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Thursday, October 7, 2010 3:59 AM

CHRISISALL


Eliminate income tax & raise taxes on luxury items.
THEN things would be equal.



But rich peeps would HATE that. No tax loophole on a straight sales tax...


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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She saw that this country was screwing itself from the science end to the political end, and most points in between.
Nearly everything she ever posted in the past has turned out nearly 100% correct.

Just sayin'.



She is a socialist who wants to see the Federal Govt. control everything, every aspect of our lives. Is that what you want? You certainly 'aint no Browncoat if you do.




Then not a single person who ever voted for or supported Bush could be considered a Browncoat by any stretch of the imagination.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:22 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
No denyin' she's a rabid anti-corporatist, but then hey, so am I.


I guess you must be an artist, or some other self-employed person then. If so, you're lucky. Because the rest of us work for corporations. You're anti-corporate, huh? So things like Cars, TVs, Movies, Clothes, Food, DVD's, Hotels, Airlines, CD's, don't interest you; you likely boycott these products of evil corporations, right? Even those model spaceships you're so fond of building...guess what? Made by corporations.

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I want the government to treat us with respect. Which it does not now.

Can't argue with that. Obama and his Democrat Congress have gone against the will of the American people on just about everything for the last 2 years. And if you criticize their arrogant and tone-deaf policies that have all failed, they call you a racist or a bigot or worse. Yeah, where's the respect there man?

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..... & not much at all feeding the hungry children of this world.

Congratulations, you've just won second place in the Miss America Pageant. Edith Keeler would be proud of you, however, and that 'aint a bad thing.

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But I ain't no Purplebelly.

I think you are, or at least you lean hard that way. On one hand you hate the Govt., but then you support Obama socialism.






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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:28 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

If GOP deficits are bad, then why do you tolerate Obama's ? They're far worse. Is it because he's dark skinned, that you're too afraid to criticize ?

Your logic does not follow. There must be some reason.




I could ask you the same question.

If Obama's deficits are bad, then why did you tolerate Bush's? They were the worst this nation had ever seen. And why do you hate Obama's deficits, when he added only a few percent to Bush's already unimaginable totals? Is it because Obama's dark-skinned?



Deficits aren't necessarily always bad, either. Do you have a mortgage? If so, when you bought your home, you ran a huge deficit that year. You spent far more than you made, and you borrowed to allow that spending.

Now, if you're doing great, making money hand over fist, you probably pay some extra towards the principal on that mortgage - paying down your personal deficit, as it were. If times were so great under Bush, shouldn't we have been paying DOWN the debt and running SMALLER deficits than in years past?

In a similar vein, if you get sick or have an unforeseen economic downturn that pops up, you can borrow against the equity in your house - running a short-term deficit as a bridge loan to get you to longer-term financial stability. That's when a deficit can be HELPFUL.

In bad economic times, governments typically SHOULD run a bit of a deficit. In GOOD times, they should pay those deficits and debts down.

That we didn't do that for 8 years under Bush, and you had no problem with it at all, says that either you don't care about deficits (unless a black man is in office) or you don't really believe the economy was booming.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:29 AM

BYTEMITE


That's a good idea. I like that. So long as it doesn't drive up living expenses, but I'm not sure how or if it could.

Unless. Sales taxes are probably going to hurt the people that are selling, though it evens out if most everyone's trade results in a product they can sell.

But if most of your foodstuffs are produced by a mega-corporation/conglomerate that also produces luxury goods... Hmm.

I think this idea would be most effective and least harmful if all business were small business. I'd recommend taking out the corporations first before trying to enact it. Even then there might be some problems depending on what the market looks like. You'll also probably want to fight down inflation so products are still affordable with tax, though the good news is if you're fighting down inflation you're also paying off debt. Maybe you can use money from dissolved corporations to do that.

Income tax is a scam, and was put into action about when the first national banks were organized. That pretty much says it all.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:38 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
To follow up:

"You see if taxes are low, like 20 percent, as a partner in my small business I am motivated to take out our profits as income for myself. Let's say my share of the business led to $100,000 in profits. If taxes are 20 percent, I pay $20,000 and keep $80,000. I can live with that split.

But what happens when taxes are high? If I have to pay 60 percent, then I'm left with only $40,000 and the government takes $60,000. That sucks. I don't want to "lose" all that money. So, what do I do instead? I re-invest it in the business, so I don't have to pay taxes!

If at the end of the year, my tax bill is zero, then I pay zero. Instead, by plowing the profits back into the business I help to grow it and make it even more profitable down the road. I might even hire more people with the extra money I kept in the business because that's a lot better option than just handing it over to the government.

So, higher taxes don't lead to more investment and higher employment because I'm a liberal who likes to give away my money to the government. They lead to those good results for the exact opposite reason -- because I don't want to give away my money to the government.

Logic, you can't beat it. Unless of course you have a lot of money and you just buy off the whole system. And that's where we stand now, with the truth turned on its head. But the next time someone claims tax cuts help the economy, don't let them get away with that bald-faced lie."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-big-republican-lie-on_b_7
52078.html


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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left




That would make sense on paper and to anyone that is clueless. The reality is that most small businesses are LLC and are taxed as personal income and not Corporate rates(which can be an advantage over paying both rates if one chose Inc) So, the profits get taxed at the highest rates(in many occasions). In grown up land this leads to the "Partners" in an LLC to not hire, expand, or invest in their business. High personal taxes have the effect of high corporate taxes on LLCs. That is never a good thing. Raising taxes on the rich is to also raise the taxes on the economic engine of this country, the entrepreneur(note:I did not say "investor", which is not what we need now.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:41 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

If GOP deficits are bad, then why do you tolerate Obama's ? They're far worse. Is it because he's dark skinned, that you're too afraid to criticize ?

Your logic does not follow. There must be some reason.




I could ask you the same question.

If Obama's deficits are bad, then why did you tolerate Bush's? They were the worst this nation had ever seen. And why do you hate Obama's deficits, when he added only a few percent to Bush's already unimaginable totals? Is it because Obama's dark-skinned?



Deficits aren't necessarily always bad, either. Do you have a mortgage? If so, when you bought your home, you ran a huge deficit that year. You spent far more than you made, and you borrowed to allow that spending.

Now, if you're doing great, making money hand over fist, you probably pay some extra towards the principal on that mortgage - paying down your personal deficit, as it were. If times were so great under Bush, shouldn't we have been paying DOWN the debt and running SMALLER deficits than in years past?

In a similar vein, if you get sick or have an unforeseen economic downturn that pops up, you can borrow against the equity in your house - running a short-term deficit as a bridge loan to get you to longer-term financial stability. That's when a deficit can be HELPFUL.

In bad economic times, governments typically SHOULD run a bit of a deficit. In GOOD times, they should pay those deficits and debts down.

That we didn't do that for 8 years under Bush, and you had no problem with it at all, says that either you don't care about deficits (unless a black man is in office) or you don't really believe the economy was booming.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





ROFL. Tell that to the millions of people that lost their homes, jobs, or families because of debt. I've read some pretty asinine things on this board, but that may take the cake.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:44 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


How does one "lose their families" because of debt? Did you have to sell your kids, KKKaney?


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So Chris,

You're FOR The FairTax?



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:52 AM

L1GHTBR1NGER


no he just started lettin other grownups fuck them for money

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:55 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:55 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."



No one has ever "won" an argument with a Liberal. You ought to change your mantra to "The modern definition of a "racist" is someone who isn't a Liberal." That would be more accurate, and it would better define what 80% of Americans are...not.






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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
You're anti-corporate, huh? So things like Cars, TVs, Movies, Clothes, Food, DVD's, Hotels, Airlines, CD's, don't interest you; you likely boycott these products of evil corporations, right? Even those models you're so fond of...guess what? Made by corporations.


Corporations are not regulated by government anymore, they practically ARE the government.
See, we have speed laws to protect the public at large, but corporations have removed laws that they feel hinders them. Can WE do that with speed laws? No. So why do corporations get to be like a person, but ALSO like the government? Money. Some corporations are fine. Some are not. But in these times of dog-eat-dog, even good ones are forced to play by dirty rules. That sucks.

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Congratulations, you've just won second place in the Miss America Pageant.

If we spent trillions fighting hunger instead of phantoms, MAYBE the world would swing over to our way of seeing things more. MAYBE shitheels like Saddam would be ousted WITHOUT our "assistance." MAYBE it's better to make mega-friends than mega-enemies.
But a peaceful world would threaten profits for the Starks of the world who haven't embraced a true understanding of their roll in things yet.

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I think you are, or at least you lean hard that way. On one hand you hate the Govt., but then you support Obama socialism.

Obama was, once again, the lesser of two evils.
I vote for ONE thing, and ONE THING ONLY- who is less likely to amp up military hostility in the world.
You and I both know Obama is out in the next election. A good Libertarian leaning Republican is my hope for the next President.
It is a dream I have...


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:57 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:58 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.




It's always his fault. He's gay.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:00 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.




It's always his fault. He's gay.



I posted under you and wrote what you would write.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:01 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.




It's always his fault. He's gay.



I posted under you and wrote what you would write.




Gottcha. Don't mess with my puppet I spin him all over as it is. Are you trying to make the boy go crazy?

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:02 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.




It's always his fault. He's gay.



I posted under you and wrote what you would write.




Gottcha. Don't mess with my puppet I spin him all over as it is. Are you trying to make the boy go crazy?



No. I was bored.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You're assuming I'm replying to you. In the future, if you're going to assume things, assume you're wrong. It will save you time, since you're always wrong.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:03 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So Chris,

You're FOR The FairTax?



At a quick glance,
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main
I'd have to say yes.

Another strike against me as some kind of Socialist, eh?


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:04 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewtGingrich:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Also, anyone who claims to be so dead-set against "Obama's deficits" (note that they don't claim to be against *deficits*, just OBAMA'S deficits!) would no doubt agree that the Bush tax cuts for the ultra-rich must be allowed to expire as they were originally designed to. That right there chops a HUGE chunk off the deficit and works towards paying down the national debt.

And since it's clear that they never created a single job, it should be an easy decision.



... or you could just admit that you really don't have any problem with deficits in the first place, UNLESS they're "OBAMA'S deficits".


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





I'd check who's post you are replying to dumb ass.




LOL. It's not his fault.




It's always his fault. He's gay.



I posted under you and wrote what you would write.




Gottcha. Don't mess with my puppet I spin him all over as it is. Are you trying to make the boy go crazy?



No. I was bored.



Cool.....

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:05 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're assuming I'm replying to you. In the future, if you're going to assume things, assume you're wrong. It will save you time, since you're always wrong.



Picked the wrong post to quote. I was refering to newts post were you responded KKKaney...and selling kids

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:07 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're assuming I'm replying to you. In the future, if you're going to assume things, assume you're wrong. It will save you time, since you're always wrong.



Picked the wrong post to quote. I was refering to newts post were you responded KKKaney...and selling kids




I got that. You did reply to the wrong post, but I knew what you meant. See you around kkkaney

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:10 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

No one has ever "won" an argument with a Liberal. You ought to change your mantra to "The modern definition of a "racist" is someone who isn't a Liberal." That would be more accurate, and it would better define what 80% of Americans are...not.



"The modern definition of 'Independent' is someone who throws rabid Libs & Cons into a pit to watch them kill each other."



The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:10 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
You're anti-corporate, huh? So things like Cars, TVs, Movies, Clothes, Food, DVD's, Hotels, Airlines, CD's, don't interest you; you likely boycott these products of evil corporations, right? Even those models you're so fond of...guess what? Made by corporations.


Corporations are not regulated by government anymore, they practically ARE the government.
See, we have speed laws to protect the public at large, but corporations have removed laws that they feel hinders them. Can WE do that with speed laws? No. So why do corporations get to be like a person, but ALSO like the government? Money. Some corporations are fine. Some are not. But in these times of dog-eat-dog, even good ones are forced to play by dirty rules. That sucks.

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Congratulations, you've just won second place in the Miss America Pageant.

If we spent trillions fighting hunger instead of phantoms, MAYBE the world would swing over to our way of seeing things more. MAYBE shitheels like Saddam would be ousted WITHOUT our "assistance." MAYBE it's better to make mega-friends than mega-enemies.
But a peaceful world would threaten profits for the Starks of the world who haven't embraced a true understanding of their roll in things yet.

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I think you are, or at least you lean hard that way. On one hand you hate the Govt., but then you support Obama socialism.

Obama was, once again, the lesser of two evils.
I vote for ONE thing, and ONE THING ONLY- who is less likely to amp up military hostility in the world.
You and I both know Obama is out in the next election. A good Libertarian leaning Republican is my hope for the next President.
It is a dream I have...



I've got a lot of respect for you. You can mix it up in an adult manner, and you make thought-provoking points. I don't know about the Obama thing though. He is always underestimated, and can never be counted out of anything. Even this coming mid-term election is far from the "done deal" the polls and pundits are saying.

We are much alike you and I, both proud of our ships.......






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Thursday, October 7, 2010 5:17 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I don't know about the Obama thing though. He is always underestimated, and can never be counted out of anything.

All I know is he doesn't automatically get my vote a second time unless he delivers some bold yet thoughtful stuff... or unless the other choice is, like, Palin & Limbaugh.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 6:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Jongsstraw: Corporations produce nothing. PEOPLE DO.

I NEVER say "Toyota makes cars" or "LG makes televisions" or "AMD makes chips". They don't. PEOPLE have been making stuff since before corporations, and PEOPLE will continue to make stuff long after corporations are a history lesson. The only thing corporations make are profits. Screw 'em.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 6:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Yanno, if five percent of the worlds population is consuming 90% of it's resources...

Anyone ever think that maybe ELIMINATING that five percent from the fucking equation might not be a morally repulsive, but tactically sensible, idea ?

Just sayin, yanno.

Oh, and word for the week.
Quote:

"No noise complaint in history was ever solved by making more noise, unless that noise was a gunshot, kid."

I love my job...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 7:33 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:

Gottcha. Don't mess with my puppet I spin him all over as it is. Are you trying to make the boy go crazy?




It's cute that you think that. Really.

You and "Newt" have both said you're each other, repeatedly, so I treat you as one entity. It doesn't "spin" me or make me crazy; it makes it less work to respond to either/both of you, or ignore either/both of you. You being the same makes things EASIER for me.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 7:36 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsstraw: Corporations produce nothing. PEOPLE DO.

I NEVER say "Toyota makes cars" or "LG makes televisions" or "AMD makes chips". They don't. PEOPLE have been making stuff since before corporations, and PEOPLE will continue to make stuff long after corporations are a history lesson. The only thing corporations make are profits. Screw 'em.




Right on.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 7:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So Chris,

You're FOR The FairTax?



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."




I'm not Chris, but I'll throw this out there anyway...

Depends on what you mean by "fair" tax.

Capital gains taxed as income? Sure.

Social Security taxes applied to ALL payroll earnings? Check (Currently they're capped at around 5.2% on the first $106,800 of income, and zero after that. Extend them to 5.2% on ALL income, and that alleged shortfall in Social Security goes away).





The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010 9:36 AM

NEWTGINGRICH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:

Gottcha. Don't mess with my puppet I spin him all over as it is. Are you trying to make the boy go crazy?




It's cute that you think that. Really.

You and "Newt" have both said you're each other, repeatedly, so I treat you as one entity. It doesn't "spin" me or make me crazy; it makes it less work to respond to either/both of you, or ignore either/both of you. You being the same makes things EASIER for me.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.




Keep me out of it. Thank you.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 2:27 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


95%ers rule.

;-))


Think happy thoughts is all!


SGG

Tawabawho?

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Friday, October 8, 2010 2:30 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Bush always wanted his name to be linked and be part and parcel to, historical significance..........I dare say he got his wish.

The king is dead, long live the king.


SGG

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Friday, October 8, 2010 4:03 PM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

One thing DOES seem clear when it comes to who's in charge, though: When a Democrat is in the White House, the national debt is shrinking, and when a Republican is in the White House, it's growing - A LOT!



Again, it's the congress to observe, not the chief executive, so your colorful chart means very little. I don't expect you to recall the politics from 1994-1998 but the republican congress had to almost force the president to sign a budget that was balanced. I only wish they had stuck to their principals as they led the way into 2000 rather than discard them. But they can pick up the baton again.

But if we are to refer to your chart I must observe that it stops suspiciously short of 2009 and 2010 where the debt bars are so much longer..

But I'm not surprised at that, I'm not expecting any intellictual honesty from you on RWED.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 4:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

One thing DOES seem clear when it comes to who's in charge, though: When a Democrat is in the White House, the national debt is shrinking, and when a Republican is in the White House, it's growing - A LOT!



Again, it's the congress to observe, not the chief executive, so your colorful chart means very little. I don't expect you to recall the politics from 1994-1998 but the republican congress had to almost force the president to sign a budget that was balanced. I only wish they had stuck to their principals as they led the way into 2000 rather than discard them. But they can pick up the baton again.

But if we are to refer to your chart I must observe that it stops suspiciously short of 2009 and 2010 where the debt bars are so much longer..



Could be that the chart was made before the final numbers were in for 2009. Seems to me I've seen that chart around here for quite a while. If that's the case, obviously they couldn't include the numbers for 2010 either.

But yes, it SHOULD include the spending for 2009 and 2010, where the debt bars are a little longer than for Bush's fiscal 2008 budget.

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But I'm not surprised at that, I'm not expecting any intellictual honesty from you on RWED.




Y'know, I *COULD* point out that Democrats have traditionally paid down the debt and cut deficits, as I've shown, and that "they can pick up the baton again". Of course, YOU could have pointed that out, too, since you're so willing to give the Republicans a chance to try again, even given their abysmal record in the past.

I'm not surprised that you wouldn't offer them the same chance. I'm not expecting any "intellictual" honesty from you on RWED or anywhere else, because you've never shown an iota of it in the past.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Some Dystopia don't seem so bad now, for example 'Dark Angel' universe seems kinda nice, nobody would have predicted they use the military police power of the Federal Government to attack families and homes who speak against Transexual perversions in schools.


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