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King Of All Londinium ; Plus A Lot Of Shiny Coin

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UPDATED: Friday, July 9, 2010 11:37
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Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:42 AM

'...The coins were buried in a large jar about a foot (30 centimeters) deep and weighed about 160 kilograms (350 pounds) in all.'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100708/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_roman_coins

Roman coin hoard found, the weight of two men

"...A metal detector enthusiast has unearthed the second largest haul of Roman coins ever found in Britain, little over a year after the discovery of the 'Staffordshire Hoard'."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/7879099/Roman-coin-hoard-found-the-
weight-of-two-men.html

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:48 AM

AGENTROUKA

Give the man a medal for doing the right thing and calling the experts! I love a responsible treasure hunter. Go, archeology!

Um. So the British had their own Roman emperor, eh?

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:48 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I hope the treasure hunter is allowed to profit from his discovery, even as we all profit from the history unveiled.

--Anthony

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:54 AM

KIRKULES

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I hope the treasure hunter is allowed to profit from his discovery, even as we all profit from the history unveiled.

--Anthony

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I believe roman coins are not uncommon(check Ebay),so they probably aren't worth much to archaeologists. Knowing the location they were found, now that's the treasure.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:25 PM

DREAMTROVE

Never admit to having found anything, or the "experts" will swoop in to claim it. No, I doubt he'll see a dime, it undoubtedly all belongs to the crown now.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:58 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Never admit to having found anything, or the "experts" will swoop in to claim it. No, I doubt he'll see a dime, it undoubtedly all belongs to the crown now.

You know , that's the first impulse , but IIRC , with the big hoard found last year , the finder was allowed half.

'Course , with the confiscatory taxes , lemme do the math here : Nuthin' into nuthin' , carry the nuthin'...

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 3:40 PM

DREAMTROVE

In Britain?

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:53 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Yup.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 9:30 PM

AGENTROUKA

Maybe, just maybe, the guy wasn't in it for the money?

Maybe, just maybe, he respects his own country enough not to destroy an archeological find by digging it up destructively and messing up all the clues as to how it was buried - just to squeeze some monetary value out of the find?

I fond this attitude kind of sad, really.

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Friday, July 9, 2010 7:27 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Maybe, just maybe, the guy wasn't in it for the money?

Maybe, just maybe, he respects his own country enough not to destroy an archeological find by digging it up destructively and messing up all the clues as to how it was buried - just to squeeze some monetary value out of the find?

I fond this attitude kind of sad, really.

What attitude are you fond of calling sad , now ?

What is it you are going on whinging about ?

The dude was a treasure hunter , get it ? He was carrying a metal detector , right ?

I'm guessing he wasn't out looking for a Muslim with a bomb in his underpants , but rather , some TREASURE , permaybehaps ?

According to your estimation , he did the 'right thing' , so what's your beef ?

If not for this treasure hunter , those coin would still be moldering into dust for probably centuries more , so why begrudge him a few quid for his effort ?

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Friday, July 9, 2010 7:34 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/you-wait-ages-to-fin
d-one-hoard-of-gold-coins-2022198.html

'You wait ages to find one hoard of gold coins...'

'...A coroner is set to declare the find a treasure trove at an inquest on 22 July, paving the way for Somerset County Council to buy it from Mr Crisp and the landowner. Each is entitled to a 50 per cent share of its value under the Portable Antiquities Scheme. Its worth is not yet known.

Mr Crisp's discovery is only slightly smaller than the largest ever British Roman coin hoard, of 54,912 pieces, found in two pots near Marlborough, in 1978. A selection of the Frome coins, found in April, is to go on display at the British Museum from 22 July.

The largest ever hoard of Anglo-Saxon gold was found last year in Staffordshire in a farm field by Terry Herbert, an amateur metal detector who lived alone on disability benefit. It was valued at £3.3m, containing more than 5kg (11lb) of gold and 1.3kg (2.9lb) of silver.'

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Friday, July 9, 2010 7:44 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

Um. So the British had their own Roman emperor, eh?

Yep. No duh. Didn't you ever watch ROAR ?

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Friday, July 9, 2010 11:01 AM

AGENTROUKA

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
What attitude are you fond of calling sad , now ?

What is it you are going on whinging about ?

1) Gee, watch your tone. No reason to be rude.

2) DT's attitude is kinda sad. "Never admit to having found anything." "Don't call the experts." THAT is sad. Because it's exactly that which destroys archeological treasures.

People who don't respect what they find should stay away from treasure hunting.

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The dude was a treasure hunter , get it ? He was carrying a metal detector , right ?

I'm guessing he wasn't out looking for a Muslim with a bomb in his underpants , but rather , some TREASURE , permaybehaps ?

According to your estimation , he did the 'right thing' , so what's your beef ?

My beef is with the people who criticize him for doing the right thing, who encourage the destruction of archeological artefacts and their circumstances for the sake of greed.

I have absolutely no idea what motivated you to bring terrorists into this.

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If not for this treasure hunter , those coin would still be moldering into dust for probably centuries more , so why begrudge him a few quid for his effort ?

I'm not begrudging him anything. He deserves the compensation. You obviously completely misread my post and decided to vent at me. For some reason.

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Friday, July 9, 2010 11:16 AM

DREAMTROVE

Think about it: Whatever you find, they will take, if they know you have it.

I have no idea why they are custodians of history. Anyone can do the historical research, and museums have far more stock than they can ever put out. The limitation is not the historical artifacts, it's crowd management. So yes, sure, in theory it should be there for more people to enjoy. Realistically, it will have more people enjoying it in your home. As for the information, you can blog about it later. Just don't sit their off the coast of Great Britain and say "Hey, I found a billion bucks in silver, can I keep it?"

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Friday, July 9, 2010 11:37 AM

AGENTROUKA

Except it begins with digging up, documenting and cataloguing, responsibly and scientifically. It continues with sharing that information widely and in a high academic standard, not on some blog with no peer review. Research is what it all revolves around, and preservation. Not just showing it around some people visiting.

Idiot treasure hunters nearly destroyed the Nebra skydisk in 1999 and they certainly disturbed the place where it was originally buried, making it rather difficult to properly draw conclusions. This was a significant find and it was through luck that they managed to catch them trying to sell it, bigger luck that the collection of artefacts was not sold off separately.

Artefacts in a museum or state-owned institution are available for study to pretty much anyone qualified. Privately owned and kept, access and information is much more limited. Research and potential insight are hampered quite a bit.

The very smallest minority of treasure hunters would be able to treat an important find with the required know-how and resources, or even judge what kind of find might be significant and what not. So I'm quite fine with requiring by law that every find is protected through ownership of the state and guaranteed to receive proper care - with the in-built monetary recompense for the finder, even if it's "only" a part of the estimated value.

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