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Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:47 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Congrats on making it that far in your civil union.
Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:05 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:14 AM
Quote:Sorry, but being gay doesnt buy you special compensation
Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:57 AM
Quote: Have you cowards forgotten what makes us Americans?
Quote: Indian Wars occurred in every Presidency up to the 20th Century. Many were the results of broken treaties.They will not be counted. Franco-American Naval War(Quasi War): John Adams, Federalist(Ancestor Party of the Republicans First Barbary War: Thomas Jefferson, Democratic-Republican(Ancestor Party of the Democrats); Tripolitians ransomed American Sailors and tried to blackmail US. When the US refused the Pasha(equivalent to king) declared war. Second Barbary War and War of 1812: James Madison, Democratic-Republican; Second Barbary War began the same way as the first only with the Bey of Algiers declaring war. While the War of 1812 can be argued as being a war about sailor's rights, the real motive was Canada. Mexican-American War: James K. Polk, Democratic; The Republic of Texas had a claim to Land between the Rio Grand and San Antionio(which the US inherited), which was not valid. Polk sent troops to the territory to protect it and the Mexican government sent troops to drive it out. American Civil War: Abraham Lincoln, Republican; First fought to preserve the Union(the right to secede is still debated to this day) later to end slavery. Korea(1876); Ulysses S. Grant, Republican. Spanish-American War and Phillipine Insurrection: William McKinley, Republican; American Naval Ship Maine sent to monitor alleged mistreatment of the civilians of Cuba and protect American economic interests. The ship was destroyed and the press (the real instigators of the war)of the time placed the now doubtful blame on the Spanish. US fought the war to free Cuba. McKinley announced that giving the Filipinos Independence outright would be like simply handing them over the Germans or Japanese(because of the geographic position) and harm American economic Interests. Haiti; Vera Cruz occupation, Pancho Villa, World War I: Woodrow Wilson, Democratic; Troops were sent in to stabilize Haiti, Vera Cruz was occupied to prevent ships from Germany delivering guns to the government. Pancho Villa made several attacks on Americans(because he was not recognized as President of Mexico) forcing Wilson to send troops to capture Villa. WWI involvement was the result of Germany violating Neutrality rights. Nicaragua: Calvin Coolidge, Republican; Like Haiti the objective was stabilization. World War II: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Democratic; Asked for declaration of war after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Germany and Italy declared war two days later. Korean war (1950-54): Harry S. Truman, Democrat; North Korea, in violation of a UN treaty, invaded South Korea. Troops were sent to contain communism. Vietnam War: Lyndon B. Johnson, Democratic; involvement started after two American gunboats were attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin(the reports have now been proven falsified.). Grenada: Ronald Reagan, Republican; When a Communist government took over the country, it persecuted the American college students studying there. Panama, Persian Gulf War Operation Restoring Freedom: George HW Bush, Republican; Noriega, leader of Panama was charged with drug traffickingand through Noriega's power, Panama would declare war(Though retaining the Canal is alleged to be the real motive). Persian Gulf War was fought to Liberate Kuwait from Iraq and protect Saudi Arabia from an Invasion(also to protect oil interests). Troops were sent to Somalia to assist in the feeding the hungry after guerrillas shot up UN aid convoys. Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq: Bill Clinton, Democratic Party; troops were sent to Bosnia to enforce peacekeeping. Yugoslavia was attacked over genocide upon the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Air assaults were done upon Iraq after it failed to comply with UN weapons inspectors. Afghanistan and Iraq: George W. Bush, Republican; Invasion of Afghanistan was the result of the Taliban ruled government's refusal to hand over Osama bin Laden. Iraq's invasion is still under debate. Final Score: Democrats: 16 Republicans: 10
Quote:Marriage is a unique legal status conferred by and recognized by governments all over the world. It brings with it a host of reciprocal obligations, rights and protections. It is also a cultural institution. No other word has that power and no other status can provide that protection. Married couples have 1,138 federal rights, protections and responsibilities such as: •Social Security benefits upon death, disability or retirement of spouse, as well as benefits for minor children. •Family and Medical Leave protections to care for a new child or a sick or injured family member •Workers' Compensation protections for the family of a worker injured on the job •Access to COBRA insurance benefits so the family doesn't lose health insurance when one spouse is laid off •ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act) protections such as the ability to leave a pension, other than Social Security, to your spouse •Exemptions from penalties on IRA and pension rollovers •Exemptions from estate taxes when a spouse dies •Exemptions from federal income taxes on spouse's health insurance •The right to visit a sick or injured loved one, have a say in life and death matters during hospitalization. What is a civil union? A civil union is a legal status granted by a state. The State of Vermont created civil unions in 2000. It provides legal protection to couples at the state law level, but omits federal protections, as well as the dignity, clarity, security and power of the word "marriage". Civil unions are different from civil marriage and that difference has wide-ranging implications that make the two institutions unequal, such as: Portability: Marriages are respected state to state for all purposes but questions remain as to how civil unions will be treated in other states. The two appellate courts that have addressed the issue in Connecticut and Georgia have disregarded them based on the fact that their own states do not grant civil unions. Federal Benefits: According to a 1997 General Accounting Office report, civil marriage brings with it at least 1,049 legal protections and responsibilities from the federal government alone. Civil unions bring none of these critical legal protections. Taxes and Public Benefits for the Family: Because the federal government does not respect civil unions, a couple with a civil union will be in a kind of limbo with regard to governmental functions performed by both state and federal governments, such as taxation, pension protections, provision of insurance for families, and means-tested programs like Medicaid. Even when states try to provide legal protections, they may be foreclosed from doing so in joint federal/state programs. Filling Out Forms: Every day we fill out forms that ask us whether we are married, single, divorced or widowed. People joined in a civil union do not fit in any of those categories. People with civil unions should be able to identify themselves as a single family unit yet misrepresenting oneself on official documents can be considered fraud and can carry potential serious criminal penalties. Separate and Unequal—Second Class Status: Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated marriages and civil unions, the fact that a civil union remains a separate status only for gay people represents real and powerful inequality. The United States Constitution requires legal equality for all. Including lesbian and gay couples within existing marriage laws in is the fairest and simplest thing to do. Ending a Civil Union: If you are married, you can get divorced in any state in which you are a resident. But if states continue to disregard civil unions, there is no way to end the relationship other than establishing residency in Vermont and filing for dissolution there. This has already created problems for couples who now have no way to terminate their legal agreement.
Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:53 AM
Quote:I also agree with what you said to Wulf, Sig, but I fear it falls on deaf ears.
Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:46 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:41 PM
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