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U.S. officials deny they are urging technical takedown of WikiLeaks

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 7, 2010 06:06
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Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:35 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

U.S. officials at the Pentagon and State Department denied Friday knowing of any efforts to take down the WikiLeaks website or asking companies to do so.

The site's efforts to publish 250,000 diplomatic cables has been hampered by denial-of-service attacks, ejection from its server host and cancellation of its name by its American domain name provider. Each time WikiLeaks has worked out other arrangements to bring the site back online.

In written answers to readers' questions posted on the website of the British newspaper The Guardian, WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange alleged "abusive elements of the United States government" were behind the site's technical problems.

A State Department spokesman disputed that the U.S. government was involved.

"I am not aware of any conversations by the United States government with either any internet host here or any government over there at this point," said spokesman P.J. Crowley.

A Defense Department official also denied causing the technical problems slowing the WikiLeaks release of secret U.S. government documents.

More at http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/03/wikileaks.takedown/index.html?h
pt=Sbin


Note careful wording of that last bit.

Hey, I believe them...I trust my government; don't you?




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off





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Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:51 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Why do they even bother denying it? Do they think someone will believe them? Who's been doing it then? Elves?

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 5:09 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Actually, I'd suspect the Russians, since Wikileaks has said they'll be releasing Russian stuff soon, and the Russians have a history of hacking, service denial attacks, etc.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 5:46 PM

CHRISISALL


WikiLeaks serves the enemy, and must be destroyed.

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 6:29 PM

DMAANLILEILTT


Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 6:35 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Interesting perspective from Glenn Greenwald on Wikileaks history. Must read.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/18/wikileaks

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 6:42 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Actually, I'd suspect the Russians, since Wikileaks has said they'll be releasing Russian stuff soon, and the Russians have a history of hacking, service denial attacks, etc.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Or a bank. I mean, you don't have to be a nation to make a cyber attack. Assange isn't a nation. I'd imagine his enemy list is growing a little difficult to manage.

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 7:50 PM

CATPIRATE


I got your back Chrisisall.

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Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:11 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Actually, I'd suspect the Russians, since Wikileaks has said they'll be releasing Russian stuff soon, and the Russians have a history of hacking, service denial attacks, etc.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



Hello,

And radioactive milkshakes.

Everybody has a reason to take this man offline, and I think everybody who can get it done is trying hard. Including us.

--Anthony



Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

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Monday, December 6, 2010 2:36 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Interesting tweets on Wikileaks:

Quote:

“All the censoring of WikiLeaks is more alarming than the actual content of the leaks. It only further justifies WL’s actions.”

“It's not wrong to lie, cheat, steal, corrupt, and torture. It's wrong to let people know about it.”

“We elect Governments, not to dictate our freedoms, but to support our liberty. They serve us, we do not serve them.”



http://www.emirates247.com/news/world/new-wikileaks-website-not-availa
ble-in-most-of-uae-2010-12-06-1.325478


--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:34 AM

DREAMTROVE


Anthony

Agreed.


CTS,

yes, the story of crushing wikileaks is more worrisome than the actual leaks.

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Monday, December 6, 2010 7:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Why do they even bother denying it? Do they think someone will believe them? Who's been doing it then? Elves?
Quote:

Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.
’Bout says it for me. Idjits.

Oh, and
Quote:

the Russians have a history of hacking, service denial attacks, etc.
So do "we".


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Monday, December 6, 2010 8:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Everybody has a reason to take this man offline, and I think everybody who can get it done is trying hard. Including us.


Not everybody.

As Gandalf said, there are other powers in the world besides the will of evil.

Although the will of evil's fumbling around crashed the shit out of the Comcast DNS server, not that many noticed given how shitty their service is to begin with...

-F

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Monday, December 6, 2010 9:31 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


wikileaks docs I'm looking forward to seeing released....

9/11 was an inside job.

Iraq was phonied up, for oil, and to benefit Bush's campaign contributing buddies.

BIG OIL ties to Bush, and the attempt to cover up the real crisis of global climate change.

Val Plame being outed.

( to be quickly followed by ... )

Area 51 - the Real truth.

Who really shot JFK

The truth behind JFK Jr's (accidental ) death

Flight 800 ( and others )

Who sank the Edmund Fitzgerald, and why.

Bigfoot

Loch Ness Monster

Crystal Skulls






" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 9:41 AM

DREAMTROVE


And Auraptor's secret files... oh wait, nothing interesting there

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Monday, December 6, 2010 9:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
And Auraptor's secret files... oh wait, nothing interesting there




You're right about that. The most boring of all files, probably.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, December 6, 2010 11:40 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Anyone else see the irony in Wikileaks not telling who they employ or how they go about getting their stuff? Or that when asked by CNN about his Sweden *thing* he refuses to answer and walks out?
It's dead obvious why, but isn't that the same thing? To do his job he requires secrecy... ?






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Monday, December 6, 2010 11:57 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:


You're right about that. The most boring of all files, probably.



Oh, I pity you. I think I've had that job ;)

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Monday, December 6, 2010 11:59 AM

DREAMTROVE


Pizmo

He's a spy


Does anything about that suggest anything?

This is obvious information point two:

1) He's not on our side (or anyones)
2) He's a spy

I think as a rogue agent he's an asset, and yeah, it's ironic, but it needs to be this way. Any opposition requires secrecy. So does tyranny. But in a wikileaks world, if wikileaks had too much power someone would wikileak them on some rival wikileaks

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Monday, December 6, 2010 1:27 PM

FREMDFIRMA



He's probably a former ISA asset, who decided to go freelance and hold a grudge besides - a lot of em did that, and some of the other released files no one else is paying attention to do seem to point in that direction since it's likely he had those all along and just sat on them a while.

Oh, and BTW - You *do* know TWA 800 was a tragic accident, right ?
Nothin nefarious about it other than some brass covering ass, in the end.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, December 6, 2010 4:00 PM

DREAMTROVE


I'm afraid I might know the moron in question.

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Tuesday, December 7, 2010 6:06 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Pizmo

He's a spy


Does anything about that suggest anything?

This is obvious information point two:

1) He's not on our side (or anyones)
2) He's a spy

I think as a rogue agent he's an asset, and yeah, it's ironic, but it needs to be this way. Any opposition requires secrecy. So does tyranny. But in a wikileaks world, if wikileaks had too much power someone would wikileak them on some rival wikileaks



Actually, I think he works for the Time Mag & Big Media - they are cashing some fat checks because of him.

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