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Is Germany Europe's Next Terrorism Target?

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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:04 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Looks like it's not just us anymore:
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Germany has been on edge after authorities issued a new terrorist warning on Wednesday. Citing intelligence sources, they said Islamic extremists were planning an attack on German soil within the next few weeks. And for the first time, the government conceded that there was a "concrete" threat of attack. "According to a tip provided by a foreign partner, which we received after the Yemen [cargo plot] incident, we suspect an attack is being planned for late November," de Maizière told a hastily arranged news conference. "We now have further relevant information, which the security authorities agree on, indicating that we are currently facing a new threat situation." While he didn't reveal details of the plot, the Interior Minister said there was "cause for concern but no grounds for hysteria," and urged Germans to be on their guard. Given the mounting fears of an imminent attack, the government is beefing up security at airports, railway stations and other landmarks.

The new terrorist warning is in stark contrast to previous security alerts — in the past, the Interior Minister has played down the threat. Even after U.S. and British authorities issued travel alerts at the beginning of October, advising people going to Europe to be vigilant about possible terrorist attacks, de Maizière put a lid on the feverish speculation, insisting there was only a "high level of abstract threat" and there was no need for "alarmism."

So why have officials issued a new heightened alert? A senior German intelligence official tells TIME that German security agencies have been receiving a steady stream of intelligence reports pointing to a major attack ever since a series of videos threatening terrorism acts against Germany were released ahead of last year's federal election. But those intelligence reports have multiplied and gotten "louder" in recent weeks, and the warnings have become far more specific over the past few days. "We are pretty sure that there is a great danger, and an attack is imminent in Germany," says the high-level intelligence official, also confirming that late November was mentioned by one source as a possible date for the deadly attack.

Most of the reports are believed to come from foreign intelligence agencies — especially U.S. intelligence services — and German authorities are said to have detailed descriptions of the Islamic extremists involved in the new plot. "There isn't any concrete target, but we know who these militants are," says the intelligence official, adding that a German security agency has collected its own information in recent days, which suggests a "Mumbai-style" unit is on its way to Germany to launch a series of coordinated attacks.

For several years, German intelligence officials have been monitoring the movements of some 200 German Islamic extremists who have received training at terrorist camps in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region — at least 50 to 100 of them are believed to be back in Germany. And authorities are also trying to track terrorist sleeper cells, militants leading normal lives who have fallen under the radar of counterterrorism officials. "Germany is vulnerable to attack — it's involved in the international alliance against terror," says Rolf Tophoven, director of the Essen-based Institute of Terrorism Research and Security Policy. "It's hard to keep up with the comings and goings of German Islamic extremists — you only need one militant to mount a deadly attack."

Up until now, Germany has escaped an al-Qaeda–inspired terrorist attack, with authorities having foiled two major terrorism plots in recent years: the homemade bombs placed on commuter trains heading out of Cologne in July 2006 and the Sauerland terrorist cell, which was busted in September 2007 just as the radical Islamists were planning a series of car bombings in Germany. Those militants were thwarted, but the new terrorist warning is a chilling reminder that other jihadists have replaced them and the danger of attack is getting closer. De Maizière bullishly declared on Thursday, "International terrorism wants to spread fear and horror in our country. We won't let that happen." As armed police wearing bulletproof vests patrol Germany's airports and train stations, Germans will be hoping he can keep his promise.
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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2032203,00.html#ixzz15lC
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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:29 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I hope it can be averted. If not, I hope it can be endured and recovered from.

May God Bless and carry them through.

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:31 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


The fact that the government has some forewarning, and is actually acting on that forewarning, leads me to believe they have a good shot to stop it.

I wonder what would have happenned on 9/11 if the Bush boys hadn't been out to lunch when Richard Clarke was screaming from the rooftops about Al Qaeda...

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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, dear, Blue, I'm SO glad you've joined us! Another voice of reason; I, too, wonder what would have happened if the Bush Administration had been on the ball and listened to the warnings...on Katrina, too!

Hopefully, given our example, Germany will do better!


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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:53 AM

BLUEHANDEDMENACE


Heh, you can probably thank Jane's slower pace in getting the next parts of her Maya verse up for me migrating.

Constantly checking back for my next hit of crack eventually led to "I wonder what else is around here..."

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Friday, November 19, 2010 3:58 PM

DREAMTROVE


Germany would like to exploit terrorism, and will probably attack itself. Merkel is evil.

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Friday, November 19, 2010 6:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Niki2:

Looks like it's not just us anymore:

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Germany has been on edge after authorities issued a new terrorist warning on Wednesday. Citing intelligence sources, they said Islamic extremists were planning an attack on German soil within the next few weeks.....






'JUST' us ?

You're forgetting a few points on the globe, dear.

Bali ?
Beslan ?
London ?
Madrid ?
Netherlands ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:21 AM

DREAMTROVE


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Niki2:

Looks like it's not just us anymore:

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Germany has been on edge after authorities issued a new terrorist warning on Wednesday. Citing intelligence sources, they said Islamic extremists were planning an attack on German soil within the next few weeks.....






'JUST' us ?

You're forgetting a few points on the globe, dear.

Bali ?
Beslan ?
London ?
Madrid ?
Netherlands ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



You bring up an interesting point. The Beslan inside job theories are really strong, and London and Madrid are as well, as are some in Israel. It makes me wonder about the IRA. Certainly, the activities of the IRA resulted in Britain making N. Ireland into a police state which fulfilled their agenda.

Most terrorism seems to happen in the M. East, because when sectarian violence happens in LA or Chicago, we don't call it terrorism.


Now you have me wonder if, while not necessarily always the case, "inside job" should be the default suspect of terrorism.

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Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:28 AM

KANEMAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Looks like it's not just us anymore:

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Germany has been on edge after authorities issued a new terrorist warning on Wednesday. Citing intelligence sources, they said Islamic extremists were planning an attack on German soil within the next few weeks.....






'JUST' us ?

You're forgetting a few points on the globe, dear.

Bali ?
Beslan ?
London ?
Madrid ?
Netherlands ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "




As are you...

Lebanon?
Iraq?
Iran?
Isreal?
Russia?
Indonesia?
Pakistan?
Africa?


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Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Most terrorism seems to happen in the M. East, because when sectarian violence happens in LA or Chicago, we don't call it terrorism.


Now you have me wonder if, while not necessarily always the case, "inside job" should be the default suspect of terrorism.



This silly desire to try to equate gang on gang violence, or what ever you want to call 'sectarian' violence, to Islamic Jihadist violence is beyond bewildering.

You're missing the point, completely.

I think you're going far, FAR out of your way to try to explain away what's going on here, making these acts to be anything but what they truly are, that being the carrying out of what exactly the Islamo zealots SAID they were going to do, and in fact, have done so.

Why is it so hard for you to believe ?



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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