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Why is the right putting up so many crazy candidates?

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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:40 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


It's almost as tho' they're like the Damns, snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, as it were. They seemed to be on the cusp of gaining so many seats, yet some of the people they're putting up just make one laugh.

Take Pamela Gorman from Arizona. I won’t put up the only video I can find of her ad, because it’s Keith Olbermann (it’s been removed from YouTube and linked to a site my Norton says is dangerous), but it’s pretty amazing. It shows nothing of her but her shooting guns...four different ones, including a semi-automatic, and the voiceover talks about how she’s voted “100% by the NRA”, “a Conservative Christian who’s a pretty fair shot”, “she’s right on target”, “she can take care of herself”, “the caliber of our candidates”. It’s funny as hell, but what does any of that have to do with her qualifications for office? Or is it just that being good with a gun is enough for Arizonans these days to put you in Congress???

We all remember The Chicken Lady out here in Nevada, who’s comments sunk her campaign and let Sharon Angle win the primary. They were absolutely DROOLING to take down Harry Reid; now Reid is drooling about Angle and the GOP is distancing themselves.

Angle turns out to be even MORE the gift that gives on giving than Lowden. We already know her stances on a few things (like doing away with the EPA and Dept. of Education; the massage program for prisoners she backed from Scientology). But it gets even better. She doesn’t believe there are ever ANY circumstances where abortion should be allowed, not rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. Her reasoning? “Got has a plan”. So it’s God’s plan if you get raped, and God’s plan if mother and daughter both die, when one could be saved.

She is also in favor of that recent killing of the extension of unemployment benefits, saying we’ve got so many entitlements that we’ve “spoiled our citizenry” so much that they say they “don’t want the jobs that are out there”. ...lazy slobs should go out there and get one of those jobs that isn’t there these days, yes sirree!


This one is from Countdown, but it’s not Olbermann:



Since her first interview and stuff came out about her, she’s been hiding from ANY interviews other than by conservative shows. I guess she “got it”, just as Rand Paul did—remember HIM and how he ran for cover after reporters challenged him? It began with an interview with the editorial board of the Louisville Courier Journal, and ended with his dodging questions on the Rachel Maddow show (the very show where he announced his candidacy):


And here’s his “explanation” of what happened and his views:



There was also Carly Fiorina’s “sheep ad”:



and Rick Barber, the Tea Party candidate running in Alabama, who did his ad talking to some guys dressed up as Founding Fathers:



Here’s his latest:



A pundit in the Countdown clip says he thinks these candidates have been talking for so long with their Tea Party groups that it’s made them feel safe because they haven’t had to talk to the country at large or answer hard questions. I think he’s right. What comes of novices trying to enter the difficult political arena, maybe?

Just truly astonishing! Whether red or blue, I want THINKING, intelligent people in the Congress, not nutwings who want to put on shows rather than give any reasons they would be good legislators.

Like I say, with candidates like these, it seems like the Repubs are setting themselves UP for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory! I almost feel sorry for the GOP. Almost.

You know what I love? John McCain’s MOTHER about Limbaugh! She’s fantastic, and sounds much more reasonable than any of those Tea Party candidates who keep talking insanity and tripping over their own words. Catch the beginning of this; I know now where McCain got his "maverick" parts, which he now denounced, unfortunately:




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nothing could be crazier than the bunch of Dems who are destroying - quite literally - our country now.

Nothing.







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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing could be crazier than the bunch of Dems who are destroying - quite literally - our country now.

Nothing.

Except for the Repubs who destroyed it for almost a decade, and are begging for a chance to finish the job, that is.

Just cause I am pissed at the assholes capitalizing on and exploiting the damage, doesn't mean I am fool enough to hand the reins back to the folks who *did* the damage in the first place, oh hell no.

Doesn't mean I like the fuckin Dems neither.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The GOP saved it, ( Bush's tax cuts ) if anything, rather than destroyed it.

Funny, but in your world, 10% unemployment is 'saving' the country, while 5.0 % unemployment is destroying it.

Wow.

The fools who created the economic crisis, for the most part, are Dodd, Frank and the Democrats. Wiling accomplices, some GOP were, but by a very large part, their crime was looking the other way while the Dems chuck the stick of dynamite under the hood and walked away.




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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The GOP saved it, ( Bush's tax cuts ) if anything, rather than destroyed it.

Funny, but in your world, 10% unemployment is 'saving' the country, while 5.0 % unemployment is destroying it.

Wow.

The fools who created the economic crisis, for the most part, are Dodd, Frank and the Democrats. Wiling accomplices, some GOP were, but by a very large part, their crime was looking the other way while the Dems chuck the stick of dynamite under the hood and walked away.




Hell, why not just go back to blaming Clinton and Carter for everything like you always do? You never did explain how Chris Dodd and Barney Frank managed to write and pass the laws while the Republicans were in the majority, held both houses of Congress AND the White House, and held all the chairmanship positions in every committee in Congress.

Bush's tax cuts for the ultra-rich cost the country over a trillion dollars, every penny of which went straight onto the national debt; the Medicare Part D debacle of his added another several trillion to the debt as well.

By your own words, Obama and the Dems are now REALLY saving the country!

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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:06 PM

DREAMTROVE


Nikita

Tea party. That would be the answer to your question.

As for the blame game, it's wrong for everyone. You know my limit, is as it has been, eighteen months. After twelve, everyone has to take ownership of their own problems. Real peace candidates can end the wars they inherit in a lot less than a year. In eighteen months you can even turn a bad economy around.


Anyway, I see nothing wrong with this picture, other than that our entire system of govt has fallen apart. Sometimes I think Jan brewer has the right idea. I disagree with the issue, but throwing grenades into the system and split off your own private fiefdom might be the best way to go now.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 1:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


DT: Yes. Obama's had enough time now that if he WANTED out of Iraq and AfPakistanistan, we'd be at the very least on our WAY out of those hellholes. He doesn't; we aren't. In fact, according to the NYT, we're actually paying the people we're fighting, apparently so we can continue fighting them, forever. This is apparently nothing new; I've heard horror stories about Reagan doing the same in Beirut, in the months immediately preceding the barracks bombing there.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:06 AM

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Since when is shooting guns crazy? She is showing her personal side. The voters already know her and she has issue ads already.....but you know this.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 3:48 AM

DREAMTROVE


Mike,

Yes, that pretty much nails it.though I might say that were paying people who ARE fighting us, not paying them TO fight us. The latter while possible, isn't necessary. It may be just a case of us not being able to tell who is on our side, and the people we hired yesterday changing their mind about being on our side. In such a situation we could stop arming people, but if we do that, then they can't fight for our cause and we'd much rather have afghans dying for our cause than Americans, cause Americans dying is not popular.

It would seem that the global nwo is he'll bent on defeating Islam because it doesn't own it, the Israelis don't like it and so all the moneyed elite and religious nut jobs can whine, and that given that, their task is infinite, and given an infinite task, there would be no need to intentionally prolong the war in pen part of the muslim world just to make war, since there are a billion Muslims out there.

Another possibility is thAt the power that be are not so powerful after all, and their ability to conquer and capture land is pretty limited. Right now the plan seems to be to take the next year to conquer Kandahar, and I have just this sneaking suspicion that were going to lose anyway. Thatbeing the case, we might as well skip the battle for Kandahar, come home, and devote some of those resources here, to our many growing problems.



To the original thread topic, I actually like the new brand of tea party republican better than the outgoing neocon elite. They're like a corrupt version of libertarian, and if it weren't corrupt, it would never get elected, so I can accept some corruption. The thing I don't want to see is more support for environment destruction.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:32 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello Niki,

I think these people are figuring out who their target audience is, and it's not you. If they can motivate a small core of active voters, they have a chance to win. They can discount the Democratic vote right out of the starting gate, and the moderates often don't get excited enough to vote for non-presidential elections.

And so that leaves them to stir up thin slices of the American pie for maximum interest and impact. Simple messages, too. "I will protect your gun rights" or "I will lower taxes."

I do wish I owned a Thompson like the one pictured in the Gorman ad, though. Bloody expensive, especially the full-auto versions. About $175 when they first came out, now priced at $2,000. That's inflation, I guess.

--Anthony

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KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Since when is shooting guns crazy?



I fully support gun rights.



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Thursday, July 1, 2010 5:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
The GOP saved it, ( Bush's tax cuts ) if anything, rather than destroyed it.
Yep. You can always count on rappy for crazy-talk. You and facts rarely even share a county together, much less a room!

If you recall.... painful tho it may be... Clinton left the Treasury with a surplus, and the economy was doing OK: unemployment and inflation were both down,

Bush's tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy reduced Federal revenues (please don't make me post the table of Federal revenues from 1950 to 2008 again) at exactly the same time he increased spending (can you say Iraq War and Medicare Part D? SURE YA CAN!)

And the resulting huge inequity in wealth set the stage for irresponsible lending/ borrowing, and the Big Crash... as it has done since the 1700's. So the house of cards started toppling in August, under BUSH'S watch and because of BUSH'S policies. Yep, it took four years of careful and persistent work, but "trickle down" finally took full effect.

One day soon, rappy, i hope you will see that most of that you believe was mistaken. Sincere, and heartfelt, but still a big, terrible mistake.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:04 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Wow.

Rick Barber is AWESOME. (Or at least those 2 ads are).


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:13 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:
Nothing could be crazier than the bunch of Dems who are destroying - quite literally - our country now.
Nothing!? What an amazingly ignorant statement! And
Quote:
The GOP saved it, ( Bush's tax cuts ) if anything, rather than destroyed it.


Now I KNOW you’re just trolling to get a rise with your , Crappy. Nobody’s that stupid...although...

Yeah, DT, I know it’s the TPers...I think all of those candidates hail from there. Which is why I wonder if it’s not ideological neophytes...they’ve actually stated that it’s more important to them to win a primary than elect candidates who can win in a General a couple of times. What a weird mentality! Unfortunately, bad as it was, the recent developments make me agree: “our entire system of govt has fallen apart”. Been doing so for decades, I know, but this is truly pathetic.

From past observation, DT, you can be SURE any of these people, should they get in (anyone taking bets?) will be anti-environment. After all, god/the founding fathers GAVE us this land to rape and pillage, so we’re supposed to go for it, right? And capitalism can do no wrong, doesn’t need regulation, and we don’t need protection from it, right? The mentality has been clearly expressed and, given what we saw Dumbya do to the environment in his time, you can BET they’d double it, given the chance. I doubt they will be, tho’. They’re not appealing to the general electorate.

Oh Kanegirl, silly gel. No, I didn’t know she had issue ads, or I would have mentioned it. But this is just a play to the gunbunnies and the current mentality arising in Arizona, nothing else, and makes her look like an idiot. Why does she need to stand there shooting, and shooting FOUR GUNS even? We have no idea if she hit anything, or even if she’s familiar with guns...watch her flinch! It’s just “I’ve got a gun, ain’t I cute?” bullcrap. I know she’s exactly what makes you drool, but that doesn’t make it less idiotic.

Yeah, Sig, such a space waster...it’s a shame. Something about "oxygen steale" someone once mentioned...?


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:58 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Heres an idea.

Maybe they arn't crazy.

Maybe their ideas are based in the belief that mankind should be free.

Whats crazy is folks who think THAT idea is crazy.

Then again, we are living in the time of those that want government to be parental figures.


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:01 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Wow.

Rick Barber is AWESOME. (Or at least those 2 ads are).




Yeah, especially that one where the Alabaman is begging LINCOLN for help. That IS awesome.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:02 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


"Yeah, especially that one where the Alabaman is begging LINCOLN for help. That IS awesome."

I would say that you should go and rewatch that video.


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:27 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


No need to rewatch, boy - in one vid, he's talking about "gathering your armies", and in the next, he's claiming that all taxation equals slavery. And he's talking to Lincoln about it, the guy who introduced the income tax in the first place.

If all taxation is slavery, why are you in favor of taxation? And if all taxation is slavery, how are you going to "gather your armies"?

You really don't think things through very well, do you? Is that because you lack intelligence and maturity? Shall I dash your head against the rocks for the betterment of the state?

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:29 AM

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"And if all taxation is slavery, how are you going to "gather your armies"?"

Its called a "milita".

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:46 AM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


for your ignorance.


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:52 AM

WULFENSTAR

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I agree Nix.

Poor Kwick needs forgivness for his ignorance.

Its been a rough month.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Wulf, how can you talk about freedom if you're willing to take it up the ass from corporations? Here, have MY share.

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KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"And if all taxation is slavery, how are you going to "gather your armies"?"

Its called a "milita".



How do you pay them? How do you outfit them?

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"How do you pay them? How do you outfit them? "

Well, me and my militia types are already stockpiled in the guns and ammo department.

Plus we have jobs.

AND, it really only takes a few (properly aimed) bullets to determine the course of a war.


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KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I agree Nix.

Poor Kwick needs forgivness for his ignorance.

Its been a rough month.



Yes, I suppose it IS ignorance to assume that you could figure out what was wrong with the same guy using Washington AND Lincoln in his ads. You still don't see the disconnect, do you, dear idiot child?

By the way, look up "forced conscription", and see how Lincoln REALLY felt about slavery.

Bad month? For you, I'd say it's been a bad life.

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KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"How do you pay them? How do you outfit them? "

Well, me and my militia types are already stockpiled in the guns and ammo department.

Plus we have jobs.

AND, it really only takes a few (properly aimed) bullets to determine the course of a war.




Ah, so you only buy ammo once, and never have to replenish, eh?

And your "job" is still going to be there for you while you're off fighting your little war? You think you can do it on your lunch hour?

Are you another one of those chairborne rangers? A sidewalk commando?

Do you have enough food, ammo, guns, and supplies set aside to keep you and your family alive for several years while you fight your little internet insurrection?

Do all your buddies have the same resources at hand?

If not, you're going to need some taxes. And you yourself, just yesterday, argued FOR income taxes for everybody. Are you now backing away from that form or slavery? Are you flip-flopping? (It wouldn't be the first time)

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KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:


AND, it really only takes a few (properly aimed) bullets to determine the course of a war.




How do you figure? Please elaborate.

No amount of "properly aimed" bullets seemed to determine the course of the Civil War, unless by "properly aimed" you mean to say "aimed at every piece of rebel scum". Heck, the President was assassinated, and THAT didn't alter the outcome of the war, except to inflict even greater humiliation upon the rebel scum.

"Properly aimed" bullets STARTED World War I. And "properly aimed" bombs by the Japanese started our full-scale entry into WWII. They didn't "determine the course of the war", though. Generally speaking, those "properly aimed" projectiles seem to have had a devastating effect on the LOSING side of the war.

So are you saying you're in a big rush to be a loser? If so, you've arrived.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:10 AM

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Rebel scum? Seriously? Here? Really?

You voluntarily align yourself with the Empire/Alliance?

Well. Thats cool.

For me, Ill be a BrownCoat, part of the Rebellion.

Rebel scum... good lord. You pick THAT insult? Of all the things you could have said, that?

Dude.

Chill.

Your brain is burning out.

lol

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:14 AM

BYTEMITE


Based on the current approval rating of the prez and congress, I think predictions aren't wrong there's going to be a swingback that Republicans will get back in office. Two party system and all.

I have no problem with crazy, but these guys aren't actually crazy. They're fed a party line and told to toe it, but my impression is they don't actually understand their own platforms or the platforms of their party.

So they're trying to make stuff up they think fits the agenda, but it comes out mostly nonsense. It could be that they're not being as carefully managed as they have in the past, which COULD be a good thing, but I don't want to stake an election of the future or the country on hope without evidence. If any of it's an act, and they're really neo-cons in disguise, we've screwed ourselves again.

I'd like to end the parties, I think that's our best chance right now, because I doubt we'll be able to fix anything with either of these two in office. Vote Independent! Let's be browncoats. :)

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:21 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Rebel scum? Seriously? Here? Really?

You voluntarily align yourself with the Empire/Alliance?

lol



You DO know the difference between reality and a TV show.

Right?


And hey, it's YOUR boy, who YOU'RE defending, who is seeking advice and help from Lincoln, who pretty much coined the term "Rebel scum". Blame Rick Barber, that piece of rebel scum, for bringing Lincoln into it. You think he's awesome, until you actually have to stop and THINK ABOUT IT.

Right?



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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:
So they're trying to make stuff up they think fits the agenda, but it comes out mostly nonsense.
Byte, you nailed it. Kinda sad, but again, I put it down to neophites thinking they can 'speak' to 'the people'--or enough of them to win an election anyway. I think Repubs will get a fair share of seats, but not THESE, and any others that sound as ridiculous.

And yes,he does deserve pity, that poor Wulfwind. As such,

for your fantasies and complete lack of grasp of reality.


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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:27 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


But Niki - Wulfie-boy is ready to FIGHT this war, for as long as it takes. Just as long as it's over by dinner, because his mom is making mac-n-cheese tonight! And then Thundercats is on!

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:32 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Lol I know its been rough.

People are not working, so they have more time to research the issues. Become educated.

Then, they become Tea Party people.

I know, I know. Its been hard for libs lately. People reading, learning about things, starting to mobilize.

Its scary for you.

Shh.

Its ok.

Yes, you are going to lose. Your ideals and ideas are crap. But thats ok.

Let the adults handle this.

You can go back to worshiping Apple, Obama, gun-control, veganism, racism, and progressivism.

Its ok.

See? you can do all that. Just now, you wont be able to push your beliefs on me and everyone else.

hehehe

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:40 AM

MALACHITE


Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
But Niki - Wulfie-boy is ready to FIGHT this war, for as long as it takes. Just as long as it's over by dinner, because his mom is making mac-n-cheese tonight! And then Thundercats is on!


Thunder! Thunder! Thundercats! Hooooo!!!

Anyways, I was thinking about the whole maintaining your own militia thing. My job certainly wouldn't pay enough to research, develop, build and maintain one Apache helicopter... Does Wulf's? If it does, maybe he could put that money to better use by funding us a season 2 of Firefly...

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:52 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Does Wulf's? If it does, maybe he could put that money to better use by funding us a season 2 of Firefly...

I really never got why SyFy didnt pick up Firefly.

Does anyone know? I mean, here WE are like 6 years later....

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:15 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

Lol I know its been rough.

People are not working, so they have more time to research the issues. Become educated.

Then, they become Tea Party people.


So you admit that you tea-baggers are a bunch of bums without jobs?

Quote:

I know, I know. Its been hard for libs lately. People reading, learning about things, starting to mobilize.

Its scary for you.


It is? When your party is putting forth people like John Boehner to tell us that the financial collapse under Bush, which put over 8 million Americans out of work, and which cost us over $17 trillion dollars of retirement funds and wealth that just VANISHED overnight...

When your party is pushing people like Sharon "Obtuse" Angle, who says we're going to privatize and aboloish Social Security (while Boehner says he'll raise the Social Security retirement age to 70, and will decrease benefits, especially to the wealthy), spitting directly in the face of the one voting bloc that NEVER MISSES A VOTE...

When your party tells every Hispanic person in this country, "You are not welcome here; you are not one of us..."

It's getting scary for ME? Really?

Quote:

Shh.

Its ok.

Yes, you are going to lose. Your ideals and ideas are crap. But thats ok.


And, to quote you, what's your solution? What is it? What's your one single answer, the one thing that will magically fix everything?

Quote:

Let the adults handle this.


We already ARE handling this. Go back to playing in your little sandbox.

Quote:

You can go back to worshiping Apple, Obama, gun-control, veganism, racism, and progressivism.


Hmmmmm... How does one explain atheism to one who can't comprehend logic? You know how you only believe in that one single god, and are an atheist towards all the other gods out there, not believing in the existence of any of them, save your one "true" god? Yeah... an atheist just goes you one better. I don't believe in theirs OR yours. Hence, I have no "worship" in me. That's your province, entirely. You worship Bush, Cheney, Kristol, you bow down before your guns, you hold your racism to be your highest family value, and you are firmly AGAINST any efforts at "progress". That sums you up pretty well.

Quote:
Its ok.

See? you can do all that. Just now, you wont be able to push your beliefs on me and everyone else.


Because you'll be busy trying to push YOUR beliefs on everyone else, right? I mean, after all, you DID say once that you wanted to shoot and kill everyone who wouldn't see things your way...

I know - you're just embracing their freedom. To die for your beliefs.


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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
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Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:17 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Does Wulf's? If it does, maybe he could put that money to better use by funding us a season 2 of Firefly...

I really never got why SyFy didnt pick up Firefly.

Does anyone know? I mean, here WE are like 6 years later....



Rights. Apparently, some at Fox still hold to the notion of private ownership of property, and they own the property that is Firefly. Can't take it from them, either - that would be socialism!

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Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
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Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:20 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


To Kwick...

Blahblahblahblah.

Dude, its cool.

I know.

Rough time. The world is changing again (for the better in my opinion)

and its scary and frustrating because you thought you had it right.

You didn't. Its ok tho.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
To Kwick...

Blahblahblahblah.

Dude, its cool.

I know.

Rough time. The world is changing again (for the better in my opinion)

and its scary and frustrating because you thought you had it right.

You didn't. Its ok tho.



Ah - finally we agree on something! The world IS changing for the better! Financial reform, oil regulations, healthcare reform... It's a glorious time to be an American. If we're not careful, one day we might join the rest of the industrialized world in the twenty-first century! (Probabaly not for another 90 years or so, though. )

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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
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Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:55 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


"Ah - finally we agree on something! The world IS changing for the better! Financial reform, oil regulations, healthcare reform... It's a glorious time to be an American. If we're not careful, one day we might join the rest of the industrialized world in the twenty-first century! (Probabaly not for another 90 years or so, though. ) "

lol

You see being a slave as something good. I don't. Thats ok tho.

If/when free-thinking Americans take control of the reigns of government... then you really will see something good.

No. Government wont pay for your healthcare, or regulate business as much as you would like. But as you grow up, you will see the benefits of going your own way.

Its all part of the fun of being an adult.

Don't worry. Youll learn.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"Ah - finally we agree on something! The world IS changing for the better! Financial reform, oil regulations, healthcare reform... It's a glorious time to be an American. If we're not careful, one day we might join the rest of the industrialized world in the twenty-first century! (Probabaly not for another 90 years or so, though. ) "

lol

You see being a slave as something good. I don't. Thats ok tho.


That's why you work for a corporation, after all! So you won't be a "slave"!


Quote:

If/when free-thinking Americans take control of the reigns of government... then you really will see something good.


If you knew how to spell, you'd realize how inadvertently hilarious that statement is. :)

Quote:

No. Government wont pay for your healthcare, or regulate business as much as you would like. But as you grow up, you will see the benefits of going your own way.


Here's one of the benefits of which you speak:



Quote:

Its all part of the fun of being an adult.


So are hemorrhoids, I hear. I doubt you'll ever have to worry about that, though, being as you're a perfect asshole. :)

Quote:

Don't worry. Youll learn.


Sadly, I doubt you ever will.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:02 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Does Wulf's? If it does, maybe he could put that money to better use by funding us a season 2 of Firefly...

I really never got why SyFy didnt pick up Firefly.

Does anyone know? I mean, here WE are like 6 years later....



Rights. Apparently, some at Fox still hold to the notion of private ownership of property, and they own the property that is Firefly. Can't take it from them, either - that would be socialism!



Well... I just figured that with enough money, someone (Universal or Fox) would sell/agree to allow more (and take a cut of the profits, of course) firefly/serenity stuff... Looks like we're stuck with the Apaches, then... Doesn't matter anyway...

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:06 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


for being such a

We all get it, truly we do, and it's only Mike you'll get head up about your stupid comments.

On the other hand, so I'll be concise in responding to your brainless words:
Quote:
People are not working, so they have more time to research the issues.
Ahhh, so as Mike said, you agree with Angle, that we’ve “spoiled” the citizenry, so those people aren’t willing to go out and get jobs?

I hate to tell you, but just like you, they’re lapping up the pablum of FauxNews, not even trying to self-educate. Otherwise they wouldn’t be bitching about “more taxes” despite the fact that Obama CUT taxes, or holding gun rallies in state parks that Obama JUST made legal for one to carry a gun in. Sorry, but it’s manipulated ignorance that’s motivating them, nothing else.

Hasn’t been scary or hard, dear, it’s been wonderful to be out from under a dictator and his apprentice (you’ll have to guess which one I mean) and see our government be able to TRY to get back on track. Humorous and head-shaking to see how the Repubs and Tea Partiers behave, but nothing more.
Quote:
Yes, you are going to lose
Oops, you missed it; we already DID.

“You can go back to worshiping violence, Big Oil, deregulation, tax cuts for the rich out of your own pocket, racism, Dumbya, Darth and the funnier-than-hell Tea Party candidates who will be trounced in November.”

“See? you can do all that. Just now, now that Dumbya’s gone, you wont be able to push your beliefs on me and everyone else.”

Hee, hee, hee, damned STRAIGHT “The world is changing again (for the better in my opinion)”—not nearly enough yet, but at least people woke up and ran like hell from the neocons efforts to take away our civil rights completely, and we’re not still hemorrhaging jobs. Maybe now that it’s changed, we can go UP instead of DOWN.

“and its scary and frustrating because you thought you and Dumbya had it right. You didn't. Its ok tho.”



That was almost fun enough to forget about being concise...

As to the perpetual calling of others children, you said it yourself: “I'm always amused when the petulant little children pretend they're on the moral high ground and call others petulant children.”

You can stick your fingers in your ears and cry “blah blah blah”, but in actuality, you’re the one giving out with the consisting of nothing but fullisades of jerkass rhetoric.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
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Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:11 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Mal, with enough money, someone COULD. Question is, for Fox, what constitutes "enough"? And how much control would they relinquish? Say I offered them $50 million for the rights to relight the Firefly - they say, "Sure, but we hold onto the syndication rights!" Damn, that sucks. Syndication is where the real money is, if a show can make it that long to get into syndication. But I'm desperate, so I agree. "Okay, you've got it," says FoxExec #1, "Oh... and we're going to be holding onto the licensing and product rights, too." Fuck. There go the Firefly toys and action figures, the Firefly sheets and Xmas ornaments, etc. "Well," says I, "if you must. I just want the show back on the air." "Sure thing," says Exec Numero Dos, "we completely agree, it's a great brand. That's why we're keeping the digital rights - DVD, Blu-Ray, iTunes, any kind of digital copies of the show that can be sold, we own all those." Christ, there's just no way I'm EVER going to get any money out of this deal, is there? "Nope," says Exec Number Three, "But we wish you all the success in the world and best of luck to you. We're all counting on you!"

And that's pretty much how those meetings go, I'll wager. All for them, none for you, and thanks for playing.

Seriously, at some level, corporate execs have to have the ability to look as SOME money in one hand, versus NO money in the other hand, and gladly pick the hand with NO money in it. They'd rather have nothing than have you pay them less than they want. And they'd rather destroy a property outright than risk someone ELSE making a nickel off it.

Sad story, but all too true.

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, Niki - I wasn't "head up" about the Wulfchild at all. I was having a hard time typing a response to him, because I was laughing so hard. Wulfie amuses me to no end; he's like Rappy's retarded brother. Which makes him exactly like Rappy.

I do love when he completely forgets who he's talking to, and assigns his favorite bogeyman, gun control, to ME of all people! That cracks me up every time. Sorry to disappoint, Wulfie, but in my world, the best gun control is a steady hand, and "gun control" in these parts means hitting what you aimed at!

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Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I know, it's just that usually I won't take the time to respond to all his silliness, and you will. I did adore the "perfect asshole" thing, tho', the double entendre was a goodie.

Didn't catch the gun thing, that IS amusing. But hey, when you live in a world where anyone who disagrees with you is the enemy, they MUST, by "reason", have all the attributes of every other enemy, mustn't they? Works for him.


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