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Re: The Qu'ran burnings
Friday, September 10, 2010 4:14 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:56 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Fuck em, they wanna burn a book, let em burn it, this is a free county - so long as they paid for it, what is that to me ?
Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: But there is also that exact same implied threat with fringe Christianity! That's what so many of you are unable to see or admit to. Look at how many counties in this nation there are where you cannot get an abortion - a COMPLETELY LEGAL MEDICAL PROCEDURE - at ANY price, simply because no medical provider is willing to risk their life and the lives of their families and employees to undertake what is completely legal and constitutionally protected.
Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:31 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Oh worse than that, Piz - There's times I've had to risk my very neck protecting people I fucking HATED, who were profoundly and personally offensive to me, standing up for them and their rights because no one else had the damn guts or the nerve to take the high road when it got rocky. You also might note how I get really annoyed when it's me, the friggin Anarchist, who winds up having to cite the rule of law and it's purpose to folk all to willing to gather up torches and pitchforks. Believe me, I know all too well what it is to grit your teeth and stand in defense of the rights of people you despise, who would, without question, not do the same for you, who believe in fact that no one besides them HAS any rights... Hell, I don't like it, often wonder if I should do it, but it's not a matter of what I *want*, it's a matter of what is right, and in the alleged words of Martin Luther... "Here I stand, I can do no other." That's more true than you know, something like that is reflex to me, a compulsion of dire force that'll bend even my iron will to the task, I can't NOT do it, just don't have it in me. When someones rights are about to get stomped, the path of diamond shield *requires* me to intervene, no matter how much I hate the would-be stompee. This wackjob doesn't rook me as bad as Phelps does, mind you - this is more of the same kind of irritation I get from Gus, when in response to racist cracks he starts playing to it as a form of mocking sarcasm, it's effective, but it irritates the bloody hell out of me when he does it... not that my mouth and ability to pick a fight don't do the same to him, mind you. Be funny as hell if this moron makes the same mistake some of them Astaru made last time we let them start a bonfire, one of em never did get his beard to grow all the way back in, heh heh. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:39 AM
Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:49 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Try to imagine the U.S. Military writing to you about one of your posts on Fireflyfans.net, and explaining to you that your public statements are putting U.S. Servicemen in danger.
Quote:That part of me that slows down at bad car accidents and looks - that part would like to see this guy burn his books live on CNN just to see what would happen, and to show Islam we don't give a shit, we won't be bullied. My older side knows that's kind of foolish and a bit selfish, and that not finding out is smarter for everyone.
Quote:Who's Rights do we protect?
Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:00 AM
Quote: (p.s., cartoons are allegorical lessons for children; you're not supposed to think that deeply about them. )
Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:07 AM
Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:53 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: But it does raise an interesting question then: Who's Rights should take precedent here? The preacher idjit to burn his quran, or the innocent people who might also get burned because of it? Who's Rights do we protect?
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:07 AM
Quote:Anthony, I'm kinda confused. Is this about the Qu'ran burning? How does it relate? So far, nobody (that I'm aware of) is "behind" allowing this guy to burn Qu'rans, however stupidly, he's doing it on his own and pretty obviously FOR himself, given his past actions.
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:19 AM
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