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Text of President Obama's remarks at the White House Iftar dinner on Ramadan
Good evening. Welcome to the White House. To you, to Muslim Americans across our country, and to more than one billion Muslims around the world, I extend my best wishes on this holy month. Ramadan Kareem. I want to welcome members of the diplomatic corps; members of my administration; and Members of Congress, including Rush Holt, John Conyers, and Andre Carson, who is one of two Muslim American Members of Congress, along with Keith Ellison.

Here at the White House, we have a tradition of hosting iftars that goes back several years, just as we host Christmas parties, seders, and Diwali celebrations. These events celebrate the role of faith in the lives of the American people. They remind us of the basic truth that we are all children of God, and we all draw strength and a sense of purpose from our beliefs.
These events are also an affirmation of who we are as Americans. Our Founders understood that the best way to honor the place of faith in the lives of our people was to protect their freedom to practice religion. In the....

...Virginia Act for Establishing Religion Freedom, Thomas Jefferson wrote that “all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion.” The First Amendment of our Constitution established the freedom of religion as the law of the land. And that right has been upheld ever since.

Indeed, over the course of our history, religion has flourished within our borders precisely because Americans have had the right to worship as they choose – including the right to believe in no religion at all. And it is a testament to the wisdom of our Founders that America remains deeply religious – a nation where the ability of peoples of different faiths to coexist peacefully and with mutual respect for one another stands in contrast to the religious conflict that persists around the globe.

That is not to say that religion is without controversy. Recently, attention has been focused on the construction of mosques in certain communities – particularly in New York. Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. The pain and suffering experienced by those who lost loved ones is unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground.

But let me be clear: as a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are. The writ of our Founders must endure.

We must never forget those who we lost so tragically on 9/11, and we must always honor those who have led our response to that attack – from the firefighters who charged up smoke-filled staircases, to our troops who are serving in Afghanistan today. And let us always remember who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for. Our enemies respect no freedom of religion. Al Qaeda’s cause is not Islam – it is a gross distortion of Islam. These are not religious leaders – these are terrorists who murder innocent men, women and children. In fact, al Qaeda has killed more Muslims than people of any other religion – and that list of victims includes innocent Muslims who were killed on 9/11.

That is who we are fighting against. And the reason that we will win this fight is not simply the strength of our arms – it is the strength of our values. The democracy that we uphold. The freedoms that we cherish. The laws that we apply without regard to race or religion; wealth or status. Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us – a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today.

In my inaugural address, I said that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. That diversity can bring difficult debates. Indeed, past eras have seen controversies about the construction of synagogues or Catholic churches. But time and again, the American people have demonstrated that we can work through these issues, stay true to our core values, and emerge stronger for it. So it must be – and will be – today.

Tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan—making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.

Like so many other immigrants, generations of Muslims came here to forge their future. They became farmers and merchants, worked in mills and factories, and helped lay the railroads. They helped build America. They founded the first Islamic center in New York City in the 1890s. They built America’s first mosque on the prairie of North Dakota. And perhaps the oldest surviving mosque in America—still in use today—is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Today, our nation is strengthened by millions of Muslim Americans. They excel in every walk of life. Muslim American communities—including mosques in all fifty states—also serve their neighbors. Muslim Americans protect our communities as police, firefighters and first responders. Muslim American clerics have spoken out against terror and extremism, reaffirming that Islam teaches that one must save human life, not take it. And Muslim Americans serve with honor in our military. At next week’s iftar at the Pentagon, tribute will be paid to three soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq and now rest among the heroes of Arlington National Cemetery.

These Muslim Americans died for the security that we depend upon, and the freedoms that we cherish. They are part of an unbroken line of Americans that stretches back to our Founding; Americans of all faiths who have served and sacrificed to extend the promise of America to new generations, and to ensure that what is exceptional about America is protected – our commitment to stay true to our core values, and our ability to perfect our union.

For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every religion, including Islam—that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
Thank you all for being here, and I wish you a blessed Ramadan. And with that, let’s eat.

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Hamas nod for Ground Zero mosque

Terror group's leader: 'Have to build it'



By S.A. MILLER in Washington and TOM TOPOUSIS in New York

Last Updated: 12:03 PM, August 16, 2010

Posted: 1:49 AM, August 16, 2010

A leader of the Hamas terror group yesterday jumped into the emotional debate on the plan to construct a mosque near Ground Zero -- insisting Muslims "have to build" it there.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Care to show me where Obama said "have to build it" in reference to this mosque?

You can't, because you know you're lying.


You claim that Harry Reid "breaks w/ Obama on Cordoba Mosque issue". You haven't shown that in any conceivable way, and you know it. You're grasping at straws now. And strawmen.

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Also, I don't want to know anything else about what Hamas agrees with or supports. Next, you'll tell me they support marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Or even worse...that 100% of Hamas dudes find women attractive. In which case, I will need to make major life changes to keep my world view diametrically opposed to TEH (sic) OTHER!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Care to show me where Obama said "have to build it" in reference to this mosque?

You can't, because you know you're lying.


You claim that Harry Reid "breaks w/ Obama on Cordoba Mosque issue". You haven't shown that in any conceivable way, and you know it. You're grasping at straws now. And strawmen.

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You're lying , because I never said Barry said the Mosque " has to be built ". Only that he favors it being built, while Gov Patterson ( D ) and Harry Reid ( D ) both say it should not be built there.

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" With Monday's statement, Senator Reid became the highest ranking ranking Democrat to fall out with President Barack Obama over the building of the proposed Islamic community center just blocks from Ground Zero. " -
http://news.ino.com/headlines/?newsid=81620101927

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Obama said Saturday that he backed the rights of the builders to build a place of worship and community center on private property near Ground Zero "in accordance with local laws and ordinances," but stressed that he would not comment on the "wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there."

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Sen. Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, on Monday declared his opposition to the building of an Islamic cultural center that includes a mosque near the lower Manhattan site of the World Trade Center destroyed in the 11 September 2001 terror attacks.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I don't care what his OPINION is....

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Frankly, I'd rather have a President who governs by the rule of the Constitution, rather than one who governs by the opinion polls. I don't care what his OPINION is, because it has absolutely zero-point-shit to do with the issue at hand.



AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I can oppose something while still recognizing its right to exist. Apparently you're too dumb to realize this.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
"The First Amendment protects freedom of religion," Manley said. "Sen. Reid respects that but thinks that the mosque should be built some place else."

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
"The First Amendment protects freedom of religion,". "Sen. Reid respects that but thinks that the mosque should be built some place else."

That sums it up for me.

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.... and of course the repubs would whine about anything

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


"The First Amendment protects freedom of religion," Manley said. "Sen. Reid respects that but thinks that the mosque should be built some place else."

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Originally posted by Riverlove:

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With Obama, everything he's done for 20 months has been in contemptable and arrogantly elitist oppostion to the American people's will.

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Ah, you silly little simpleton, thinking the teabaggers represent a majority of anything beyond pissy right wingers.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Niki2:
There's a strip club three blocks from "Ground Zero", as is a trashy lingere store, and horse-betting bureau is even closer.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich endorses abolishing the First Amendment entirely, and outlawing Islam AND peaceful protests...


And of course the support for these positions among the rightwing nutters is universal.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Oh, hell, Niki - just the mere fact of you being here, and me being here, is all it takes to bring out the nattering horde.

Shall I *not* refute things with actual facts, for fear of someone calling me gay?

Should I *not* speak out against the wrongs I see, for fear of someone calling me a mere shipping clerk (and obviously nobody of such low breeding as to be of "the working class" should be allowed to have any say in how America works, right?)

Should I not be here, not be allowed to have an opinion, or voice it? Is that what you want?

I was responding to Rappy in particular, pointing out the reality of the situation. I know it's largely a waste of effort, but still, it might help better inform someone who might otherwise be tempted to take his word for it.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
One can only imagine the uproar if gambling strippers in lingerie had brought down the towers...

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
One can only imagine the uproar if gambling strippers in lingerie had brought down the towers...

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What happens in a cave in Pakistan, stays in a cave in Pakistan...

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich endorses abolishing the First Amendment entirely, and outlawing Islam AND peaceful protests...


And of course the support for these positions among the rightwing nutters is universal.

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Gingrich: Free Speech Should Be Curtailed To Fight Terrorism
By JOSH GERSTEIN

A former House speaker, Newt Gingrich, is causing a stir by proposing that free speech may have to be curtailed in order to fight terrorism.

"We need to get ahead of the curve rather than wait until we actually literally lose a city, which I think could literally happen in the next decade if we're unfortunate," Mr. Gingrich said Monday night during a speech in New Hampshire. "We now should be impaneling people to look seriously at a level of supervision that we would never dream of if it weren't for the scale of the threat."

Speaking at an award dinner billed as a tribute to crusaders for the First Amendment, Mr. Gingrich, who is considering a run for the White House in 2008, painted an ominous picture of the dangers facing America.

"This is a serious, long-term war," the former speaker said, according an audio excerpt of his remarks made available yesterday by his office. "Either before we lose a city or, if we are truly stupid, after we lose a city, we will adopt rules of engagement that use every technology we can find to break up their capacity to use the Internet, to break up their capacity to use free speech, and to go after people who want to kill us to stop them from recruiting people."

Mr. Gingrich acknowledged that these proposals would trigger "a serious debate about the First Amendment." He also said international law must be revised to address the exigencies posed by international terrorists.

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There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia.

Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources.

America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.

No mosque.

No self deception.

No surrender.

The time to take a stand is now - at this site on this issue.

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"Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the holocaust museum in Washington,"

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Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich endorses abolishing the First Amendment entirely, and outlawing Islam AND peaceful protests...


And of course the support for these positions among the rightwing nutters is universal.

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Another in a long line of Kwickie lies.

* yawn *

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're full of it, Kwickie.

That's the biggest load of absurdity and fabricated nonsense I think I've seen anyone waste time posting here since Pirate News.

Congrats.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Every bit of it is well-sourced and those are direct quotes from Gingrich himself.

Sorry you can't handle the truth. You never could. And you'll defend Gingrich as a "patriot" while completely ignoring - or outright denying - that he has quite clearly, in no uncertain terms, called for the abolition of the First Amendment.

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