the country that YOU are not welcome in.

There are parts of the country that you KNOW, not fear, where you will be harrassed and sometimes worse.

But thats ok, cus so long as it isn't your pets that its happening to, but rather yourself and people who look like you...

Well, thats ok.

Cus you can always go back to where you belong.

And you think the police and the gov will protect you. And keep your pets in-line and in their sanctuary.

You call me racist? Jeeze, libs and their like are the biggest racists and elitists of them all.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:15 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

By the way, just as a note... you guys DO know that the Civil War was not really about slavery, right?

I know it was about more than just slavery. But I also know that guys like you want to pretend it was about everything but.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:17 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

You call me racist? Jeeze, libs and their like are the biggest racists and elitists of them all.

Seriously - step out of your fantasy world you douchebag.

You say openly racist things on a regular basis, and call others racist for pointing it out.

You are a colossal twat.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Let me make it very clear so you will understand...

Libs treat black and brown people like dirty little animals.

You keep them down thru the "benign" racism of low expectations.

"it isn't your fault, its ours. You can't help being what you are... but don't worry, big daddy us will take care of you, make things better."

Its sick the way I've seen you guys act.

"No no no, you can't have guns! You might hurt yourself. Nope, you can't live here, look at the mess you've made... we are just going to gentrificate the area... Nope, you can't possibly afford to raise and feed yourselves... have some welfare. No, of course you can't produce doctors to take care of yourself... have some ObamaCare... Why of course you can have your own history museum child! Let us build it for you... feel better?"

Uggh, liberals are the most racist sons of bitches Ive EVER met.

And whats worse? You continue to hold people down, AND you invent little stories to make yourself feel better about it!

You whitewash history to make yourselves look like the good guys, when in fact you've done nothing but STOP people from learning to live together.

Uggh, thats it. Im done for now.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Triple post. Oops

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Oh screw you Brownshirt boy, I go down Cass Corridor quite often you know, and the locals are happy to see me, cracker or not.

But you go down there and you bring that fucking ATTITUDE with you, you sure as hell ain't gonna be welcome, and THAT is why, not your color, your fucking attitude.

And yanno what ?

It wouldn't be welcome up in the hills near Slanesville W.Va neither - so where does that leave you ?

-F

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:04 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Let me make it very clear so you will understand...

Libs treat black and brown people like dirty little animals.

You keep them down thru the "benign" racism of low expectations.

"it isn't your fault, its ours. You can't help being what you are... but don't worry, big daddy us will take care of you, make things better."

Its sick the way I've seen you guys act.

"No no no, you can't have guns! You might hurt yourself. Nope, you can't live here, look at the mess you've made... we are just going to gentrificate the area... Nope, you can't possibly afford to raise and feed yourselves... have some welfare. No, of course you can't produce doctors to take care of yourself... have some ObamaCare... Why of course you can have your own history museum child! Let us build it for you... feel better?"

Uggh, liberals are the most racist sons of bitches Ive EVER met.

And whats worse? You continue to hold people down, AND you invent little stories to make yourself feel better about it!

You whitewash history to make yourselves look like the good guys, when in fact you've done nothing but STOP people from learning to live together.

What a crock of self satisfied shit. You rail against other lumping you in with a group, and then freely do so to others anytime they disagree with you narrow little views.

You are hypocrisy defined. A worthless piece of ignorant shit - that's you in a nutshell, Wulfie.

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Uggh, thats it. Im done for now.

Promises, promises.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:26 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Frem,

Oh... give me a break.

We can both whip out our stories about being among the "savages".

Whats that gonna prove?

Its BECAUSE I DON'T have an attitude, that I can swim with the sharks.

Do I sit there and play Eminem? No. You should know better. Do I sit there and look down on them as animals? No.

So, because I am comfortable in my own skin (intended), and because I know how they move and how they think, AND because I wont back down and placate, I can move freely.

I don't grovel and play whigger, I don't look down with "pity", and I sure as hell don't act like an elitist, while also being able to FIGHT... just as hard and just as ugly... hell, Frem, I got more cred than you do.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Yes, you do have the right, to ban blacks, or white, gays, or straights, jews or muslims... as it is YOUR properyt and YOUR business. To do with as you see fit.

So Wulfie, in YOUR view property rights trump civil rights.

Got it.

From there , do we have a hop-skip-jump to slavery?

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:33 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Dammit, I need to stop answering this stuff..

"So Wulfie, in YOUR view property rights trump civil rights."

No, and you know better.

Do you have the right to not have bangers in your store? Yes. Do you have the right to enforce that with any means necessary? Yes.

Do you have the right to stop a Mexican from entering your store? Yes.

is it stupid? Sure, but only because you are denying yourself revenue.

So yeah, Im against gov. telling me who and what I have to let on MY property.

Again, people solve their problems a whole lot easier and better than gov.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:34 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

And yes, I am AGAINST Emminent Domain...

just wanted to throw that out there.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:42 AM

FREMDFIRMA

You don't have an attitude ?

Funniest damn thing I've heard all day.
He's all yours, Mikey.

-F

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:51 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

IF I have an attitude... well, hell.

So does everyone here.

Good for all of us

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:06 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Eh, just more wind, blowing hotly and foully through the leaves...and egging you all on with his idiocy.

I saw Paul being interviewed by Maddow, who kept trying to get him to answer one single question: Should there be laws to ensure decent treatment of people in PRIVATE businesses, as in he was against the Civil Rights Act only because it imposed civil rights on people who frequent private businesses.

He dodged, he danced, he quick-stepped; he never answered. All he did was proclaim over and over that he was against discrimination of ANY kind, etc., etc., and ended up calling her trying to get an answer out of him a "political ploy". It's not a political ploy, it's the biggest question mark about him in my opinion.

His answer, never spoken and dodged so determinedly, is clear. If a private business what's to do ANYTHING, he's against curtailing it in any way, especially the government doing so.

Ergo, he is against punishing employers for hiring illegal aliens; in fact he's FOR them doingso, if they want to. He's for businesses to make as much profit as they want, any way they want, including banks and financial institutions bringing this country to the brink of bankruptcy. He was obviously against bailouts, which means he doesn't mind people being destroyed by the actions of conscionsless wheeler-dealers who knew how to play them and made tons of money off their suffering. He is for private enterprise being able to discriminate against any race, sex, religion or anything else. He is for allowing any private enterprise to do anything they want to do, apparently.

That kills him for me. Anyone so blind as to not be able to see that the government sometimes IS there for our protection, and that civil rights wouldn't have been obtained WITHOUT government interference, and taht corporations shouldn't have carte blanche to do anything and everything they like in any way they like, is blind, a tool of corporations, and deluded. I have nothing against someone believing in something, but "all things in moderation", and he's an extremist.

It's totally telling that he celebrated his primary victory at an exclusive country club. Anyone who thinks he's either a man of the people or has the people's interests at heart is delusional.

If you get your wish, little tiny wind, and everyone thought like Rand Paul, you'd find yourself a slave in very short time to corporate interests, even more than we all are NOW. You won't believe me and I already know what your answer will be, which matters not one whit. It's the truth, because business left to its own devices will abuse anyone and everything to increase their profits.

As Rand Paul sees it, BP doesn't owe anyone a penny--oh, MORALLY they do, but nothing should be done to force them to if they don't want to. No doubt he also would be in favor of doing away with any regulatory agency (a REAL one, I mean, not MMS!) that would protect the country and its people from disaster.

You can have him. He'll go down in flames anyway, so it's a moot point. You are SO self-deluded it's amazing, your world is totally and completely black and white, and you can't see the real world to save your own life.

I'm with Sig on this one; neither extreme is healthy, and Rand Paul represents the severest extreme possible.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:17 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Frem,

Oh... give me a break.

We can both whip out our stories about being among the "savages".

Huh. You claim that we're all a bunch of racists, and then YOU are the one calling them "the savages". How's that working out for you?

I don't call my black and brown neighbors "savages"; I call them my neighbors. Many of them I even call by their first names. I help them, they help me, I owe them nothing but a chance to make their way, and they owe me nothing more or less than the same.

Seems YOU have a mighty big axe to grind. Maybe you can use that giant chip on your shoulder to grind it down.

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Do I sit there and play Eminem? No. You should know better. Do I sit there and look down on them as animals? No.

Why should we "know better" than to think you'd listen to a white musician?

As for not looking down on "them" as animals... you claim you don't - you look down on them as "savages". That's YOUR word; I didn't make it up, I didn't take it out of context, I didn't conflate it. It's YOUR word that YOU used to describe "them".

And THAT is why you're a racist. Hey at least you'll never have hemorrhoids; you are a perfect asshole.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:46 AM

HERO

I like Rand Paul...good fella.

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Now we just need to get Ron Paul...

Who? You can't go making up names or assuming that just because he has the same last name the two are in any way connected. Thats silly. Ron Paul...next you'll be wanting to vote for Don Paul, Chancey Pelosi, Bo Bidden, Jeb Bush or some other made up name.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:03 PM

KWICKO

... or Ru Paul.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:03 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Ahhh, I see the WulfWind IS a true Rand Paul supporter: "Do you have the right to stop a Mexican from entering your store? Yes." Actually, no, under the Civil Rights Act your fella wouldn't have voted for. And if you think you SHOULD have that right, you have just labeled yourself a racist by your very own words, even without the "savages" crack.

People don't solve things on their own; history's shown it time and time again.

Nobody stopped our forefathers from their racist attitudes and actions in wiping out the Native Americans, but of course in the end everyone "got it" and treated them fairly, right?

To think people get squared away when it's against their interests to do so...oh damn, I forgot, you don't live in the real world!

Liberals are the biggest racists around?

Omigawd, one of these days you MUST wake up in the real world, just for a change of pace, instead of waking up next to FauxNews and spending your day in their fantasy world!

You truly give yourself away as the classic example of their sycophants with every word you post! Nothing exists but what you hear on ClusterFox, does it? Nothing else is real, is fact...oh, except your fantasy movie clips and yourself as "perfect" and a "hero". Wow.

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Yes, you do have the right, to ban blacks, or white, gays, or straights, jews or muslims... as it is YOUR properyt and YOUR business. To do with as you see fit.

Again, you're wrong.

Ooops, I bothered to read...silly me. Yup, self-satisfied shit, colossal twit. At least I didn't let him get to me, I find him hysterical; my sympathy, Sig. He's nothing but a hot wind blowing through the trees, and all there is to hear is

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:14 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Dammit, I need to stop answering this stuff..

"So Wulfie, in YOUR view property rights trump civil rights."

No, and you know better.

Do you have the right to not have bangers in your store? Yes. Do you have the right to enforce that with any means necessary? Yes.

Do you have the right to tell people with guns to not come into your business? Do you have the right to order them to LEAVE your business?

By the way, what makes you so sure they're "bangers". Can you tell who's in a gang just by their looks? (Or do you just assume that they're in a gang if they're black?)

Why do you have the right to enforce that with any means necessary? Do those whom you decide are "bangers" not have a right to shop for groceries? Do they not have a right to shop at your gun store? Can they not buy ammo?

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Do you have the right to stop a Mexican from entering your store? Yes.

Why? And again, how do you distinguish a "Mexican" from a Puerto Rican (who is, by the way, a legal U.S. citizen!)?

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is it stupid? Sure, but only because you are denying yourself revenue.

Well, that's not *ALL* you're doing. You're also trying to remind certain groups of people that they are *less* than you, that they are beneath you, in your mind.

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So yeah, Im against gov. telling me who and what I have to let on MY property.

Again, people solve their problems a whole lot easier and better than gov.

How did people solve the problem of Nazi expansionism in Europe? How did people solve the problem of Japanese imperialism in the Pacific?

How do "people" solve problems like crime? More specifically, how did the "people" of Arizona choose to solve the problem of illegal immigration? Did they work together to find a mutual solution, or did they use the government to enact a law? I thought you said government and laws never work? How come you're so fired up about that law passed by that government?

Again, you're a walking man-shaped ball of hypocrisy and fail.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:44 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

... or Ru Paul.

And wouldn't that be Faaaabulous!

Shit, prolly be better *at* it than most of the folk the party hacks scrape up.

-F

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:03 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

... or Ru Paul.

And wouldn't that be Faaaabulous!

Shit, prolly be better *at* it than most of the folk the party hacks scrape up.

-F

And at least open and up front about who and what (s)he is.

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:25 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

The fact that Rand's opponent was counting the votes, and let Rand win, implies daddy Ron already cut a deal, as part of his stepping down after winning several states in the GOP presidential primary, and not spending $20-million of his Tea Party warchest.

Rand is probably a watered down version of Big Ron.

At any rate, he's only 1 vote in the Senate of Traitors.

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"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us."
-President George HW Bush, Knight of the British Empire

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Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:40 PM

KWICKO

Now, having said all that, Wulfie insists that I'm "missing the point". I really don't think I am. I count Tuesday night as a solid win for progressives everywhere in the country. In Pennsylvania, we got rid of an old-line Republican turncoat, and got a lifelong Democrat running for his spot, which is a definite win for the left.

In Arkansas, we forced a corporatist "moderate" Democrat into a runoff election with a more progressive (yet still moderate) Democrat. Again, the needle shifts to the left on this one. Either of them would likely get crushed by a Republican in this race this year, but at least now there's someone there that progressives can support without feeling like they need SoulBleach™ to cleanse themselves afterwards, or a good old-fashioned Silkwood Shower, complete with the wire brushes.

Back to Pennsylvania, where an honest-to-goodness Democrat outright WON the Congressional seat formerly held by the late Jack Murtha, in a district that voted for McCain in '08 and has been trending Republican since the '08 election. That's a solid win for progressives.

Now down to Old Kentucky, where Rand Paul handily beat Mitch McConnell's hand-picked would-be successor to Jim Bunning's senate seat in a primary race. Paul won the primary, but the democrat he's up against won his primary with over 22,000 votes more than Dr. Paul amassed in his "landslide". That makes this one a real Kentucky horse race. And it's still a positive for progressives. How, you ask, can a race where the Tea Party-backed candidate won his primary so handily be considered a victory for progressives? Easy. He's not the old-line conservative Republican pick. That's good for liberals. He's vulnerable because he doesn't have the old boys' network in his pocket (although they ARE lining up to jump into his pocket; even McConnell want to be his new "bestest friend"!) And, consider just for a moment Wulfie's idea that it's NOT about parties. Well, maybe, just MAYBE, Rand Paul will win outright, and he WON'T toe the old Republican party line, and he WON'T be in the pocket of the Democratic National Committee; he won't have a solid base to caucus with, but he CAN vote for or against virtually ANYTHING, as he feels his conscience and his constituents demand of him. As such, he could be a boon to progressives simply by NOT holding the same old line on the right.

If nothing else, he could be a breath of fresh air for the Senate. For all the hype, Scott Brown hasn't been that vaunted "41st vote" the right wanted so badly. What makes them think Rand Paul would carry their water for them, if Scott Brown won't?

Oh, and as an added bonus to progressives, Blanche Lincoln, in a move aimed purely at pandering to progressives in a vain effort to garner support from the left, proposed an amendment to the financial reform bill that is much stronger and much further to the left than she has ever gone before. And the conventional wisdom was that she'd let it die an undignified death once the election was over, because win or lose, she didn't need that kind of thing hanging around her neck and pissing off her big money donors. Now she's going to have to stick with it for another three weeks at least, until the runoff election is over. So I'm sure the Republicans will try their hardest to delay and stall, hoping that amendment will die before the completed bill can come up for a vote.

All in all, a pretty good week for progressives and liberals! And November is shaping up to be even better. :)

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Friday, May 21, 2010 6:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I agree with a lot of that (tho' I'm not sure about a "breath of fresh air"...I don't think he'll win, tho'). But I think it's a more mixed message to both parties; the two things I do note are that it's an indication the Repubs aren't going to do as well as they've been crowing--and taking back the House is a stretch--and I think the message is "no incumbents or insiders" more than anything. I'm not sure that's a good thing, since novices mixed with old timers might have a tough time getting by.

We'll just have to see I guess...

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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