The Truth About POLITICIANS, By George Carlin by Kwicko

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Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:47 PM

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

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Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:53 PM

sorry... can't help myself. George Carlin is awesome.

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

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Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:17 PM

Yes, he was. And thanks to the magic of video and YouTube, he still is and always will be!

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Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:11 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Carlin always did rock, but yanno, there's just a special place in my heart for Dennis Leary.

Booyah.

-Frem

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

George Carlin was funny in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:37 AM

Y'know, upon reflection, the YouTube video I opened with is titled "The Truth About Republicans", and it focuses on the Reagan era's abuses, but it really could just be titled "The Truth About Politicians" just as easily.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:02 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Y'know, upon reflection, the YouTube video I opened with is titled "The Truth About Republicans", and it focuses on the Reagan era's abuses, but it really could just be titled "The Truth About Politicians" just as easily.

I'd post a video link to "The Truth About Carlin"...but it just shows his grave.

H

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:30 AM

BYTEMITE

Carlin would laugh. He was never one for reverence for the dead.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:01 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Y'know, upon reflection, the YouTube video I opened with is titled "The Truth About Republicans", and it focuses on the Reagan era's abuses, but it really could just be titled "The Truth About Politicians" just as easily.

I'd post a video link to "The Truth About Carlin"...but it just shows his grave.

H

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I thought that one was called "The Truth About Reagan", only the grave was covered in elephant shit.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:17 AM

THENEWIMPROVEDKANEMAN

Don't elect Reagan as president, make Reagan king....

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:21 AM

STORYMARK

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Oh, yes!

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If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re gonna get selfish, ignorant politicians

Damn straight. Yes, I adore Carlin, too...a wicked brain with no compunction about telling it like it is. Once again, comedians can get away with SO much stuff politicians can’t; and once again, we need two jesters, one for each party, who get to tell their jokes ON CAMERA as soon as the Congressmen and Senators leave the House and Senate. Wouldn’t that be FUN? To hear their idiocy put in REAL terms right after they said it? Gawd, I’d love it!

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The poor are there...just to scare the shit out of the middle class

Oh, gawd, he’s awesome, I agree.

I didn’t know he died, dammit. And yes, he would have LOVED any joke anyone could make about his death!

Oh, GREAT one, Story. Do you think history will ever admit he was senile while still in office? And Nancy was actually running the country? I’ve never forgotten Robin Williams’ line “Blaming Reagan for the state of the country is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the state of your hamburger”.

Don’t forget Carlin in Dogma:

It’s not funny, but I LOVE this:

“When you’re born into this world, you’re born into a freak show. When you’re born in America, you’re given a front row seat”.

I, too, think the title should be changed to "The Truth About Politicians"...it's too universal, doesn't describe JUST the Republicans!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:41 AM

As you wish...

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:44 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I love George Carlin too, but in his later years he became far too cynical.

How are you going to change things if you dont have hope that they CAN be changed?

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:00 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

He did more to change things than you or I ever did.

Holding up a mirror is no small service to humanity.

--Anthony

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:01 AM

BYTEMITE

That was one of the issues I had with Carlin, honestly. I couldn't completely enjoy his humour because he liked to paint everything as completely hopeless.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:18 PM

In keeping with the Carlin theme, this is my latest favorite quote of his:

“The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I really want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.”

There's something in it that speaks to my Angriest Man on the Internet™ self.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:36 PM

... fully loaded, safety off...

You guys are funny. Niether Leary nor Carlin did anything substantial to ease the life of the working class other than give them a laugh - that's laudable but don't lose perspective. Honestly, for all the practical knowledge they shared about how to improve the lives of the folks buying their tickets and making them really f@cking rich, you might even think they were hired by tptb, "get them riled up, play to their egos and sense of entitlement, and leave them with nothing. The next morning they'll be spent and back at work ready to make more widgets.”

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:46 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Yes, that's probably it. Carlin was probably a paid employee of the Federal government, used to spread reverse misinformation to quell the sheeple into making more wool. I'm sure Piratenews has a source that can give you more specifics.

--Anthony

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:08 PM

Heck, and here I thought it was okay to like a comedian just for making you laugh, even if you were laughing at some uncomfortable truths about the world around you...

Guess I'll have to burn all my Bill Hicks CDs, too. :(

I wonder what George Orwell ever did that enriched the lives of ordinary men. He was probably paid by the feds to make us think maybe we don't have it that bad!

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:13 PM

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Or perhaps you have stories about all the viewers who took on the federal gov after listening to one of his shows... no, that really sounds more like something The Onion would have: "Area Man Sees Carlin, Starts Communist Party."
Think Anthony. Read what I wrote and not what you want to read.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:29 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Heck, and here I thought it was okay to like a comedian just for making you laugh, even if you were laughing at some uncomfortable truths about the world around you...

Guess I'll have to burn all my Bill Hicks CDs, too. :(

I wonder what George Orwell ever did that enriched the lives of ordinary men. He was probably paid by the feds to make us think maybe we don't have it that

God, they're both funny as hell. And then what. Did you listen to the clips? "You are owned, because the owners don't want it to get better." That's pretty serious. So what's George's big fucking plan? Buy my cd? Hey, have a good laugh, it's good to laugh, makes you look less owned.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:59 PM

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So what's George's big fucking plan? Buy my cd? Hey, have a good laugh, it's good to laugh, makes you look less owned.

I don't think he ever proposed a "big fucking plan". You seem to be implying he should have, but I'm not sure why. He was a comedian and cultural critic. At best he was trying to wake people up, get them to question things a bit more and maybe begin to realize that there's a problem to solve. You have to convince people that there's actually something wrong before you can begin putting together a solution.

What is it about what he did that annoys you?

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:59 PM

I'm not sure there IS a big plan. Maybe the idea is that if you realize the honest truth, you might not be such an eager participant in the system. You might decide to throw a wrench in the gears now and again. You might decide to not play by the rules, or you might just decide to have your own private revolution now and again, even if it was just painting subversive street art.

Does any of it change anything? Who knows? What if all it changes is a mind? Would that be too much to ask? Too little?

Is it somehow harmful or detrimental, or unhelpful, to know some hard truths?

The best comedians I've ever heard make you THINK after you've stopped laughing. And if you can get enough people thinking, and asking hard questions, you really can make a difference?

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:22 PM

ANTHONYT

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Read what I wrote and not what you want to read.

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Hello,

I'm responding to what you wrote. You seem to think the man failed us somehow, or even helped 'The Powers That Be' because he didn't start a movement to topple the government.

I'm not sure where you get your expectations about people from.

Mr. Carlin talked about us and the world we live in, holding up a mirror to our absurdities, our absurd government, and our absurd socio-economic conditions. He shared this information with an audience of millions.

If that ain't laudable enough for you, I can only imagine the supreme failure the average bloke is by comparison.

For my own part, he did a metric butt-load more with his life than I've done with mine, so I'll give myself permission to think he's cool and admire his contribution.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:58 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Ha, making people laugh is the second highest form of public service.
Ask Remo Williams what the first one is.

Btw, the bouquet thrower there made me laugh, I am SOOOoo stealing that idea the first time I think Gus and his bloc can get away with it.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:55 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
So what's George's big fucking plan? Buy my cd? Hey, have a good laugh, it's good to laugh, makes you look less owned.

I don't think he ever proposed a "big fucking plan". You seem to be implying he should have, but I'm not sure why. He was a comedian and cultural critic. At best he was trying to wake people up, get them to question things a bit more and maybe begin to realize that there's a problem to solve. You have to convince people that there's actually something wrong before you can begin putting together a solution.

What is it about what he did that annoys you?

SergeantX

"It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah"

I grew up with his comedy and hear the same notes you all hear, the same things to applaud, but after his last attempts that failed miserably (as Wulf mentioned), I started hearing nothing but him trying to do his schtick. It was sad, like entertainers are slaves to the persona they created. So he was stuck doing his, "get them riled, look behind the curtain" routine because it's how he paid the bills and because he had to.
And *now* when I hear it - in the context of this site - I think schtick pure and simple. He hit those notes just like cnn hits them in a way, to play on our emotions and make us pay attention and in both cases you could ask are they making us think or are they just using us? Are they just trying to keep their audience?

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Friday, August 13, 2010 1:55 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Ha, making people laugh is the second highest form of public service.
Ask Remo Williams what the first one is.

Btw, the bouquet thrower there made me laugh, I am SOOOoo stealing that idea the first time I think Gus and his bloc can get away with it.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

Frem, when you get a chance and some spare time, Google "Banksy street art". His stuff is hi-larious, but it's also the most scathing social commentary I've seen from any artist in a long time. Scenes like this one, painted on the side of a building adjacent to the roof of another, about three stories up:

Or his take on Buddha, and what would befall such a passive figure in today's world...

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Friday, August 13, 2010 10:29 AM

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