Yes indeedy, things are going SO much better over there. We really did a "heck of a job" in Iraq...[quote]Two cars driven by suicide bombers exploded in..."/>

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Successive blasts rock Baghdad, killing 29

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 6:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yes indeedy, things are going SO much better over there. We really did a "heck of a job" in Iraq...
Quote:

Two cars driven by suicide bombers exploded in quick succession in western Baghdad on Sunday, killing 29 people and wounding at least 65, the interior ministry said.

The bombs went off in al-Mansour neighborhood, close to a government office that issues national identity cards.

A wave of violence across the country has left scores dead and wounded in the past few days.

Analysts have expressed concern that extremists would take advantage of the current power vacuum to create further instability as politicians continue wrangling to form a government -- more than three months after national elections.

More at http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.blasts/index.html?hpt=T
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Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:00 AM

WHOZIT


Sorry but now that Obama is Prez this is no longger a big story, but if you want to talk about the lastest White House Party I'm in!

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:13 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Time to go. We've done our damage well. Time to get out of there. Get out of Afghanistan too, if I had my druthers.

We can stop invading Germany, too, for that matter. Though the 52,000 troops there probably appreciate the beer.

--Anthony


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Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:31 AM

NIKI2

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Quote:

Time to go. We've done our damage well. Time to get out of there. Get out of Afghanistan too, if I had my druthers.
Her hear!

The troops in Germany will always be there. It's a takeoff point for troops all over the world, and that's where people are flown for medical care, etc. We went to the commissary there once (dad's retired Navy) and it was amazing; HUGE, with stuff from all over Germany, beautiful stuff. My mom fell for dresden figurines and bought many, I always loved them as a kid, they were so delicate and beautifull.

We'll always be in Germany, as long as they let us stay (and I imagine they always will; it's good for the local economy and of course we have close ties).


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

To Kwicko:" You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 7:51 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Niki, as much as you love our German facility, I think we can draw down most of the 52,000 troops there.

If we pull folks from Afghanistan and Iraq, that lovely German hospital will see less use, too.

A large German facility exists as a waypoint to warzones I no longer want to be involved in. If we really need medical facilities in an area, we can send a hospital ship. If it's more complicated than that, we can pay a local five star hospital to take in our few super-critical-needs-whizbang-tech patients.

--Anthony



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Monday, June 21, 2010 7:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sorry you misunderstood. I wasnt intending to DEFEND our being in Germany, just describe its function a bit as a way of saying "It ain't going anywhere". I, too, would love to see us get out of wars, but I recognize that our German jump-off point will always be around, given it's been there and BIG since I was there, thirty years ago. It's convenient for the families of soldiers who are stationed overseas, and I'm sure Germany benefits from it; ergo, it stays.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

To Kwicko:" You're the putrid slime which oozes between troll's toes, you're so low.” ...Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Monday, June 21, 2010 9:19 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Deaths overall are way down compared to the 2006-08 period. http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, June 21, 2010 12:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


I suspect that iraqbodycount is suspect. I was counting when they were counting and their count didn't count up so fast so I don't think it don't think it counts.

Anyway I suspect we're all agreed. Whozit has a point too. It's like Clinton's wars. Obamas wars are not news. I blame both sides: The left is less capable of attacking its own guy (present company accepted) and the right is unwilling to attack the president on military issues, which it should, rather than some of the mamby pamby stuff they actually do pull.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 12:49 PM

BYTEMITE


So question. If the U.S. wasn't in the country, and part of the task force helping Iraq sort out the government here post election, would we have had this bombing?

Maybe? I don't know. This is the problem with extremists, they blow stuff up, but they don't really make clear why. Could be any number of things, couldn't it? US. Occuption, protest against puppet government, minority vs. majority, Iranian border hoppers, protest against Israel...?

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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:14 PM

DREAMTROVE


Byte,

I'm pretty sure the bombing would not have taken place.

The US funds and arms the terrorists, either intentionally or not, through loose weapons policies and permissive interference from other Mideast powers.

If we were to vacate, Iran would take over overnight, and be welcomed by the vast majority of Iraqis, excepting the al Qaeda types like we were just talking about in the other thread. OTOH, iran is fairly no nonsense re al Qaeda, So I don't think it will be much of a threat.

Ironically, it's not our puppet govt. It's one thing I have to give Bush, as much as I'm surprised to say so. He set up three democracies: Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. 2 of the 3 appear to be functional democracies, which fewer than 15% of the worlds democracies are.

I read this definition of a functional democracy which I'm using:

1) A candidate without strong support cannot be declared victor in an election
2) no candidate can get more than 70% of the vote.


I'd like to see an additional stipulation that outsid candidates can win elections, but hey, you go to the polls with the democracy you have, not the democracy you might want.

Oh, 2) above is a curious one. It turns out to be statistically impossible. I wouldn't have thought so, but as you pass 50% your support radically diminishes, plus, you have zero incentive to bolster it, whereas opposition support increase, and they have every reason to work on it. Essentially, everyone opposes tyranny is the basic idea, but the statistics bear it out. There are some notable democracies that fail by this measure, such as Russia, Egypt, ethiopia and south Africa. Of course, given that those are the failures, there's no reason to assume the statistical analysis is wrong ;)

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