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But but but, Keisha is just expressing her freedom as a liberated woman!!!

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Of course, a more serious student of history will remember who the Spartans were, and get a jolly good laugh at those who would pride themselves at emulation, even in fevered imagination.

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Fact: Sparta was about as romantic as North Korea. Give or take a little egalitarianism, Sparta WAS North Korea. Spartan laws did everything they could to break down the family. Sparta was more anti-nuclear family than any Hollywood liberal could ever be.

Wanna know what a Spartan wedding night was really like? It's pretty hilarious, in an insane way. As soon as a Spartan girl got her first period, they grabbed her, shaved her head, dressed her as a boy, threw her down on her new husband's bed, and then, well, he had his way with her. What way was that? Since hubby had been in an all-male dorm since age seven, I'm betting that that night of lovin' was more like a skinny white boy's introduction to San Quentin after lights-out than it was like a chick flick. So when this movie shows the Spartan hero saying to his wife, "Goodbye, my love," I just had to laugh.

No Spartan ever told his wife he loved her. That would've been like treason, because the Spartan rulers wanted family ties snapped, so the only bond left was to the state. They left room for folks' natural urges by letting the women drink, which they did non-stop, and the men form what you might call close comradely bonds with their fellow soldiers.

In the ancient world, gay was a matter of who was on top. If you were a topper, that was fine; if you were the one getting in the ass, not so cool. In other words, prison rules. Sparta's leather-bar ways were a running joke to the ancient Greeks. The Spartans were stone killers - but they also preened like teenage girls before a battle. They grew their hair long, and before a fight they'd comb it, oil it, try out fetching new styles, put little baubles in their ears, anything to die young and leave a beautiful corpse.

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Gary sailed it out of the park when he thrashed "300" for exactly that.

Triumph Of The Vile
Or: 300 Bottles Of Idiocy On The Screen
http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=8516&IBLOCK_ID=35

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Fact: Sparta was about as romantic as North Korea. Give or take a little egalitarianism, Sparta WAS North Korea. Spartan laws did everything they could to break down the family. Sparta was more anti-nuclear family than any Hollywood liberal could ever be.

Wanna know what a Spartan wedding night was really like? It's pretty hilarious, in an insane way. As soon as a Spartan girl got her first period, they grabbed her, shaved her head, dressed her as a boy, threw her down on her new husband's bed, and then, well, he had his way with her. What way was that? Since hubby had been in an all-male dorm since age seven, I'm betting that that night of lovin' was more like a skinny white boy's introduction to San Quentin after lights-out than it was like a chick flick. So when this movie shows the Spartan hero saying to his wife, "Goodbye, my love," I just had to laugh.

No Spartan ever told his wife he loved her. That would've been like treason, because the Spartan rulers wanted family ties snapped, so the only bond left was to the state. They left room for folks' natural urges by letting the women drink, which they did non-stop, and the men form what you might call close comradely bonds with their fellow soldiers.

In the ancient world, gay was a matter of who was on top. If you were a topper, that was fine; if you were the one getting in the ass, not so cool. In other words, prison rules. Sparta's leather-bar ways were a running joke to the ancient Greeks. The Spartans were stone killers - but they also preened like teenage girls before a battle. They grew their hair long, and before a fight they'd comb it, oil it, try out fetching new styles, put little baubles in their ears, anything to die young and leave a beautiful corpse.

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The whole article is just chock fulla win.

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See? You're doing it again! Right there

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It should also be noted that while 300 Spartans fought bravely to the last man at the Hot Gates, so did 700 Thespians. No one ever remembers the Thespians. If absolute tenacity in war makes a man a warrior, then it was the Thespians, not the Spartans, who brought more warriors to the battle.

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Wulf has many ideas. You are just SO closed-minded that they go in one ear and out the other with zero recognition by your intolerant brain. If you stopped being such a snarky twattle you may learn something, there.....I said it.

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Kwicko and storymark fighting

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It should also be noted that while 300 Spartans fought bravely to the last man at the Hot Gates, so did 700 Thespians. No one ever remembers the Thespians. If absolute tenacity in war makes a man a warrior, then it was the Thespians, not the Spartans, who brought more warriors to the battle.

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But being Thespians, were they really warriors, or just acting like it?

(Sorry, but that one just begged for such a response...)

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I'd love to know exactly which RATIONAL ideas Wulf has presented. Mostly I see nothing but slogans and unrealistic claims for "us"--meaning himself--and slander of everyone else. No serious discussion, no facts, just flat overreaching statements which are 99% of the time wrong.

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It should also be noted that while 300 Spartans fought bravely to the last man at the Hot Gates, so did 700 Thespians. No one ever remembers the Thespians. If absolute tenacity in war makes a man a warrior, then it was the Thespians, not the Spartans, who brought more warriors to the battle.

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But being Thespians, were they really warriors, or just acting like it?

(Sorry, but that one just begged for such a response...)

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Thespians can be greek warriors and actresses at the same time.

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