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Monday, June 28, 2010 10:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Thick oil from BP Plc's Gulf of Mexico spill washed ashore in Mississippi for the first time on Sunday while Russia's president suggested a special levy on oil companies to bankroll a fund to help clean up environmental disasters like this one.

Gluey gobs of brown oil and a rainbow oil sheen sloshed onto tourist beaches at Ocean Springs, Mississippi, about 10 miles east of Biloxi, and at a beach used by fisherman that is close to an inland marsh.

Mississippi state officials and the U.S. Coast Guard, who said they expect more oil to arrive, were waiting on BP contractors to start cleaning up.

From the same article, Medvedev apparently has a new idea:
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Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who heads the world's biggest energy producer, made a proposal for a global pollution fund at the Group of 20 summit in Toronto. He said G20 leaders had asked experts to work on the idea.

"One of the ideas, which still needs discussion, is for dues from major international companies which produce oil to be placed into a special consolidated fund or, and perhaps together with that, for the insurance of such risks paid for by those corresponding dues," Medvedev told reporters.

More at http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=oil-spills-hits-missi
ssippi-shore


Interesting concept...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off



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Monday, June 28, 2010 10:43 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Now isn't the time for discussing the setting up of funds....it's time to DO something, goddammit!!

I want the A Whale to start cleaning up the mess, yesterday.

Screw BP for not signing it to a contract yet

Screw Obama for dicking around and not getting this vessel into service WEEKS ago !!!!

No skimmers in sight as oil floods into Mississippi waters

6/27/10

GULFPORT, Miss. — A morning flight over the Mississippi Sound showed long, wide ribbons of orange-colored oil for as far as the eye could see and acres of both heavy and light sheen moving into the Sound between the barrier islands. What was missing was any sign of skimming operations from Horn Island to Pass Christian. U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor got off the flight angry. "It’s criminal what’s going on out there," Taylor said minutes later. "This doesn’t have to happen.” A scientist onboard, Mike Carron with the Northern Gulf Institute, said with this scenario,there will be oil on the beaches of the mainland.

“There’s oil in the Sound and there was no skimming,” Carron said. “No coordinated effort.”

NOTHING IS BEING DONE!! HOW ISN"T THIS GROSS INCOMPETENCE OR BEING DONE ON PURPOSE ???





Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/26/96608/no-skimmers-in-sight-as-oi
l-floods.html#ixzz0sBRqjQ00


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Monday, June 28, 2010 12:42 PM

DREAMTROVE




WTF? Globalist authority from the G20, opportunistically using this oil spill to dig in its claws. No. That's not a good idea.


What Rap said. 110%.

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Monday, June 28, 2010 4:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Now isn't the time for discussing the setting up of funds....it's time to DO something, goddammit!!

I want the A Whale to start cleaning up the mess, yesterday.

Screw BP for not signing it to a contract yet

Screw Obama for dicking around and not getting this vessel into service WEEKS ago !!!!





Funny you should bring Obama into it, and blame him for the fact that this ship in its current form apparently didn't even exist weeks ago, and was just fitted into this configuration, JUST tested off Portugal, and JUST sailed across the ocean, and is NOW on its way to the Gulf.

You seem to have this idea that supertankers just magically materialize wherever they're needed or wanted, and don't have to sail to their destinations, often on trips that can takes weeks, if not months. Also, reconfiguring an entire ship into a type never before extant takes a bit of time, too. I know you think Obama is some kind of messiah, or "The One", but I have to break it to you that he really doesn't have the power to levitate gigantic ships across the space-time continuum with a wave of his hand. You keep ascribing him magical powers that he simply does not have.

NOW, while they're on the way to the Gulf, the administration needs to sign a waiver of the Jones Act, and the EPA needs to sign off on the ship's mission, so that it can get to work. Meanwhile, the rest of the world waits to see whether this will work; if it does, count on a new class of ship coming into existence. And if it doesn't, you'll blame Obama anyway.

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Massive oil-skimming ship makes stop in Norfolk

Ten stories tall and nearly four football fields long, the world's largest oil skimmer dropped anchor Friday in Norfolk, on its way to the Gulf of Mexico and a possible bout with the biggest oil spill in U.S. history.
Before the floating behemoth can wage war, though, its billionaire owner has a few hurdles to jump, including one key question: Will it even work?
Nobu Su, the CEO and founder of TMT Group, a Taiwanese shipping company, described the engineering behind his latest creation as "totally not common sense and totally against the rules."
Speaking in shirt sleeves and a blue baseball cap on the docks of Norfolk International Terminals, Su was referring to the special holes he had cut into the sides of his massive vessel, named A Whale.
As designed, the giant skimmer would roll across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass," Su said, ingesting millions of gallons of oily water through the small slits.
The tainted water would then fall into huge storage tanks in the belly of the ship. There, oil would separate from sea water. The toxic stuff would be collected and disposed of, the water returned to the Gulf.
"A large-scale disaster needs a large-scale solution," Su told a crowd of reporters, shipping executives and regulators.
A Whale could handle 500,000 barrels of oily water a day, or slightly less than what all the skimmers now in the Gulf have gathered in more than 60 days on the job, Su said.
A no-brainer? Not quite.
Because the vessel is Taiwanese and was built in South Korea, it needs an exemption from the Jones Act, a federal law requiring commercial ships doing business in U.S. coastal waters to be American-flagged.
Then there are environmental concerns. Because the ship would discharge water back into the Gulf, albeit after much of the oil had been skimmed away, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency must go along with the deal.
Compounding the problem is that A Whale has never actually processed oily water before - though it did pass a recent test in Portugal, where a foaming agent was sucked into the ship's bowels at sea and "did quite nicely," said Bob Grantham, an executive with TMT Group.
Gov. Bob McDonnell's administration supports the experiment and hopes A Whale is granted all necessary approvals "to see if it works," said Matt Strader, state assistant secretary of transportation.
TMT Group has hired a Washington lobbying firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, to help negotiate a work plan with federal regulators and to create public pressure in favor of A Whale.
One reason the ship came to Norfolk was so the Coast Guard could get a good look at it. TMT held a briefing for Coast Guard officials on Thursday, and a few Coast Guard officers attended the media event Friday.
Also attending the event was Ed Overton, a professor emeritus of environmental sciences at Louisiana State University. TMT flew Overton to Norfolk to get a personal look at the mega-skimmer.
"Bureaucracy shouldn't stand in the way of cleaning up our coastline," Overton said. "We need help. So I encourage them to just go down there and not take no for an answer. I mean, seriously, how can it hurt?"
Ironically, the ship was originally built as a supertanker for oil. But soon afterward, the BP oil spill began off the Louisiana coast, and Su saw an opportunity.
He sailed the ship to Portugal for modifications, turning A Whale into an oil skimmer that "drinks seawater," Su said.
Su has spent "many millions" on the project, said Frank Maisano, a spokesman, and would "pretty much like to recover his costs."
The shipping magnate has not talked to BP yet and is not sure who would pay his expenses, assuming A Whale is approved for the work.
Still, the ship was expected to leave Norfolk Friday night, arriving at ground zero in the Gulf within three days.

scott.harper@pilotonline.com]

http://www.norfolk.com/2010/06/massive-oilskimming-ship-makes-stop-nor
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