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"They say we shouldn't provide unemployment insurance because it costs money," chided Obama.

"So after years of championing policies that turned a record surplus into a massive deficit, including a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans, they've finally decided to make their stand on the backs of the unemployed," he said.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, it's true. Also, Boehner claims that tax cuts like Bush's cuts for the top 2% of the richest people DON'T have to be funded or paid for, because they actually INCREASE revenue, and don't cost anything at all.

So if we just eliminate all taxes immediately, we'll raise revenue so high we'll magically eliminate all deficits and erase the national debt, right?

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Also, find me a few rich people who aren't Republican, and I might just be interested. Because unless you can do both, it's just more

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
Let's just clarify the situation: W gave tax cuts to the wealthy and within a bare handful of years the economy crashed due to those same wealthy abusing their wealth, creating new and foolhardy methods of high stakes gambling on Wall Street. And the solution is to CONTINUE handing our money to the wealthy? Because this time they'll opt to go humanitarian and create jobs with it?

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Most of the low-income people I know are Republicans. Even those on government assistance. The fact that this is not logical doesn't seem to make it any less the case.

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Class warfare - check

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Huh! I guess there's a reason for guns after all!
Ready, aim...

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Welfare generates no $. Governments can only take $ from its citizens, or borrow money. It never generates wealth. Hand outs, welfare, unemployment.... doesn't matter what you call it, comes from the Gov't via the 2 methods above.

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Capitalism doesn't generate wealth. CEO's can only take $$ from the workers, or create fictitious money in banks. It never generates wealth. Profit, bonuses, golden toilets... doesn't matter. Comes from the people via force.

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Capitalism doesn't generate wealth. CEO's can only take $$ from the workers, or create fictitious money in banks. It never generates wealth. Profit, bonuses, golden toilets... doesn't matter. Comes from the people via force.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Let's see you make a GOOD argument for why the Republicans have blocked unemployment funding because it's "not paid for", yet make the argument that tax cuts should never have to be paid for? I love that one, it really tickled me.

Also, find me a few rich people who aren't Republican, and I might just be interested. Because unless you can do both, it's just more

I'll wait...


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off

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The lack of basic business understanding boggles the mind here. .. You clearly have no clue what the fuck you're talking about, at all.

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Capitalism doesn't generate wealth. CEO's can only take $$ from the workers, or create fictitious money in banks. It never generates wealth. Profit, bonuses, golden toilets... doesn't matter. Comes from the people via force.

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If you're paying any CEO for the work you do, then you're in the wrong job. No business takes $$ FROM WORKERS. The lack of basic business understanding boggles the mind here.

That one response by you, that CEOs take money from workers, shows me that any attempt to converse w/ you on this matter, is pointless.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, at all.

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...cut spending and cut taxes it's called budgeting. Tax cuts do not get paid for it just means we have less to spend.

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...cut spending and cut taxes it's called budgeting. Tax cuts do not get paid for it just means we have less to spend.

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Which means you have to "pay for" the tax cuts, in that you have to find where to spend less. Bush never even tried. Hell, Republicans have joked about it, how they never saw the need to pay for their spending under the Bush regime. They never made a peep about deficit spending when the Bush deficits were topping a trillion a year (and neither did you).

They've also not offered a single spending cut that would directly "pay for" the making the Bush tax cuts on the top 2% of the richest people permanent.



AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Yup, it's true. Also, Boehner claims that tax cuts like Bush's cuts for the top 2% of the richest people DON'T have to be funded or paid for, because they actually INCREASE revenue, and don't cost anything at all.

So if we just eliminate all taxes immediately, we'll raise revenue so high we'll magically eliminate all deficits and erase the national debt, right?

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Of course Kwicko! Don't you see it: the wealthy get those tax cuts and immediately use that extra money for wages so they can hire new workers. They would NEVER just buy a bigger yacht or build a bigger boathouse on their summer home, or get another liposuction for those love handles. They'd certainly never put that money into junk real estate bonds with their favorite wall street big bank, hoping to make to make out big so that new boathouse can have its own swimming pool and bowling alley attached.

The rich haven't been doing any of that, which is why after several years with these tax cuts in place the economy is chugging along happily and no one is unemployed...

Um... oops. Maybe not.

Also:



http://www.offthechartsblog.org/whose-deficit-is-it-anyway/

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