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James Carville ' The federal Gov't is about to kill us '.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:06 PM

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" The people here have been so let down. The federal government let us down. They're killing the economy here. People in the interior department that issue these things don't have the foggiest idea about life here, they don't have the foggiest idea about what's going on, and they have got to do something about this because the federal government is about to kill us." - James Carville







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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:12 PM

WHOZIT


Isn't the government run by the Democrats? Yes, I belive it is.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Isn't the government run by the Democrats? Yes, I belive it is.



And while Carville may sound like your (stereo)typical southern red neck racist tea bagger, and while he's married to a smart, savvy,conservative babe, he's in reality a deep blue Democrat.

huh? How can that be ?

And he's speaking out against Obama?

Now wait just a minute here! That's not suppose to happen!





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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:27 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Yeah but what JC (no relation) is proposing is the smae thing that all libs/progs want..

the government to come in and fix all their problems.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:33 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Yeah but what JC (no relation) is proposing is the smae thing that all libs/progs want..

the government to come in and fix all their problems.




Did you just call Rappy a libprog? I believe you did!

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:40 PM

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Quote:

James Carville ' The federal Gov't is about to kill us '....


Not even gonna comment, huh?

Naw. Didn't think ya would.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Frankly, in that area of the country, it ain't the federal gubmint you need to worry about killing you; it's the local police!

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Frankly, in that area of the country, it ain't the federal gubmint you need to worry about killing you; it's the local police!



So, Katrina wasn't W's fault?

Glad we agree.






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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:51 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Frankly, in that area of the country, it ain't the federal gubmint you need to worry about killing you; it's the local police!



So, Katrina wasn't W's fault?

Glad we agree.




What, you think anyone here thinks Bush caused a hurricane? Wow, you're dumb.

But I'm glad we agree that the oil spill isn't Obama's fault. Apology accepted!

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


What, you think anyone here thinks Bush caused a hurricane? Wow, you're dumb.

But I'm glad we agree that the oil spill isn't Obama's fault. Apology accepted!



All you Left wing nuts blamed Bush for man made global warming, which isn't real, for Katrina's cat 5 ( cat 3 at land fall ) strength.

And then y'all claim he blew up the levees, which has been proven to be complete nonsense.

But Obama is killing the entire Gulf. Democrat strategist James Carville even said so!

No apology offered, so you can't have accepted one.





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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


What, you think anyone here thinks Bush caused a hurricane? Wow, you're dumb.

But I'm glad we agree that the oil spill isn't Obama's fault. Apology accepted!



All you Left wing nuts blamed Bush for man made global warming, which isn't real, for Katrina's cat 5 ( cat 3 at land fall ) strength.

And then y'all claim he blew up the levees, which has been proven to be complete nonsense.




Well, being as I'm one of those "Left wing nuts", you no doubt have some quotes from me where I've ever claimed any of those things, right?

Right?

Yah. I didn't think so.

Quote:


But Obama is killing the entire Gulf. Democrat strategist James Carville even said so!



So you accept as fact EVERYTHING that Carville says? Really? He also said Gore won the 2000 election. It must be true - James Carville even said so!

This isn't Obama's spill. It isn't his oil well. Far as I know, Obama doesn't own any oil wells.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:15 PM

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Obama said he's in charge.

You speak for ALL the Left ? That's funny.

I'd offer quotes, but what's the point? I've already owned you w/ Obama being " sort of God " clip. That one still stings, huh?

Ouch.






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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You speak for ALL the Left ? That's funny.



Not nearly as funny as your inability to read English. Never said I speak for ALL the left. No need to say so. YOU said, and I quote,

Quote:


All you Left wing nuts blamed Bush for man made global warming, which isn't real, for Katrina's cat 5 ( cat 3 at land fall ) strength.



Now, you said ALL of us said those things. I pointed out that I'm a lefty, and I didn't say those things. I'm sure you'll point out that you didn't know that, or didn't remember, so you're not *really* lying, but we all know you're lying, because it's all you've got.

Quote:


I'd offer quotes, but what's the point?



To prove what you say is true, generally. I understand if you can't provide the quotes, though, since I never said those things. And, of course, because you're lying. No new tale to tell there.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:36 PM

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Nope, again, you're wrong.

But it seems you're such a lonely loser that you'll labor over the most menial of all issues, even this one... sorry. Not gonna play. Go play w/ yourself.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope, again, you're wrong.

But it seems you're such a lonely loser that you'll labor over the most menial of all issues, even this one... sorry. Not gonna play. Go play w/ yourself.





So you've got nothing, in other words. No quotes, no "facts". Just your usual empty lies, backed up by nothing but thin air.

So wrong, for so long.


And I have to ask, how lonely a loser are YOU? I mean, digging around for hours looking for the ONE guy in the "MSM" (I didn't realize teaching Journalism at Princeton was now part of the MSM, but there ya go...) who ISN'T on FauxNews who tried to anoint Obama as a deity.

Menial doesn't begin to cover your act.

And ya know, I didn't say the nobody said that about Obama. Clearly, Fox, the leader of the MSM, says it all the time. What I said was that you're the only one HERE who says that. You really do seem fixated on the guy.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:43 PM

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And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that.


You're so dumb, you have to be told twice.


Which only makes sense, I suppose.





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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that.




Try again. Here's my quote:

Quote:


Be sure to blame Obama for it. And the MSM isn't the one here who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that, consistently. "Messiah", "The One"... you've got all sort of cute pet names for him. Do you practice writing your name for the day you finally become his wife?



Here's the thread.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=44241&m=791256#791256

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:52 PM

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Wow. You need to be told 3 times.


You said the MSM doesn't do that, and I showed you that they specifically did.

Not me, them. The MSM.

I win, you're stupid.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wow. You need to be told 3 times.


You said the MSM doesn't do that, and I showed you that they specifically did.

Not me, them. The MSM.

I win, you're stupid.






Owned again. Kwicko give up......

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:57 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wow. You need to be told 3 times.


You said the MSM doesn't do that, and I showed you that they specifically did.

Not me, them. The MSM.

I win, you're stupid.



You still can't read, can you? Or are you intentionally missing it?

Quote:


Be sure to blame Obama for it. And the MSM isn't the one here who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that, consistently. "Messiah", "The One"... you've got all sort of cute pet names for him. Do you practice writing your name for the day you finally become his wife?



You still don't see it, because you're stupid. Keep trying. Read it 'til your lips get tired, if that's how long it takes.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:59 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I said the MSM isn't the one HERE who does that; that's Rappy, and Rappy alone. He's the only one HERE who consistently refers to Obama as "Messiah" and "The One" and such.

As I've pointed out, it's pretty obvious the MSM does it, because Fox does it all the time, and they ARE the #1 rated in the MSM!

What part of that can't you understand?

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:08 PM

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Kwicko go to bed

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:09 PM

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Are you freaking kidding me, Crappy?
Quote:

All you Left wing nuts blamed Bush for man made global warming, which isn't real, for Katrina's cat 5 ( cat 3 at land fall ) strength.

And then y'all claim he blew up the levees

Who said that? I’ve never seen it here...I don’t blame Dumbya for global warming, I blame our addiction to fossil fuels, among other things. I don’t blame him for Katrina, I blame him for the government’s RESPONSE to Katrina (and yes, I blame Obama’s administration equally for the gulf). WHO claimed he blew up the levees? You’re reading the wrong conspiracy-theory sites, you should stick to the ones on the right. Oh, but wait, OBAMA’s killing the Gulf...single handedly, eh? Well, I guess that explains how you think lefties blame Dumbya personally for stuff. By the way, we don’t. Not for what you claimed.

Interesting you revert to calling refutation of your statements “menial”. Apparently you can’t provide proof and are stuck, so reverting to attacking. By the way, I think you need to check out your use of “menial”. “I don’t think that word means what you think it means”...
Quote:

1 : of or relating to servants : LOWLY
2 a : appropriate to a servant : HUMBLE, SERVILE.

By your use of it, your statements were menial, and I don’t think that’s what you meant...

Just to clarify, Mike said “the MSM isn't the one here who refers to him as "sort of god"”—note the word “here”? You and others here consistently act as if someone ON THIS FORUM considers him a god, messiah, etc., when nobody here has EVER claimed he was any such thing. I understand it’s a technique, a way to try and goad people, but it doesn’t work. Kapishe?


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:10 PM

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:13 PM

NIKI2

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Clip doesn't work; it was a corollary, referring to someone who was not of any one nation. It's obvious he's not calling him a god, "he stands above the world, as sort of god, he's gonna bring all sides together". Biiiig difference.

That aside, it still doesn't back up what was posted. Mike said nobody HERE...here as in on this forum, and you keep trying to turn it around.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:17 PM

KANEMAN





Hey Niki@...Wrong thread

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:21 PM

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kwickie, you're a liar.

You inserted the word "here", when it wasn't there in the first place.

Quote:

And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that.


Your original quote.

Note that the word " here " isn't present, anywhere in the sentence.

Not only are you a liar, but you're a sad one at that.






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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie, you're a liar.

You inserted the word "here", when it wasn't there in the first place.

Not only are you a liar, but you're a sad one at that.




Now THAT is funny. You've already been proven to be a liar, right here in this very thread (as well as a bunch of others). So your entire defense is to throw out the "you're a liar" rap? Really?

Go read the quote. Go back to the original thread. YOU took the word "here" out, just to try to make it fit YOUR agenda. That's so fucking weak and pathetic of you.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:38 PM

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kwickie

Go drink another Lone Star, fatty. You're done here.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie

Go drink another Lone Star, fatty. You're done here.





Can't help ya on that one, fatty. I don't drink Lone Star. It's swill.

And it looks like you're the one who's done here.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:42 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie

Go drink another Lone Star, fatty. You're done here.





Can't help ya on that one, fatty. I don't drink Lone Star. It's swill.

And it looks like you're the one who's done here.



Yeah, Lone Star is too high brow for you, fat man.

I clearly showed you're a liar. Anyone ( like there's any question ) can go look for themselves. You're a liar and a coward.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:54 PM

NIKI2

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Well, nobody can prove it one way or another, which one of you changed the post in question. Either one of you could have gone to the thread and either inserted "here" or taken it out.

But I think I'll choose to believe Mike, since fake e-mails and sickpuppets and other questionable things have come from the other side.

Either way: Neither of you can PROVE the other one is a liar, so how about giving it up, for heaven's sake?



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Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie

Go drink another Lone Star, fatty. You're done here.





Can't help ya on that one, fatty. I don't drink Lone Star. It's swill.

And it looks like you're the one who's done here.



Yeah, Lone Star is too high brow for you, fat man.

I clearly showed you're a liar. Anyone ( like there's any question ) can go look for themselves. You're a liar and a coward.




Actually, I clearly showed YOU'RE a liar. Twice. Once in this thread, once in that one. Anyone who can actually READ can look for themselves; that leaves you out, I'm afraid.

Now run, coward - go find those quotes where I claimed Bush blew up the levees! Dig 'em up! Prove me wrong!

PS: Lone Star is "high brow"? Is that what they tell y'all out in the sticks? That's just so precious! Lone Star is like $2 a six-pack. It's just beneath Milwaukee's Beast and Carling's Black Death!

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:04 PM

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I never claimed YOU said any such thing, nor does it matter.

You changed your quote, there by making you a liar and a coward.

You know you're the one who inserted "here" in that sentence where it wasn't there before.

See ? You know how much Lone Star costs. At least you're admitting it. That's a start. A small step, but an important one.






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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:09 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:Well, nobody can prove it one way or another, which one of you changed the post in question. Either one of you could have gone to the thread and either inserted "here" or taken it out.

But I think I'll choose to believe Mike, since fake e-mails and sickpuppets and other questionable things have come from the other side.

Either way: Neither of you can PROVE the other one is a liar, so how about giving it up, for heaven's sake?



Wow. You sound JUST like the Obama DOJ


" Nothing to see here, move along, might as well drop it... "

The facts are there for all to see, if you're willing to open your eyes.

Kwickie is lying.

Again.

I'm not " the other side ". I'm just me. Niki, you seem to have a problem with discerning between individuals and groups.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Well, nobody can prove it one way or another, which one of you changed the post in question. Either one of you could have gone to the thread and either inserted "here" or taken it out.

But I think I'll choose to believe Mike, since fake e-mails and sickpuppets and other questionable things have come from the other side.

Either way: Neither of you can PROVE the other one is a liar, so how about giving it up, for heaven's sake?



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I'd disagree niki2, Kwicko changed HIS quote. He impeached his own argument. I would add the debate is about nothing important, however a lie is a lie. You can believe kwicko if you want, but that just shows you are biased. So, when you debate anything it will bite you back. Kwicko changed his quote...HE is the liar...Have some ethical standard...

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I never claimed YOU said any such thing, nor does it matter.



Yes, you did. You said "ALL you left wing nuts..." - ALL is an all-encompassing group, of which I am a member. Ergo, you said *I* said those things. The only reason you're saying now that it doesn't matter is because you know you've been caught in a lie. Again.

Quote:


You changed your quote, there by making you a liar and a coward.

You know you're the one who inserted "here" in that sentence where it wasn't there before.



Except I didn't, and you damned well know I didn't. If you're going to accuse me of lying, present some evidence. You don't have any, because there isn't any, because it didn't happen, and you know it. So does your little boyfriend Kaney.



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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not " the other side ". I'm just me. Niki, you seem to have a problem with discerning between individuals and groups.





BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!


Now that IS rich! You, who can't tell between "all" of the left, and me individually, giving lectures about the difference between individuals and groups!

That's awesome. I LOL'd.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:30 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not " the other side ". I'm just me. Niki, you seem to have a problem with discerning between individuals and groups.





BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!


Now that IS rich! You, who can't tell between "all" of the left, and me individually, giving lectures about the difference between individuals and groups!

That's awesome. I LOL'd.



We are all guilty of this....I do not have to go back and get the threads. We all tend to lump....

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:

I'd disagree niki2, Kwicko changed HIS quote. He impeached his own argument. I would add the debate is about nothing important, however a lie is a lie. You can believe kwicko if you want, but that just shows you are biased. So, when you debate anything it will bite you back. Kwicko changed his quote...HE is the liar...Have some ethical standard...



Again, evidence? Proof? Anything? Something like a screen shot? Something to shore up your argument? Something like this?



See, that's Rappy clearly saying that "ALL you Left wing nuts" made these claims about Bush. And I've been asking him for hours now to present some kind of evidence that I ever said any such thing.

Y'all got anything like that? Something that might lend credibility to your case? I've been to this rodeo a few times before, y'know.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not " the other side ". I'm just me. Niki, you seem to have a problem with discerning between individuals and groups.





BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!


Now that IS rich! You, who can't tell between "all" of the left, and me individually, giving lectures about the difference between individuals and groups!

That's awesome. I LOL'd.



We are all guilty of this....I do not have to go back and get the threads. We all tend to lump....



So why are you answering for Rappy, Kaney?



Peekaboo!

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:42 PM

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Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Let’s see. You brought it up with “I've already owned you w/ Obama being " sort of God " clip. That one still stings, huh?”

Mike clarified with “What I said was that you're the only one HERE who says that”

You came back with “And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that”, adding that he had to be “told twice”, when initially you had talked about the CLIP, not Mike.

Mike posted the entire quote, and a link to the post.

You came back with “You said the MSM doesn't do that, and I showed you that they specifically did”, going back to the clip again, but not addressing that he’d said “HERE”.

Mike reposted the entire quote.

You then came in calling him a liar and saying he put the word “here” in after the fact.

Mike retorted by saying YOU were the one who went back and took the word “here” OUT.

Deadlock. Either of you could have gone back and changed it. But what’s not been noticed is that you came up with he “owned you” thing in response to Mike noting that you wrote “All you Left wing nuts blamed Bush for man made global warming, which isn't real, for Katrina's cat 5 ( cat 3 at land fall ) strength. And then y'all claim he blew up the levees”, which is totally false. As far as I’m aware, nobody on this forum has claimed ANY of those thing, nor has anyone else I know. We both clarified that we didn’t blame Dumbya for global warming, Katrina OR “blowing up” the levees (?). It was exactly then that you turned the subject to the “sort of god” thing.

The chronology tells the story. You never again addressed the fact that you’d accused “ALL YOU LEFT WING NUTS” of blaming Dumbya for weird shit, you moved right on to claiming you’d proven someone called Obama a “god”, which isn’t exactly accurate anyway, as the clip shows the guy was making a corollary, saying Obama was trying to get beyond the “America” thing, but rather include the whole world, “as a god”—in other words, as a god would DO.

Enough. I wanted to know whether I’d misunderstood or not; going back clarified for me that you TURNED the discussion to the “god” thing as perhaps a way of avoiding admitting that nobody here had said any of the things you claimed we’d “all” said, I dunno. G'night.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Anatomy of a lie - Kwickie style.


Here is the original quote, as posted in this thread. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=44241

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Be sure to blame Obama for it. And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that.



and here is Kwickie's attempt to cover his tracks and make the most sad excuse to date... claiming he meant one thing, after he actually said another, and hoping that it some how gets him out of being completely and totally owned.

Quote:

And the MSM isn't the one here who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that, consistently.


Kwickie inserted the word " here ", in hopes of covering his tracks and changing the meaning of his position. However, it makes no sense.

So, the MSM posts here ? Is THAT what you're trying to say ?

Or did you mean " here " in the general sense ? Because if that's it, then you couldn't BE more wrong, as " here " , the MSM is exactly the only ones who are referring to Obama as " sort of God ".
See, it really doesn't make the point you were so haplessly trying to convey.

Evan Thomas, a writer for NEWSWEEK, proclaimed on MSNBC that Obama is " sort of God ".

He's not a FOX news anchor or even a regular contributer. He didn't say this remark on FOX news either. So, any claims that it's ONLY FOX news saying this stuff, is patently absurd. And false.

They might be the only ones who REPORTED it with any frequency, but the story was outside of their control. It truly was the MSM who started this appraisal of Obama, back on June 5th, 2009. Not FOX and not me. If I've used that description since then, so what ? It was STARTED by the MSM. Over a year ago.

And as for Kwickie ? It's just a sad indicator of how far he'll go in order to "win" an argument. ( kinda like the Libs and their phony man made global warming stunt.... ) Read the sentence with and with out the word "here" . It simply makes no sense when read with it in the sentence.... it's clear that Kwickie panicked, and instead of owning up to his colossal ass kicking, he tried to save face. Only this time, he got it slammed into the concrete pavement of truth.

Owies.





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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:51 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ah, Crappy, "the other side". I missed that. Those of you who are particularly offensive and more often than not post obscenities and personal attacks have PUT yourself on the "other side" of the reasonable, civil posters here. There have been questions by several members of this forum as to the possibility of sickpuppets, a claim that Mike PM'd (I believe RivKane?) when he didn't, and now this.

Yes, I put you on the other side with the rest of them. Almost all the time, you, RivKane, OTB, Wulf and a couple of others do nothing but mess up threads and make personal attacks. The only person who fires back consistently is Mike, and I've said I disagree with his doing so. Other than that, NOBODY HERE has a consistent record of personal insults and repetitive obscenities. They pop up from me or Sig or others, but not consistently. So unless one of you on what I consider the other side (not dem or repub, tho' I believe all of you are repubs, but rather "offensive") posts something of value to which it's worth responding, yes, I consider you all of the same mold.

Ergo, if a question comes up as to who is lying, the TRACK RECORD on the side you've chosen lends credibility to Mike, not you and your friends.

So snark away, I'm going to dinner.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:57 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, Jezus, Crappy, give it up. The fact is that EITHER ONE OF YOU could have gone to that thread and changed your posts, either to insert "here" or to delete it. Saying that was his original quote doesn't MAKE it so...as it stands now, what he claims exists, and what you claim exists, but either of you could have changed it; the wording exists in your post and in his. There is no way of knowing which of you went back and changed the text.

His initial point was that you keep claiming we see Obama as some kind of "god", etc., which none of us here has ever said or even indicated. You backed up your claim by showing a clip of someone saying something like that. He retorted that the MSM saying it didn't mean anyone HERE had said it, which is what you kept claiming of us. The MSM isn't HERE, but YOU keep saying that's what the people HERE call him.

Can't you grasp that?? THERE IS NO PROOF either way, for heaven's sake.

Enuff...it's obviously terribly important to you, but it no longer is to me. I've checked it out, recognized the impossibility of knowing who changed the text, and I'm through with it. Good NIGHT!


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Now go and read the whole thread. Note where Rappy starts in on Niki with the "The MSM calls Obama a 'sort of god'..." crap. Then note where I stated later that it's not the MSM that's the one here who calls Obama that; that's all Rappy.

You pointed out that the MSM calls Obama a god. I get that. FauxNews calls him that all the time. Why? I have no idea. They hold him in highest esteem, I guess.

*I* pointed out that, around here, on THIS site, YOU are the only one who calls him anything like a "sort of god". YOU are the only one here who routinely refers to Obama as "The One" and "The Messiah" and such. Sorry you can't see that. And I'm sorry if you consider yourself a part of the MSM, but you aren't. You're just a desperate, lonely loser willing to sink to any depths to try to "own" somebody.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:02 PM

KANEMAN


IF YOU HAVE A POINT. TRY STARTING IT DIFFERENT THAN CRAPPY

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:


Those of you who are particularly offensive and more often than not post obscenities and personal attacks




You're of course referring to Kwickie, Frem, Sig, yourself and maybe a few other characters, correct ? Because you're as likely as anyone to respond, if not with outright vulgarities, by being overly contentious, dismissive, snarky and condescending, well over and above what a particular response dictates. And don't bother trying to deny it. We both know you've been called out for that sort of stuff by several here on the board.

So , before you go lumping us all into one group and before you go calling the kettles black, check out your own self in the mirror.

If ya can.

Might not like what ya see there either.




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Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Anatomy of a lie - Kwickie style.


Here is the original quote, as posted in this thread. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=44241

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Be sure to blame Obama for it. And the MSM isn't the one who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that.



and here is Kwickie's attempt to cover his tracks and make the most sad excuse to date... claiming he meant one thing, after he actually said another, and hoping that it some how gets him out of being completely and totally owned.

Quote:

And the MSM isn't the one here who refers to him as "sort of god". YOU are the one that does that, consistently.


Kwickie inserted the word " here ", in hopes of covering his tracks and changing the meaning of his position. However, it makes no sense.



See my post above for the timeline, OR just go read the whole other thread.

Quote:


So, the MSM posts here ? Is THAT what you're trying to say ?



No. YOU said the MSM calls Obama a sort of god. *I* said that the MSM isn't the ones on this site calling him that; that's you.

Quote:


Or did you mean " here " in the general sense ? Because if that's it, then you couldn't BE more wrong, as " here " , the MSM is exactly the only ones who are referring to Obama as " sort of God ".
See, it really doesn't make the point you were so haplessly trying to convey.



No, I meant "here" in the sense of ON THIS SITE. FireflyFans.net. Where you are now. The MSM isn't here, calling Obama a god; just you are doing that. You've claimed you're NOT the MSM. So they're not here, calling him a god.

Quote:


Evan Thomas, a writer for NEWSWEEK, proclaimed on MSNBC that Obama is " sort of God ".

He's not a FOX news anchor or even a regular contributer. He didn't say this remark on FOX news either. So, any claims that it's ONLY FOX news saying this stuff, is patently absurd. And false.



Did I say "ONLY FOX"? I said FauxNews makes that claim, a lot, and they're clearly part of the MSM; in fact, they're the number one rated news channel, so they ARE the MSM. Clearly, the MSM calls Obama a god. They just don't come here and do it. YOU, however, do.

Quote:


They might be the only ones who REPORTED it with any frequency, but the story was outside of their control. It truly was the MSM who started this appraisal of Obama, back on June 5th, 2009. Not FOX and not me. If I've used that description since then, so what ? It was STARTED by the MSM. Over a year ago.



Actually, it was started by FauxNews, well over two years ago, during the campaign run-up. It was done when he spoke in Berlin, it was done all during the campaign. They kept referring to him as "the chosen one" and "the one". Hell, even McCain referred to him as "that One!" in the debates! All of this happened well before June of ought-nine.

Quote:


And as for Kwickie ? It's just a sad indicator of how far he'll go in order to "win" an argument. ( kinda like the Libs and their phony man made global warming stunt.... ) Read the sentence with and with out the word "here" . It simply makes no sense when read with it in the sentence.... it's clear that Kwickie panicked, and instead of owning up to his colossal ass kicking, he tried to save face. Only this time, he got it slammed into the concrete pavement of truth.



Sorry, but read the whole thread, including your exhortations to Niki that Obama is referred to by the MSM as "sort of god", and it makes perfect sense. Well, to those who can read English, anyway.

Owies. Indeed.



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Go fuck yourself.
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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
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