People are not evil by Fremdfirma

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People are not evil

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Thursday, October 14, 2010 17:01
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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:27 AM

Here's one in the eye for that whole 'people are evil' philosophy.

Tree Town Toy owners arrange shopping spree for dying 7-year-old cyber-bullied by neighbors
http://www.annarbor.com/news/tree-town-toy-owners-arrange-shopping-spr
ee-for-dying-7-year-old-cyber-bullied-by-neighbors/

Quote:
The owners of specialty toy retailers Tree Town Toys decided to do something. They arranged a dream day for the girl, including a shopping spree at their place.

And they're inviting the community to come along to cheer on Kathleen Thursday morning.

Her special day begins 9:30 a.m. at Tree Town Toys, 2611 Plymouth Road, in the Traver Village Shopping Center. That spree will follow a donated limousine ride from her home. She’ll walk down a red carpet donated by A1 Rental. Busch’s has donated hot cider and donuts for the crowd the toy store owners hope will show up.

After the spree, Kathleen and her family will deliver toys from the store to children at C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital. Kathleen will also be taken out to lunch for her favorite meal, steak and watermelon.

“If we’re going to make her a princess for a day, let’s make her a real princess,” Hans Masing said. “I want hundreds of people cheering her on. Let’s throw rose petals. Let’s make her understand this is all about her — her day of a lifetime.”

Awesome, more info here.
https://treetowntoys.com/

And of course you know imma be with the cheering crowd, cause I just gotta be - I got a biiiiig soft spot for unhappy children.

*snaps fingers*
THAT for the notion that people are inherently wicked!

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:13 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Some people are indeed evil, like the ones that posted those despicable things and images to the little dying girl.

And if you want to see lots more "evil" people, just watch MSNBC's Lock-Up series a few times. Pure evil, and lots of it.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:23 AM

CHRISISALL

Evil peeps are like Darth Vader.
Good peeps twisted by nurture/nature.

Yeah, they generally need to be removed from this planet. But politely.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:30 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

People are indeed not fully evil.

Even Hitler loved his dogs.

As to the ones hurting the little girl...

Isn't law funny? I mean, if her Dad or any family member, killed the ones who parked the deathtruck in front of her house... THEY would be the ones to go to jail.

Is that fair? Maybe just, but far from fair.

"I got no strings, so I have fun
I'm not tied up when we need one
They've got strings but you can see
There are no strings on me!"

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:48 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:

As to the ones hurting the little girl...

Isn't law funny? I mean, if her Dad or any family member, killed the ones who parked the deathtruck in front of her house... THEY would be the ones to go to jail.

Is that fair? Maybe just, but far from fair.

Y'know, I *get* where you're coming from, and what you're getting at, but are you sure you want to go down that road?

Do people have an inherent right to not be offended? If so, how far does it extend?

I think these people are despicable assholes, but I also have to come down on the side of free speech. Sorry. I think Frem will back my position on this, too.

Doesn't mean I can't have my own little celebration when THEY are dying, or that I can't party at their funeral.

But killing someone for being an unthinking asshole seems a bit harsh. I mean, hell, Wulfie, there are several people who think that about YOU, you know! And quite a few who think that about me as well.

So are you and I fair game for murder now?

Conversely, if you or I think we're being "bullied", do we have the right (might be just, but far from fair, after all) to track down and kill those who call us names here? I've had quite a few death threats, more than a couple calls for me to be banned outright; is this cyberbullying, or just people being asshats?

The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:49 AM

KWICKO

Meanwhile, I love what these others are doing. You can't stop people from being assholes. But once in a great while, you can actually show people that not ALL people are assholes.

The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:53 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

I just dont get the WHY of it.

WHY do that stuff to a little child on FB?

WHY park that truck in front of her house?

Hell, even those guys on Lockup(tm) KNOW that KIDS are OFF-LIMITS.

Free speech, I love it because its needed. AND, even when assclowns like Fred Phelps abuse it...

you've got folks like the Freedom Riders who step up and COUNTERACT the evil.

"I got no strings, so I have fun
I'm not tied up when we need one
They've got strings but you can see
There are no strings on me!"

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:16 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Quote:
Evil peeps are like Darth Vader.
Good peeps twisted by nurture/nature.

Yeah, they generally need to be removed from this planet. But politely.

In a nutshell.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:43 AM

DREAMTROVE

A small % of people are evil. It's the nature of the power structure that gives them the power to do greater evil. Hence, the system is evil, as a conduit. Bullying takes place when there's sufficient power structure, and that structure can be pretty small. I remember as a kid, a class of 12 was large enough for it to happen, but not a class of 5.

Anyone yet see "Let me in?" I saw the original, and I think the whole film as a comment on bullying was pretty interesting. I'm gnawing over whether to see the remake or wait for it on netflix.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:55 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Nah, wasn't a matter of "evil" - twas a matter of folk letting a petty little grudge fester in their hearts cause no one called em on it, due to people being too NICE, is what it is.

Once they were called out, even the folk behind that mean spirited bullshit realized how fucking stupid and petty it was and dropped it while being mortified at themselves for their own conduct.

Which is, how it should be.

Who says there are no happy endings, neh ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Evil peeps are like Darth Vader.
Good peeps twisted by nurture/nature.

Yeah, they generally need to be removed from this planet. But politely.

Is that your FINAL solution ?

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:22 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Is that your FINAL solution ?

Sadly, sometimes.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:24 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Evil peeps are like Darth Vader.
Good peeps twisted by nurture/nature.

Yeah, they generally need to be removed from this planet. But politely.

Is that your FINAL solution ?

You seem to have mistaken Chris for a certain GOP Tea-Bagging Congressional candidate.

The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:36 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

No, I merely responded to Chrissy's own words. A foreign concept for your little brain, I know.

( and did ya catch Chrissy's Firefly reference ? I did

)

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:18 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I agree with Chris. I wish it weren't so, but I believe there are a small number of people in this world who are simply not slavageable, and need to just "not be". It's why I'm on the fence about the death penalty; it's wrong, but there seems no viable alternative sometimes.

Even tho' it costs more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for life, my feeling is that I wish they were just "not", and it's a conundrum. My own personal fears I suppose ("what if they ever get OUT?!?!"), but that's how I feel.

But inherently evil? No. Perhaps some kind of brain anomaly in some, but I don't believe in "evil" as existing on its own. What to do with people who ACT evil, I'm not wise enough to decide. So thank goodness I don't have to make those decisions.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:47 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Well, there were a couple dozen of us out there, and Cathy from Detnews was hanging around so they'll prolly cover it - kid looked happy as a clam, and who wouldn't ?

And now I gotta get my backside back downtown for the less pleasant part of the day, since they've decided to cover up the murderous misconduct which lead to the death of a local imam, and gave the usual spiel even WHILE in the middle of discussions with his family, as a deliberate, calculated insult...

And we're *all* gonna be there, Ron, Jackrabbit, Augustus, me and mine - so they can't be telling us each different stories and playin divide and conquer neither.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:00 PM

DREAMTROVE

Just in general.

Reading through some old christian rants of the turn of the century I came across this idea that the devil was the biggest lobbyist of all. It's a notion I can't shake, and it shakes my faith in the non-existence of evil.

Taoism, btw, calls for the non-existence of evil, a conflict I have to resolve, because something is clearly amiss somewhere...

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:02 PM

BYTEMITE

Frem: Another one? Or the same?

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Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:01 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Same one, Byte - they set him up with a plant trying to "donate" stolen goods (which he might not have known were stolen, certainly we can't ask him now) and the chain of events and autopsy report indicates they sicced the dog on him, then shot him while he was trying to protect himself from the dog - AND they shot first, before he even fired.

It's a mess, and of course the usual BS of letting the cops investigate themselves is worthless.

But enough of that...

All three local papers carried Kathleens story today, it's so sweet it should carry a warning label.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TastesLikeDiabetes

Detnews
http://www.detnews.com/article/20101014/METRO/10140452/Taunted-Trenton
-girl-goes-on-toy-spree

Freep
http://www.freep.com/article/20101014/NEWS02/101014070/1318/Girl-taunt
ed-about-dying-gets-toy-shopping-spree

AA News
http://www.annarbor.com/news/dying-little-girl-cyber-bullied-by-neighb
ors-gets-toy-shopping-spree-of-a-lifetime-in-ann-arbor/

I thought it all was especially cool, since I've done something similar myself for a kid before, as evidenced here.

The Dollhouse Story
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=11&t=29685

Seriously, all else I may be, imma sucker for unhappy children.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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