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Why don't these spills have as much attention as our spill?

POSTED BY: RIVERDANCER
UPDATED: Monday, August 2, 2010 09:31
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Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:04 PM

RIVERDANCER


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/world/africa/17nigeria.html

Does anyone here have any idea how lucky we are, that our outcries are heard? Heard by the company, the President, the rest of the world? Or perhaps the question is: Does anyone have any concept of how unfortunate the spill victims in Nigeria are?
Why isn't anything being done about this?


Facts are stubborn things.


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Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:16 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Not as many potential consumers.

If it doesn't threaten their profits in anyway, they physically can't give a crap.


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Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:54 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


They aren't going to get as much attention because they're elsewhere, in what Sarah Palin refers to as "the country of Africa", and because there's no easy or quick way for Rush and Fox to blame Obama for it.

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Saturday, July 31, 2010 3:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, that's OK. Mother Nature, she's a great ignorer of status and all things human. She'll have her revenge.

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Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:13 PM

KIRKULES


Africa is one of the few places in the World that Americans are still very respected. The reason is because of the hands off Africa policy we've had for the last 75 years. All they see of us is bags of grain being shipped in with USA printed on it and don't have to worry about us meddling. I hope our policy stays that way because Africa's problems are beyond our ability to make a difference.

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Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:23 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Africa is one of the few places in the World that Americans are still very respected. The reason is because of the hands off Africa policy we've had for the last 75 years. All they see of us is bags of grain being shipped in with USA printed on it and don't have to worry about us meddling. I hope our policy stays that way because Africa's problems are beyond our ability to make a difference.




Sounds like you're arguing for a hands-off policy in the Gulf as well; just let BP worry about it, and I'm sure they'll get right on it!

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Sunday, August 1, 2010 7:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Spills don't get a lot of attention wherever they happen, because they happen frequently and nobody pays much attention (at least, the MSM doesn't). And of course, when it doesn't happen here, you don't hear much about it. Given the option of reporting a spill in Africa or what Lindsay Lohan is up to, which do you think the MSM would choose?

We only hear so much about it when it's a big one or impacts a lot of people. How much did you hear about the Ixtoc, one of the largest known oil gusherfucks until the Deepwater (and almost identical)?

Here's a partial listing for you of just the stuff in the US...how many of those got attention?
Quote:

1976
Dec. 15, Buzzards Bay, Mass.: Argo Merchant ran aground and broke apart southeast of Nantucket Island, spilling its entire cargo of 7.7 million gallons of fuel oil.

1989
March 24, Prince William Sound, Alaska: tanker Exxon Valdez hit an undersea reef and spilled 10 million–plus gallons of oil into the water, causing the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

1993
Aug. 10, Tampa Bay, Fla.: three ships collided, the barge Bouchard B155, the freighter Balsa 37, and the barge Ocean 255. The Bouchard spilled an estimated 336,000 gallons of No. 6 fuel oil into Tampa Bay.

2000
Nov. 28, Mississippi River south of New Orleans: oil tanker Westchester lost power and ran aground near Port Sulphur, La., dumping 567,000 gallons of crude oil into lower Mississippi. Spill was largest in U.S. waters since Exxon Valdez disaster in March 1989.

2004
Dec. 7, Unalaska, Aleutian Islands, Alaska: A major storm pushed the M/V Selendang Ayu up onto a rocky shore, breaking it in two. 337,000 gallons of oil were released, most of which was driven onto the shoreline of Makushin and Skan Bays.

2005
Aug.-Sept., New Orleans, Louisiana: The Coast Guard estimated that more than 7 million gallons of oil were spilled during Hurricane Katrina from various sources, including pipelines, storage tanks and industrial plants.

2006
June 19, Calcasieu River, Louisiana: An estimated 71,000 barrels of waste oil were released from a tank at the CITGO Refinery on the Calcasieu River during a violent rain storm.

2008
July 25, New Orleans, Louisiana: A 61-foot barge, carrying 419,000 gallons of heavy fuel, collides with a 600-foot tanker ship in the Mississippi River near New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel leak from the barge, causing a halt to all river traffic while cleanup efforts commence to limit the environmental fallout on local wildlife.

2010
Jan. 23, Port Arthur, Texas: The oil tanker Eagle Otome and a barge collide in the Sabine-Neches Waterway, causing the release of about 462,000 gallons of crude oil. Environmental damage was minimal as about 46,000 gallons were recovered and 175,000 gallons were dispersed or evaporated, according to the U.S. Coast Guard.



Those are just the big guys; there are many, many more of smaller size. Our little Cosco Busan didn't even get mentioned:
Quote:

The COSCO Busan oil spill occurred at 08:30 UTC-8 on 7 November 2007 between San Francisco and Oakland, California, in which 53,500 USgal of IFO-380 heavy fuel oil, sometimes referred to as bunker fuel, spilled into San Francisco Bay after the container ship M/V COSCO Busan operated by, Fleet Management Ltd., struck Delta Tower of the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge in thick fog.
Now, that one made a mess of the Bay, traveled out through the Golden Gate and up the Coast...I know 'cuz I helped clean the beach off Stinson, which is some twenty miles North of the Golden Gate.

That should give you a small idea. There are many more international spills/leaks/gusherfucks listed, but how much did you hear about just the ones in the US? Just the BIG ones (there are many, many more smaller ones).

That's the best I can do to answer your question, there are most likely other factors, too, as others said.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Sunday, August 1, 2010 7:40 AM

KANEMAN


Well you answered your own question...It's because its in Africa.....Who gives a shit. What would you like the news to cover another spill 24/7? And a spill half way around the world that isn't impacting any real people. There are more important things to be worrying about right now.

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Monday, August 2, 2010 9:31 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well, like I said, of COURSE you love a good racist...takes one to love one.

What you don't realize, and wouldn't care about if you did, is that the spills all over the world will eventually affect all of us. Even you, which might be the point at where you WILL care...tho' I doubt it.


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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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