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Originally posted by Kirkules:
That poll also shows the Palin does have a lot of support in the Republican party.

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Didn't we pretty much decide *here* that most of us would vote for Sarah Palin in the right circumstances?

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Kirk, I agree on that point; she might deliver the base. But you don’t win with just the base.

I didn’t notice that “most” people here said they would vote for her, circumstances or not...?

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I suspect the new dynamic is that the Tea Party candidate always wins

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No, thus far the Tea Party candidates have won the PRIMARIES, we don’t know about most of the GENERALS yet. We’ll have to wait and see for that, but common wisdom running around for the most part says they’re too radical to take the general elections. I agree on everything you said about the economy, but Palin? Not so much. Or if she does, gawd help the country!

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Niki

I don't see that this is common wisdom, it seems to be the MSM opinion. They don't like the tea party, but then, the media thought that all the incumbents would lose in "anti-incumbent fever" which they batted very close to a zero on. I'm not sure what the media wants has much to do with reality.

Meanwhile, I don't see where these characters are "out of the mainstream." Tea Parties and Sarah Palin represent pretty much the US mainstream point of view. It's outside of the beltway in that we haven't seen a lot of it in congress, but perhaps we will now, and I can't see how that would be a bad thing.

For years we've been hearing socialists and neocon thinktankers telling us that their superior intellect is needed on the inside, and they will tell us how to run our lives and our country, which neither group has had even a percentage point of popular support. It's hard to see how, after decades of failure, we should even listen to these guys at all. Likewise, it baffles me that AIPAC should have any influence at all when they have less than 15% support within the jewish community, none outside of that, and <12 million people who are any part jewish in the country. that means the maximum support for zionism in american is less than 1% as well.

I suspect that actually what we are seeing is the opposite: The positions way outside the mainstream are the ones which are in power *now*. These "outsiders" actually represent normal american viewpoints. I don't find them scary at all. I find them refreshing. Sure, I don't always agree with them, often I don't agree with them at all, but they have very common sense human attitudes towards issues and problems, and not elitist imperialist ones. I don't get what the panic is about.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
*MY* bankster elitists? Last time I looked, it was *YOUR* guy (the Republican) who gave those "banksters" close to a trillion dollars with no strings attached and no oversight at all. And it's YOUR right-wing comrades who want zero regulation and zero oversight in the future.

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Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
I still think it is very dangerous to listen to the likes of Olberman and that ilk and characterize Palin as a quack-job.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"e) All government is bad, so no government, or at lesat one that doesn't do anything (which is what the Repubs are doing and which Palin maybe represents to them) is best"

How about a Constitutionally restrained government that doesnt frak with its citizens, stays out of world problems, and in general..

Doesnt Tread on Us?

That would be nice. That would be right. That would be lawful, correct and what the founders envisioned.

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Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
I still think it is very dangerous to listen to the likes of Olberman and that ilk and characterize Palin as a quack-job. This can be done with almost any politician that has been around awhile. This is a woman who has gone against the establishment time and time again, and has come out on top.

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Love her or Hate her she is the most powerful voice in politics and will be a force in Nov. and beyond.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"e) All government is bad, so no government, or at lesat one that doesn't do anything (which is what the Repubs are doing and which Palin maybe represents to them) is best"

How about a Constitutionally restrained government that doesnt frak with its citizens, stays out of world problems, and in general..

Doesnt Tread on Us?

That would be nice. That would be right. That would be lawful, correct and what the founders envisioned.

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Which tells me nothing at all about why you're supporting Republicans, because they have never done a single one of those things, and have in point of fact, done the exact opposite at every single opportunity.


AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I dont JUST support Republicans.

I try to pick the best man for the job. Even if it means a write-in.

But I will NEVER support a Democrat/Liberal/Progressive.

Ever.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Well Kwick,

To be fair... its personal.

So even IF a Demo-Lib-Prog EVER came forward with the creds and the ability to lead properly, and to follow the Constitution and all of it...

No.

Not that one of you has ever come forward with that... but EVEN IF you did, I doubt it.

I have a long memory, I know you and your kind, and..

I. Don't. Forgive. You.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Typical, spoiled, lib response.


"Then you talk about wanting to kick out the U.S.-born children of illegals, even though according to the U.S. Constitution, those children ARE U.S. citizens."

No. I've talked about expanding the ability of foreign-born labor to come here legally, and quickly. THAT would end a lot of the illegal problem. AS, would getting the government off the backs of small business.

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And I dont care if you forgive me or not, you obviously missed the point of what I was saying. And truth be told, I havn't the "energy", the small words, the time, or the effort, to try and explain it to you.

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