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Originally posted by whozit:
Dam, a "Bacon Chesseburger" would be great right now, I think I'll drive my SUV to the butcher shop and fill it with meat.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Am I being offensive now?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
If I see you as largely a reasonable person, would you say that I've misread you?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:



PS. What's your stance on cloneburgers, Chris, just outta curiosity ?

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Originally posted by whozit:
Dam, a "Bacon Chesseburger" would be great right now, I think I'll drive my SUV to the butcher shop and fill it with meat.

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Carnivore pussy asswipe. (trying to be offensive & get rid of my 'good' rep here)
If you were a MAN, you'd slaughter your meals-to-be your own self! Dickwad. Jerkface.
Go on and contribute to the destruction of our world- you won't feel the REAL pain of it, but your KIDS will. Or THEIR kids. Whatever.
He who dies with the most undigested meat in their colon wins, eh?

Parties weren't meant to last.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by whozit:


THAT'S HOW YOU LOSE YOUR REP CHRIS!!........ Ya radish licking moron.

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THAT'S HOW YOU LOSE YOUR REP CHRIS!!........ Ya radish licking moron.

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I didn't lose it; it was in my other jacket!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by whozit:
AHHAHAHAHAHA!! I just ate a turkey sandwich, I killed the turkey myself and ate it feathers and all.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Pizza (GOOD pizza) is a food of the Gods. I have no need of any other. Eat your dead animals.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Who said 'purely vegetarian'? Eggs from happy hens are cool. Organic milk, cheese... better for YOU AND the planet. A little dolphin-safe dead tuna or salmon can help in the serious amino-acid needs area.

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
So if you could get chicken or beef from a local farm you knew to be chemical free and open range, would that still be a no-no?

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How would that be different from dolphin-safe fishies?

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There's still a dead critter on the other end of the food chain, and fish have their own dangers as far as toxins in the flesh and environmental dangers from over-harvesting.

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Myself, I don't worry about amino acids as much as protein.

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How would that be different from dolphin-safe fishies?

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Less self awareness of the victim=less evil in the killing. IMO.

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Amino acids are protein.

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

Just because we don't empathize with its means of expression, doesn't mean a critter feels no pain, is my point.

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ETA: And how about the algebra? Killing one big fat cow provides as much sustenance as many little fish...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That one big fat cow eats 20 times what the same weight in fishies consume in the open sea, and farts CO2, & necessitates cutting down of forest to make open grassland available to feed it.

I humbly submit that your math skills suck, M4P.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
My favorite would have to be "Northern Light", which is what that guy just south of here calls his stuff, like I said he gets some serious honey from a buncha Hutterites, dunno what they feed the bees on tho - problem is how long it takes for him to run a batch.

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Come next spring I might start rolling a batch of "Halleluah", which is sack mead with white chocolate and caramel aftertouch

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

My point: not that eating animals is better, just that not eating animals isn't necessarily better either.

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My point: not that eating animals is better, just that not eating animals isn't necessarily better either.

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Methane arguments aside (I may be wrong on that point anyway), I notice you did not address the more humane aspects of my post. As in, species awareness & actual pain to higher functioning mammals vs. aquatic-types.

*goes to get a Mickey D's fillet-O-fish*

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Surely, I empathize with cats and dogs. Less so with snakes. Even less with fish. Not at all with spiders. But in my non-lizard brain, in my logic center, I can't swear that spiders aren't just as scared as me when they go scuttling across my shower wall, and I can't be sure that wide open fishy eyes don't get just a bit wider with fear and pain when the jaws of a predator tear into their delicate sides.

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Cruelty is built right into nature.

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I like the idea of no meat, but I can't argue myself into it, neither to make myself feel more honorable, nor for health reasons, nor for the environment. It's a good theory, is as far as I can get. It's just not convincing enough to make me give up duck in a light orange sauce...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
We had pet chickens for a spell- Wife & Sonisall gave up eating poultry. The grown foul friends went to live on a farm, and, roasted birds & chicken nuggets came back into our house.

I think too much, I think.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Who said 'purely vegetarian'? Eggs from happy hens are cool. Organic milk, cheese... better for YOU AND the planet. A little dolphin-safe dead tuna or salmon can help in the serious amino-acid needs area.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:


Ah, there's a man thinking like an ape. That's a compliment btw. Apes have a far superior diet to humans, which is why they live so long.

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Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. Proteins are peptides.

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Which pizza?

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
We're distant descents of eels or sharks, but not descendents of any land predator, and our biology shows it very clearly.

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