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Helen Thomas to be leaving White House Press Corps?

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Friday, June 4, 2010 12:51 PM

WHOZIT



And she looks like a lawn gnome...ick

http://www.breitbart.tv/helen-thomas-tells-jews-get-the-hell-out-of-pa
lestine-and-go-back-to-germany-poland


No kidding, put a funny hat on her and tell to stand out on your lawn.


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Friday, June 4, 2010 12:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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" Paging Dr. Kervorkian. Dr Jack Kervokian.... "







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Friday, June 4, 2010 1:00 PM

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Friday, June 4, 2010 1:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

" Paging Dr. Kervorkian. Dr Jack Kervokian.... "




Why, are you feeling poorly?

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Friday, June 4, 2010 1:47 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

" Paging Dr. Kervorkian. Dr Jack Kervokian.... "




Why, are you feeling poorly?




You got nothing better to do but to troll after each and every post I make, regardless of thread or topic ?

Silly.....of COURSE you don't!







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Friday, June 4, 2010 2:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And aren't you trolling after my every post, regardless what thread or topic?

OF COURSE YOU ARE!

Mike

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This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 2:07 PM

KANEMAN


She is a talking dinosaur....

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Friday, June 4, 2010 2:16 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
She is a talking dinosaur....



More like Thecodont, or Archosaur. Older, dumber, and considered a " waste basket taxon " -
a term used in taxonomic circles to refer to a taxon that has the sole purpose of classifying organisms that do not fit anywhere else. They are typically defined by their lack of one or more distinct character states or by their not belonging to one or more other taxa. Wastebasket taxa are by definition either paraphyletic or polyphyletic, and are therefore not considered to be valid taxa under modern rules of taxonomy.


or..... a Helen Thomas.








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Friday, June 4, 2010 2:48 PM

FREMDFIRMA



I just wanna make sure you remember what him, and folks like him, really are, underneath those polite little masks.

Cause every time we forget...

We get Nixon, we get Bush, and like a decaying orbit, we never really do get back the ground they take, and if we keep forgettin, keep pretending that we can reason with em, that they can be reasoned with - eventually we're in for it.

Not on my watch, not ever.

-Frem

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Friday, June 4, 2010 3:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yup, for all his "joking" about Kevorkian, this is also the same Rappy that wanted Jack Murtha killed, "put down" were his exact words - and then tried to cry crocodile tears when the man actually died.

That's Rappy. That's his entire act in a nutshell.





Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 3:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, for all his "joking" about Kevorkian, this is also the same Rappy that wanted Jack Murtha killed, "put down" were his exact words - and then tried to cry crocodile tears when the man actually died.

That's Rappy. That's his entire act in a nutshell.

Mike



Best watch out. I also joked about a school's mascot dying, and the next week, it ended up dead.







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Friday, June 4, 2010 3:40 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I wish I lived in a culture where the aged were held with respect.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 3:50 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I wish I lived in a culture where the aged were held with respect.

--Anthony




Yes or no - Helen's remarks are worthy of respect ?





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Friday, June 4, 2010 3:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Are YOUR remarks worthy of respect?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:04 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Post 1: Link to a video. Poster's comments: Negative remarks about attractiveness.
Post 2: Poster's comments: Implying someone should be put to death. (Guess who)
Post 3: Video Link - no Poster comments.
Ugh. This is time consuming.
Skip a few...
Post 13: Someone asks for an opinion about what the subject of the video said for the first time, in an effort to defend ugly remarks.

It's magic. Watch and learn.

Step 1) Observe someone who says something you disagree with.
Step 2) Dehumanize them.

It's the one-two buckle-my-shoe dance that lets you dismiss people at a glance.

I'll be the first to comment on the actual content: The video subject's comments (Helen) are ugly and wrong, the poster's comments are ugly and wrong, the respondent's comments are ugly and wrong. It must be a convention.

Anyone disagrees with you? Not human. Frees up the options considerably. You got use for me, yet, Mr. Raptor? Or am I still supposed to be fucking myself?

Ready to apologize? Or am I not human yet, and worthy of civility?

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:16 PM

AURAPTOR

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Won't answer the question, will you ?

I'm not apologizing for my comments on that wizened old bigot, Thomas.

I do wish she retired a decade or more ago. Maybe she wouldn't be so bitter , but that's only speculation my part.

Feel free to answer the question though.






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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:25 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Read again. Thrice if necessary.

--Anthony



"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I notice Rappy won't answer MY question, either. I'm getting used to that.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Read again. Thrice if necessary.

--Anthony



It's a simple question, yes or no?

Instead of cryptically stating " the video subject's comments ...blah blah blah .. just come out and say whether you agree or disagree w/ her remarks ! It may be construed, from you curious sentence structure, that you either think her comments are ugly and crude, or the ones who made the video.

Point is, your post is needlessly wordy, and confusing.

One you seem to have trouble with. I wonder why.





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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Rappy, are you still a pedophile?

Yes or no.


Why won't you answer?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 4:44 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

You are a bully. It is not enough for someone to answer, they must answer with your preselected options. God forbid I use my own words to answer. Does that make me as inhuman as when I disagree with you? It's simple. Yes or No?

That woman's words in that video are unworthy of respect in my opinion. Hence, No.

Her words were never addressed here. Her appearance was. Her age, possibly. Your own desire that she die, apparently.

Is this what people are to you? Allies or Evil? Yes or No.

Am I worthy of Civility even when I disagree with you? Yes or No.

Are you worthy of Civility even when you disagree with me? The answer to that is Yes. I will never tell you to go fuck yourself, no matter how much disdain you show towards me as a person. Not my position. My person. Me. A Human being who has never wronged you.

I am a human man, Mr. Raptor. What did you say sentience was? Fully sensitive in perception and feeling?

Are you sentient, Mr. Raptor? Will you apologize? One answer. Yes or No.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:00 PM

AURAPTOR

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No. Not going to apologize.

I don't know what your station is life is, but you come across as being very simple and or naive.

Seriously, anyone who utters the crap ( oopsie, bad word ?) that Helen does in that video D E S E R V E S to be ridiculed and mocked for any and everything. Her age, her wrinkles...I don't care. She's a vile, disgusting human being.

Would you wince in distaste equally if someone poked fun at an aged Hitler ? Or would it harm your sensibilities to mock , for any reason, the man directly responsible for the death of countless millions across the world, the destruction of so much of Europe, and the attempted extermination of "undesirables " ?

Are you honestly going to tell me that you'd place such a premium on civility , no mater what, over the weight of the heinous crimes committed ? I really want to know. Just who the hell it is you really are.

Quote:

Is this what people are to you? Allies or Evil? Yes or No.


Yeah, I guess that'd be a YES. Me and Jack Ryan view the world....


Jack Ryan: You broke the law.
Ritter: You are such a Boy Scout! You see everything in black and white!
Jack Ryan: No, no, no! Not black and white Ritter, right and wrong!








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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Godwin. ^


Now Helen Thomas = Hitler? Really?



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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:06 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I wish I lived in a culture where the aged were held with respect.


I wish I lived in one where they hadn't saddled me with their mistakes, their poisoned society, their botched government and impending evil empire, and most of all, most rabidly, wish I lived in one where they hadn't landed their debts on me.

Both financial, and their duty to improve the world, not tramp it into the ground chasing some pie in the sky afterlife.

So there *is* that factor, in the lack of respect, although most folk won't admit it.

Not that they're not individuals, or don't have things to teach us, but they're not blameless, neither.

-F

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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No. Not going to apologize.

I don't know what your station is life is, but you come across as being very simple and or naive.

Seriously, anyone who utters the crap ( oopsie, bad word ?) that Helen does in that video D E S E R V E S to be ridiculed and mocked for any and everything. Her age, her wrinkles...I don't care. She's a vile, disgusting human being.

Would you wince in distaste equally if someone poked fun at an aged Hitler ? Or would it harm your sensibilities to mock , for any reason, the man directly responsible for the death of countless millions across the world, the destruction of so much of Europe, and the attempted extermination of "undesirables " ?

Are you honestly going to tell me that you'd place such a premium on civility , no mater what, over the weight of the heinous crimes committed ? I really want to know. Just who the hell it is you really are.





So you are saying right here, on the record, that Barbara Bush's vile comments on Katrina victims - "What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is that they all want to stay in Texas. So many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working out very well for them" - those comments, in your view, open her up for EVERY criticism, including cracks about her age, her health, her looks, anything and everything, right? Maybe she should be compared to Hitler, eh?


You seem to live in a very simple, very naive world, Rappy. Everything is black and white for you - people are on your side, or they aren't human, and deserve to die. And you'll never, EVER apologize, for anything. It's simply beyond your ability, like a spoiled, petulant child.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:16 PM

AURAPTOR

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Kwickie

I'm not about to begin to take your ridiculous suggestion that what Barbara Bush said and what Helen Thomas said could be anywhere remotely analogous to one another.

It deserves no further comment.





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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


I'm not about to begin to take your ridiculous suggestion that what Barbara Bush said and what Helen Thomas said could be anywhere remotely analogous to one another.




I thought you were trying to say that ANYONE who uttered vile and reprehensible things was fair game for any and all kinds of ridicule, including comments about their looks, age, and even suggestions that they should die or be killed.

Quote:


Seriously, anyone who utters the crap... D E S E R V E S to be ridiculed and mocked for any and everything. Her age, her wrinkles...I don't care. She's a vile, disgusting human being.





Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:59 PM

ANTHONYT

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"I thought you were trying to say that ANYONE who uttered vile and reprehensible things was fair game for any and all kinds of ridicule, including comments about their looks, age, and even suggestions that they should die or be killed."

Hello Mike,

Except for himself, apparently.

I don't know what I'd do if faced with Hitler. I'm human. But I do think I could work with convicted prisoners without abusing them. Even those who've done reprehensible things. That's the sort of simpleton I am.

In his complicated worldview, by contrast, everyone who disagrees is the opposition. Everyone in the opposition is an enemy. Every enemy is inhuman, and deserves all possible ills. This is the complicated worldview that ends in torture.

I'll pass, and live my naive simple life.

--Anthony




"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 6:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Anthony, I'm with you.

You forgot one thing, though: In RappyWorld™, it's not torture at all. Because they're not human anymore.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Friday, June 4, 2010 7:25 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Ironic that his fictional hero, Jack Ryan, is such a polite gentleman, with such high regard for human sensibilities.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:20 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Ironic that his fictional hero, Jack Ryan, is such a polite gentleman, with such high regard for human sensibilities.



Jack Ryan is a character by Tom Clancy. He's not MY fictional hero. All I did was notice similarities in how I and this character view the world.

And it's because we also share a high regard for human sensibilities, that we can't stand idly by when something so egregiously wrong takes place right in front of us. We are compelled to say or do something, instead of merely resting our chin in our hand, nod thoughtfully, and mutter in a quiet tone.





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Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:30 AM

WHOZIT


Good News! The lawn gnome has said she's sorry, since she's a lib and a member of the White House Press Whores (and ugly) this will soon be forgotten.......by them.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 3:05 AM

DREAMTROVE




Okay, here's the why: whozit and rap have a valid point, which they totally fail to deliver by not saying it. Sure, mike trolls everything rap posts, and has for a very long time. Sorry man, its just true, your critiques of rap would sway more if they only happened occasionally.

Excellent deconstruction by Anthony, thanks.


Okay, here's what I see as where the brain opted for fail

You posted a video without a hint as to it's content, so, foregone conclusion that no one watches it. This fails to make the point.

Then you go over the top with jokes about helena age and unattractiveness, and call for her to die, rather than actually discussing your actual gripe. So, posters turn against you, because you are representing death on this thread.

You fail to deliver the point, and you end up jn the wrong discussion, one about your transgressions, not Helen thomas'.

Okay, here it is: the video is Helen Thomas saying that the Jews should get the hell out of Israel and go back to Germany and Poland. She does it in a very unprepossessing manner. Germany and Poland of course are not wherek the Jews came from, most were born in israel, and their families came largely from the US and Russia. Thinking of Jews in terms of Germany and Poland, where they were exterminated, betrays an almost pro-holocaust mentality.

Ergo, Helen Thomas standing alone with no comments would draw the condemnation of everyone, but you two calling for her death and not telling anyone what she said makes people oppose you, and support Thomas.

Finally, people come into this with prior knowledge of Helen Thomas as someone who opposed our middle east conflcts. 70% oppose our involvement nationally, and 80% internationally. This leads people to agree with Thomas, but sady, some people who opposed our involvement did so because they actuallysupportedSaddam Hussein, the video gave me my first doubts. Thanks for that refreshing perspective. Also, you guys delivered your point about as poorly as you possibly could.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:36 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Well spoken, Dream. We see here the mishandling of a message and the derailing of a thread away from its intended purpose.

I suspect we'd have seen unanimous agreement with honest commentary about the actual content of her remarks.

--Anthony





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Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:57 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:


Okay, here's the why: whozit and rap have a valid point, which they totally fail to deliver by not saying it. Sure, mike trolls everything rap posts, and has for a very long time. Sorry man, its just true, your critiques of rap would sway more if they only happened occasionally.

Excellent deconstruction by Anthony, thanks.


Okay, here's what I see as where the brain opted for fail

You posted a video without a hint as to it's content, so, foregone conclusion that no one watches it. This fails to make the point.

Then you go over the top with jokes about helena age and unattractiveness, and call for her to die, rather than actually discussing your actual gripe. So, posters turn against you, because you are representing death on this thread.

You fail to deliver the point, and you end up jn the wrong discussion, one about your transgressions, not Helen thomas'.

Okay, here it is: the video is Helen Thomas saying that the Jews should get the hell out of Israel and go back to Germany and Poland. She does it in a very unprepossessing manner. Germany and Poland of course are not wherek the Jews came from, most were born in israel, and their families came largely from the US and Russia. Thinking of Jews in terms of Germany and Poland, where they were exterminated, betrays an almost pro-holocaust mentality.

Ergo, Helen Thomas standing alone with no comments would draw the condemnation of everyone, but you two calling for her death and not telling anyone what she said makes people oppose you, and support Thomas.

Finally, people come into this with prior knowledge of Helen Thomas as someone who opposed our middle east conflcts. 70% oppose our involvement nationally, and 80% internationally. This leads people to agree with Thomas, but sady, some people who opposed our involvement did so because they actuallysupportedSaddam Hussein, the video gave me my first doubts. Thanks for that refreshing perspective. Also, you guys delivered your point about as poorly as you possibly could.

I didn't call for her death, but I stand by my remark that she looks like a "lawn gnome". YOU should add that she's old and may not be all there anymore, like Sophia from the "Golden Girls" just spitting out what ever is in her mushy brain.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 11:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



So, can we conclude that Helen feels similarly towards the illegals in THIS country as well ?

" Tell them to get the hell out ...go home. "

That about sum things up for you, Helen?







** ANYONE ** who thinks the Fed Gov't has done " all it possibly can " in response the Gulf Coast oil disaster, or who thinks Obama isn't lying to us all - I have no use for you. You deserve all the animosity and any vulgar "tone" directed your way. ( Anthony , that includes you, buddy. Sorry )

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, can we conclude that Helen feels similarly towards the illegals in THIS country as well ?

" Tell them to get the hell out ...go home. "

That about sum things up for you, Helen?




I suppose so, if we can conclude that you feel that way towards the Israelis who have been illegally in Palestine for the last 60 years.

"Tell them to get the hell out... go home."

That about sum things up for you, Rappy?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:58 PM

DREAMTROVE


Anthony,

I would hope so, though i'm not entirely sure...


Whozit,

That's not the point, the point is that you failed to get the point across. As Anthony said, correctly done, it would have found complete agreement.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

I didn't call for her death, but I stand by my remark that she looks like a "lawn gnome". YOU should add that she's old and may not be all there anymore, like Sophia from the "Golden Girls" just spitting out what ever is in her mushy brain.




But by the rules set out in this "debate", couldn't the exact same thing be said of Barbara Bush?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 4:32 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:



I suppose so, if we can conclude that you feel that way towards the Israelis who have been illegally in Palestine for the last 60 years.

"Tell them to get the hell out... go home."

That about sum things up for you, Rappy?

Mike




Nope. Not really.





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Monday, June 7, 2010 11:05 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, for all his "joking" about Kevorkian, this is also the same Rappy that wanted Jack Murtha killed, "put down" were his exact words - and then tried to cry crocodile tears when the man actually died.

That's Rappy. That's his entire act in a nutshell.

Mike



HELEN THOMAS ANNOUNCES RETIREMENT

WASHINGTON, June 7, 2010 – Helen Thomas announced Monday that she is retiring, effective immediately.

Her decision came after her controversial comments about Israel and the Palestinians were captured on videotape and widely disseminated on the Internet.

Thomas later issued a statement: ``I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.’’

Thomas will mark her 90th birthday on Aug. 4.



" She's dead, Jim. "




Now she can continue full time w/ her other career... that of a model for optical illusion images...









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Monday, June 7, 2010 1:30 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Helen Thomas has more balls than 90% of "men" in USSA.

All Israelis must die.

Helen Thomas gave Kay Griggs a place to stay and advised her how to survive assassination from Uncle Scam, where her hubbie was an assassin (who looks exactly like Lee Harvey Oswald). All US Naval Intell officers and enlisted must be homosexually gangraped:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862#
www.rense.com/general67/evil.htm
www.kaygriggstalks.com

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Monday, June 7, 2010 6:15 PM

FREMDFIRMA



While her comments were stupid and ill informed, this seemed to have more to do with the fact that she dared critize our favorite backstabbing, blackbagging, so-called-ally who shall not be named.

Really, how dare she bitch about them turning a whole sovereign nation into a concentration camp and then taking their land by force - doesn't she know they're gods chosen and we're all their bitches ?


Not that I care so much for the rest of em, but when my tax dime, extracted by threat of force, is going to support that shit I got every right to bitch about it.

Strikes me the lady's comments were in reaction to frustration at our governments boot licking servility to an "ally" who's only relationship with us seems to be abuse, espionage and exploitation.

And of course, running her out of town on a rail then goes and gives credence to actually anti-semetic folk like PN, and worse.

-F

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Monday, June 7, 2010 6:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Next on the celebrity death-watch list?








Mike

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 9:01 PM

PIRATENEWS

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She fought the Good Fight, but the Jew World Odor won.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 8:02 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


I agree with Frem and PN on this one.

Shocker, I know.

But, the fact that she got run out for openly denouncing Israel says a hell of a lot.

Look.

We fought WW2, AND stole land from the Palestinians... all or partly, so the Jews could continue to exist.

America has done enough.

Deal with your own problems and leave us out of it.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 8:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:


We fought WW2, AND stole land from the Palestinians... all or partly, so the Jews could continue to exist.



Well, yes. We did fight WW2. Correct.

" We " stole land from the Palestinians ? Nope. Incorrect.


OK , here's where it gets a bit fuzzy. Let's assume you meant to say we " stole " the land from the Pals to allow the Jews to exist. ( and not that we fought WW2 to save the Jews. That'd REALLY be silly to say )

Jews were living in that part of the world already. They'd always planned to "reclaim" or make , however you want to put it, that part of the world their nation. It WAS theirs, after all, at some point of history. Their fairy tale book says so, and it's far older than the Christians fairy tale book, or the Muslims fairy tale book. Sorry, first book wins.


I kinda agree, on stepping back and not sending so much $$ to Israel. I think they'd be a stronger ally if they weren't such suck ups.








" Being correct does not excuse a violation of form " - Ducky, NCIS.


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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 9:20 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


I wonder what would happen if we (the US) really stopped sending money and aid to Israel?

Would Israel be able to stand on their own? Is it our concern?


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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Wulf, we didn't fight WWII to save the Jews. Hell, we refused to even acknowledge any problem as far as they were concerned until the conclusion of the war in the European Theatre. We had chances aplenty to take in Jewish refugees prior to the war, and refused. We had all the evidence anyone could ever want or need that the Jews were being rounded up, sent to camps, used as slave labor, and then being exterminated, and we didn't listen, because we couldn't imagine such a thing could occur.

We fought WWII to defeat the Japanese Empire and to defeat fascism in Europe, and some would say to end the Depression here, but we most certainly did not fight it to save the Jews. That any Jews WERE saved was merely a lucky coincidence for us.
And in the aftermath of the war, we joined in - reluctantly, at times - with others in trying to assuage our own guilt by giving the Jews a homeland, from land that was taken from the Palestinians, but which was under British control at the time, if memory serves.

But I *DO* have to wonder what would happen if we stopped sending money and weapons to Israel and let them stand on their own. That's not to say we'd encourage anyone else to invade, but we wouldn't automatically have Israel's back no matter what they did.

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:56 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


I was misunderstood.

I know very well the reasons we fought WW2.

What I was trying to say is: Hey, Jews/Israelies.. we saved your ass in WW2. We even took land from the Palestinians to give you a place to stay afterward (cus noone wanted you in Europe), we let you into our government (where you then stole nuclear secrets and sold them), we've supported you while you've become bullies and much like the Nazi party...

Enough is enough.

If you can't stand on your own, tough.

Im tired of my money going to a country that acts just like the Nazi Party.

Call me an "anti-semite" if you want, honestly I don't care.

The Israelies are the worst bullies in the Middle East and Im sick of it. I don't care if they are the "chosen" people. I don't care if they lost "6 million".

We have done enough.

Stand on your own or fall. We have enough problems here.






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