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Louisiana well emitting oil, gas after vessel strike
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:42 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A towing vessel struck an oil well in the Barataria Waterway off the southeastern Louisiana coast on Tuesday, causing the well to emit oil and natural gas into Barataria Bay, the Coast Guard said in a news release. Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, said there was a sheen around the platform, and vapor that's probably a combination of gas and water was emanating from the state-owned well, called C-117. The tug vessel Pere Ana C was pushing the dredge barge Captain Buford Berry when it hit the wellhead, the Coast Guard said. Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts said that while oil was gushing from the well in 6 feet of water, it was too dangerous to get close enough to estimate how much oil was leaking out. However, Roberts said he doesn't "expect it is going to be a huge problem to contain it or cap" the leak, because "it isn't uncommon."
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:53 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Doesn't this TELL US SOMETHING?!?! Does anybody get that if they see this as so inconsequential because such things are COMMON,there's a problem with the attitude of drilling?
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:17 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:59 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:15 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:25 PM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:23 AM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:24 AM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Wow, overreact much, Geez? You really can't see a difference between "Maybe we should start looking at being more careful about such things" and "Oh my gawd ohmigawd we're all going to die if we don't stop drilling everywhere today!"?
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: If Niki wants to play the PN of BP, that's fine, but she should expect the same response PN gets. "Keep the Shiny side up"
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:25 AM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:51 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Doesn't this TELL US SOMETHING?!?! Does anybody get that if they see this as so inconsequential because such things are COMMON,there's a problem with the attitude of drilling? Yep. We should just stop drilling for oil and natural gas worldwide. Maybe we should also close down any existing oil and gas wells. And let's scram all the nuclear plants too. And those coal-fired generators - let's shut them down as well. And fireplaces and cooking fires? Gotta stop those. So what if the world's economy flops in a collapse that makes the recent stuff look like a tiny blip and tens of millions of folks die? "Keep the Shiny side up"
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:56 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:04 AM
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Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:40 AM
Quote:Then, when the rest of us saw the results of their actions—you know, the earth cooling, oceans lowering, polar bears frolicking and glaciers growing—we would see the error of our ways and join the crusade voluntarily and enthusiastically.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:45 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Just for Y'all, particularly Byte. http://www.detnews.com/article/20100727/METRO/7270395/Obama-pledges-swift-response-after-Battle-Creek-oil-spill Convenient... Nasty too, been a bit busy helping coordinate non official efforts here. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: http://ricochet.com/conversations/Manmade-Global-Warming-The-Solution
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:09 AM
Quote:I can see the difference. There's someone else here who apparently can't. Else why a new rant every day? I'm expecting, "Wife of BP worker spills cooking oil in kitchen! THOSE BASTARDS!!!", any day now. If Niki wants to play the PN of BP, that's fine, but she should expect the same response PN gets.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:18 AM
Quote:Why not do the same for energy consumption?
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Quote:I can see the difference. There's someone else here who apparently can't. Else why a new rant every day? I'm expecting, "Wife of BP worker spills cooking oil in kitchen! THOSE BASTARDS!!!", any day now. If Niki wants to play the PN of BP, that's fine, but she should expect the same response PN gets. Okay, 1) that wasn't the argument you made above. The argument you made above was a slippery slop fallacy about Niki advocating shutting down all wells despite economic impact when she said no such thing. 2) this argument doesn't follow or explain the previous statements, and is itself two logical fallacies: an appeal to ridicule, and reducto ad Pirate News.
Quote: Now, what I THINK happened is that you read her comments as an endorsement of regulation, they probably are. But I find her comments a fairly on target critique of the engineering involved here in these similar drilling wells, which apparently sucks, and I don't find it out of bounds or presumptuous to suggest maybe these companies ought to sink some cash into R&D to reduce engineering failures, even if it's just for liability reasons. Barring that, if a business is irresponsible, consumers should decide with their wallets. If the money they're paying is contributing to gross negligence on the part of these companies, people are in their rights to not buy the product. If someone dies, I'm entirely willing to consider it criminal negligence. I consider BP and the regulators that looked the other way to help BP expedite the oil extraction at Deep Horizon criminals guilty of eleven counts of manslaughter.
Quote: Also, I resemble that remark, about the BP and cooking oil.
Quote:But seriously, I don't think we can brush aside that there really does seem to be some problem with equipment.
Quote: That is if these accidents aren't intentional, to reduce supply and increase demand, which is why I responded to Frem's posting the way I did. Here in Salt Lake City, a Chevron pipeline spilled a bunch of oil onto one of our rivers, too. The fact that something similar happened near Detroit, AND two leaking damaged oil wells in the gulf, AND yet another problem with the Alaskan Oil Pipeline, and big picture it looks like something is screwed up.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Quote:Why not do the same for energy consumption? This.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:14 AM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:35 AM
CUDA77
Like woman, I am a mystery.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:39 AM
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: The difference being, I didn't claim it as my own, make quotes from it, whatever. I just posted a link and let people make up their own minds.
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:36 AM
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