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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:47 PM

WHOZIT


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

They should check behind the fridge.


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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:51 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Gawd, THAT ridiculous thing again? Will it ever end?? (Answer: No, as long as there are idiots walking around!)


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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:00 PM

MINCINGBEAST


No, that is not were birthers come from.

See, when a man loves a woman very much, or at least has a boner, the two of them sin against god and swap DNA. If the man and woman both have a great genetic potential for "the dumb", and if their environment is saturated with "the dumb", there is a very good chance that they create a future birther. That is where birthers come from.

That is not where Obama came from. As I have explained in great detail elsewhere, Obama comes from the Jews, and the pacific, from which he emerged fully formed as a sort of black male aphrodite bent on destroying America with socialism and so forth.

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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:08 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Holy shit! Demorat governor can't even cover it up. This deserves a full text quote.

Quote:

BORN IN THE USA? Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances

January 18, 2011

By Jerome R. Corsi
WorldNetDaily

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.

"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.

So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.

WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.

WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ahhh, Mincing...you are always such a breath of fresh air!

And you get the prize for the first snort and chuckle of the morning; many thanx.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:15 AM

JONGSSTRAW


This is one idiot Democrat Governor....

Quote:

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have.


No it won't ya maroon. Birthers are not part of mainstream politics, just like 911 Truthers aren't part of the mainstream. Obama's birth certificate is not an issue for 2012. There's enough of his record to challenge and defeat him without that nonsense.







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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Niki, I keep saying this...

But if the "birthers" are correct, this is going to change everything.

Because right after Obama is thrown out, (possibly jailed), then every Democrat will be under suspicion of coverup.

Not only will all of Obamas policies be instantly null and void, but most of the Democrats will be gone as well.

This might even lead to a civil war.

You said that ObamaCare was a done deal. its been repealed in the House... and is now a rallying cry against big government.

Obama needs to show his birth certificate, even if he thinks its stupid. It must be put up for independent verification, and proven genuine.

This is not going away.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:33 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Look, I'm reserving judgement on his legitimacy.

But the question has been raised. It has not been disproven.

IF I were Obama, I would say "Fuck it. Show them, do the tests."

Then again, I'm not arrogant.

He hasn't. That concerns me.


This can get real ugly real quick. If he really is a leader then he will prove it. It would probably even give him a boost in stature.

But if he does have something to hide, get in front of it now. Mitigate the damage.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

No it won't ya maroon[sic]. Birthers are not part of mainstream politics, just like 911 Truthers aren't part of the mainstream. Obama's birth certificate is not an issue for 2012.
(Were you teasing with "maroon"? I doubt you are unaware the spelling is moron, so I'm curious as to the meaning.)

The problem is, Wulf, you're ONE of them, so you can't see the forest for the trees. Birthers are a teeeny, tiny minority of the country (tho' a less teeny minority of the right). They have no power, they are laughed at, and they will make no impact on anything.

Of COURSE it won't go away, any more than the 9/11 conspiracy theory will, the endless debates over Kennedy's death (tho' it won't last as long as THAT) and all the other stupid conspiracy theories clung to by fantasy-world inhabitants like you.

Just plain not gonna happen, Wulf; and another example of how you haven't matured and can't see the world in otherwise than fantasy black and white.

So we mostly just ignore you, or mock you and your birther buddies. Were it not a joke, Mincing's explanation is the perfect one. Buncha deluded dimbulbs who have latched onto this particular conspiracy simply because they hate Obama and subconsciously can't accept his legitimacy, period.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:49 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Birthers are not part of mainstream politics, just like 911 Truthers aren't part of the mainstream.

Truthers are more mainstream than you think. They aren't in the same category as Birthers.

Unless, by mainstream, you mean mainstream MEDIA. But plenty of mainstream CITIZENS, who otherwise do not entertain conspiracy theories, wonder about the truth behind 9/11.



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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:49 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Aint much talking to you, is there Nicki?


"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:55 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Quote:

No it won't ya maroon[sic]. Birthers are not part of mainstream politics, just like 911 Truthers aren't part of the mainstream. Obama's birth certificate is not an issue for 2012.

(Were you teasing with "maroon"? I doubt you are unaware the spelling is moron, so I'm curious as to the meaning.)



Your big brain can't figure it out?







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Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Nope. Don't got a clue. Eddicate me please, JS?


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:12 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Look, I'm reserving judgement on his legitimacy.

But the question has been raised. It has not been disproven.




Sure it has, to anyone but idiots who refuse to believe it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:13 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
(Were you teasing with "maroon"? I doubt you are unaware the spelling is moron, so I'm curious as to the meaning.)



What, you've never seen a Buggy Bunny cartoon?



"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:15 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


OMG... STORY IS NICKIS PUPPET!!!!


I caught you, oh yes I did!


lol

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:58 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
if the "birthers" are correct, this is going to change everything.


If magical fairies flew out of my butt, that would change everything, too.

Facts are stubborn things.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:08 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I've brought this up on multiple occasions, so I'm not sure why I bother to bring it up again since nobody pays attention, but I'm staggered by the insistence that this birth certificate has never been examined or verified when it is a fact that Barack Obama has a U.S. Passport.
I don't know how many of you have gotten passports, but they require you to staple your birth certificate to the application. It is then sent away, examined, and verified before a passport will be issued. This is what happens. Now disregarding the fact that such things as citizenship would be checked before his nomination for President could be ratified, and the fact that he has, on multiple occasions, produced this elusive document, the simple fact that the man has a passport tells me that someone has examined and verified his citizenship, and long before he ever even entered politics.
Please, people, I beg of you, do some actual research on this. When this whole brouhaha started two years ago I read extensively on Obama's history, the analysis of his birth documents, the laws of the country, the laws of citizenship, and anything I could find to see if it was even remotely possible or if any of the arguments were valid. The answer was no. Paired with my own experience applying for a passport, I dismissed this wild ridiculous story. I cannot fathom how it's still going.


I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:22 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


(cough cough illegals can get really good docs... cough cough)

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:28 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Oh yes, of course. I'm sure that the President of the United States has a fake passport with a fake RFID, and no record of being issued, and no one has ever noticed.

Occam would be proud.


I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:37 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Well.

Lets look at it this way.

HOW badly did the Democrats want to win? How badly did they want to have a token, a pretty boy, to hold up? Someone whom they thought, that if anyone questioned, could be made out to be raciss, and instantly dismissed?

Who would ever be so stupid, so crazy, as to ever argue with the first black President? And if the unthinkable happened, how EASY would it be to just shuffle them under the umbrella of racism?



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:08 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
OMG... STORY IS NICKIS PUPPET!!!!


I caught you, oh yes I did!


lol

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.




My pointing out that by her questioning the spelling of a word, she was missing a reference.... makes me her sock puppet?

....seriously?

That's pretty fucking stupid, Wulfie - even from you. And that's saying a lot. Every time I think you've reached the nadir of idiocy - you manage to get even dumber.

Though I'd truly love to hear an explanation as to what exactly you think you "caught". Hell, I've been posting here longer than either you or Niki.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:15 AM

DREAMTROVE


1) birthers and truthers have nothing in common, and the attempt pt to link them is an MSM conspiracy. 80% of the worlds population think our official 9.11 story is fishy, and about 40% of americans do. Truthers have generally done a ,ot of research, and birthers, whose numbers are small, have done none, which is why none of them have even proven that obamas mother had ever been to Kenya,

2) simple logic: we are going to have baby. It's 1961 or thereabouts, You're from Kenya, a third world country in a civil war that our child could be conscripted into, or we could have it in my country, the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth with the greatest citizenship rights, etc. (I don't know that this would hold in 2010, but many believe it, which is why there are anchor babies. It was overwhelmingly believed in 1961.

3) now interested in devoting any more time to this lunatic woman from moldova who is also not a citizen and started this thing to prove that McCain was not a citizen, because she works for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Soon Obama became a bigger threat to Clinton than McCain, and he still is. Who do you *think* will run in 2012 if Obama cannot?

And let's just assume that the dems will win 2012 because 2/3 of all US presidential elections are decided by the third larynx split, and that will be whoever loses the tea party vs neocon battle for the GOP nomination, thus giving us a democrat.

And I have no idea why iPad changed party to larynx. It's been doing stuff like that. Hey kids, want to go to a cool larynx.

Oh, and this is just the nonsense I was just mentioning that wastes our time.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:16 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

HOW badly did the Democrats want to win? How badly did they want to have a token, a pretty boy, to hold up? Someone whom they thought, that if anyone questioned, could be made out to be raciss, and instantly dismissed?


Uh... So they couldn't get a native born black person to run for president?

I mean, inherent in this argument is the assumption that they couldn't get a native born Black person in America so they had to get a foreign one. It doesn't make a whole lotta sense, Wulf.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:21 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Well, the person would have to have SOME political backround.

I mean, the only other choice is what... Sharpton?

Im just putting on my tin-foil PN hat here. But, Hillary was unelectable, and... if you thought like Dems...

How to score points?

Why Obama of course...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:33 AM

BYTEMITE


Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus

Although... Point about Hilary being unelectable, even though she's secretary of puppeteering. But that's how it usually goes anyway.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:56 AM

STORYMARK


Huh, Wulfie bitched out again and couldn't back his words....

Must be Thursday.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Birthers are not part of mainstream politics, just like 911 Truthers aren't part of the mainstream.

Truthers are more mainstream than you think. They aren't in the same category as Birthers.


You're right on that point, considering President Obama appointed a Truther, Van Jones to his inner circle as a czar for a while until he resigned. I know that Charlie Sheen was a big public voice and face for truthers. And who could question Mr. Sheen's integrity, character, and intelligence?








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Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:58 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
(Were you teasing with "maroon"? I doubt you are unaware the spelling is moron, so I'm curious as to the meaning.)



What, you've never seen a Buggy Bunny cartoon?



"



Buggy Bunny? Watched it since I was an embryo, but I always thought his name was Buzz Bunny. Isn't that weird?








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Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:02 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


It really IS easy to joke about this stuff, isn't?


But as I like to play devils advocate..

What IF the birthers are RIGHT?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:19 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


What IF a leprechaun ran around my office scattering gold pieces? What IF unicorns ran down rainbows to heal all the sick and wounded of the world? What IF there was a delicious food that would not cause the body to store fat or react in any other way? What IF our imaginations could just generally create their own realities?


Facts are stubborn things.

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:22 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


"What IF a leprechaun ran around my office scattering gold pieces?"

Why, then you would be just like this.





or this



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.


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Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Niki, I keep saying this...

But if the "birthers" are correct, this is going to change everything.

Because right after Obama is thrown out, (possibly jailed), then every Democrat will be under suspicion of coverup.

Not only will all of Obamas policies be instantly null and void, but most of the Democrats will be gone as well.

This might even lead to a civil war.

You said that ObamaCare was a done deal. its been repealed in the House... and is now a rallying cry against big government.



Nobody with an IQ above that of a soapdish believes that. Not even the Republicans.


Quote:


Obama needs to show his birth certificate, even if he thinks its stupid. It must be put up for independent verification, and proven genuine.

This is not going away.



Actually, he doesn't, because he's already been certified.


This Space For Rent!

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
OMG... STORY IS NICKIS PUPPET!!!!


I caught you, oh yes I did!


lol





Seriously?

Y'know, for about a day there, you actually seemed to have a brain, and a coherent thought in it.

And then... this.

This Space For Rent!

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:19 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Well.

Lets look at it this way.

HOW badly did the Democrats want to win? How badly did they want to have a token, a pretty boy, to hold up? Someone whom they thought, that if anyone questioned, could be made out to be raciss, and instantly dismissed?



So you admit that's why the GOP had Michael Steele as their chairman? You admit that's why the Tea Party backed Allen West?


This Space For Rent!

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:37 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
OMG... STORY IS NICKIS PUPPET!!!!


I caught you, oh yes I did!


lol





Seriously?

Y'know, for about a day there, you actually seemed to have a brain, and a coherent thought in it.

And then... this.

This Space For Rent!




lol

seriously, you can check people's sign up date by clicking on their name. Story was here a long time before Niki

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:41 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"What IF a leprechaun ran around my office scattering gold pieces?"

Why, then you would be just like this.


Hm. No, you're completely wrong about that, as well. In fact the opposite would be true, but in even greater fact you are a pro at missing the point. The point being that our imaginations don't create reality and you're deluded.

It takes all the fun out of pointed mocking when I have to explain it. I suppose I shouldn't engage in one-sided battles of wits.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 9:12 AM

STORYMARK


Poor Wulfie turned tail again. Shocker.

Dumb and cowardly. The perfect FFF symbol for the tea party.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 21, 2011 9:28 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Actually, one of my New Years Resolutions was to not waste time arguing with idiots.

So I won't argue with you, Story.

Just point and laugh.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Friday, January 21, 2011 9:33 AM

STORYMARK


Apparently your resolution involved not telling the truth, or owning up to any mistakes, too. Oh, right, that's always been your style.

You think I'm an idiot.... yet you were the one who fucked up and doesn't have the stones to admit it.

So, if I'm an idiot, what level of mental decrepitude have you reached? There's not one poster here who isn't vastly smarter than your hillbilly ass. I pity you.

You had the chance to prove me wrong, but instead you just backed me up. You're too dumb and cowardly to be honest. Like a good teabagger.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 21, 2011 9:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well, Wulf could put forth the argument that at some point Story felt the need for a sickpuppy and created “me”. How many here do we know have done that? Sickpuppies still show up periodically, which shows that people create them any time. So my entry date means nothing.

Nonetheless it’s totally stupid, and I don’t even understand his “reasoning” (I use the term advisedly). Why would Story answering my question about “maroon” mean we’re the same person?!

Neither here nor there, Wulf’s problem with the birth certificate is much more serious. I don’t’ know why people keep responding to the birther shit...as you can see by the posts on it that it’s a waste of time; Wulf NEEDS somehow to believe Obama is...whatever he is. He’s had to reach further and further afield to make any points in favor of it. The mere idea that the Dems could get away with having an illegal alien nominated is, well, just . That one’s a REAL reach.

Sweet Rose,
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I'm not sure why I bother to bring it up again since nobody pays attention
You nailed it. And it isn’t that what you said before isn’t getting attention; the intelligent people here recognize it and you explained it perfectly, so there’s no reason to repeat it. More, they respond to Wulf’s wild suggestions (for what reason I don’t know!). And we also know that Wulf will pay no attention to your explanation

And yeah, me too
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I cannot fathom how it's still going.
I kinda ceased to wonder a while back and realize it’s just self-delusion which fits a need, and will be defended ‘till the cows come home whenever it comes up; then people react, and away it goes. Too bad people react, or it would be gone almost as fast as it appears.

Just since I was last here: Wulf diverts attention by calling me Story’s sickpuppy (which he really had to reach to do); Wulf points out that illegals can get good documents; you knocked that down with reality; Wulf “backs up” his point by claiming the Dems would go to extreme lengths to get a Black man elected; (skipping “Story snarked at Wulf”); DT ountered with good points—and I might add that, #2 makes a lot of sense to me; Byte shows the idiocy of the Dems going through all that to get a NON-NATIVE Black man elected (and I agree; Wulf defends it by presuming they are stupid enough to think “How to score points? Why, Obama of course”, which is equally stupid and way underestimates the Democrats; Byte knocks it down; Story snarks Wulf; JS remarked about truthers (by the way, I love the Sheen bit!); Wulf backs up to “what if”—-maybe having run out of ideas (by the way, Wulf, “what if” works better when the “what if” has SOME basis in reality); there’s some back and forth; Mike makes two points that I agree with (all the Allan West thing was hysterical); Lili remarks she shouldn’t engage in a one-sided battle of wits (goes without saying); Story snarks at Wulf; Wulf hides behind “not arguing with idiots”; Story snarks Wulf.

Yes, Lili, you’re right...but when was this a “battle of wits”? This was one NITwit clinging to the birther line, trying to defend it pathetically, and everyone else telling him he’s wrong. So yes, Rose, and Lili, I agree with both of you. Which is why the very first response to this was “Gawd, THAT ridiculous thing again? Will it ever end?? (Answer: No, as long as there are idiots walking around!) I knew where it was going (I’m guessing ALL of us are sick enough of trying to get through that if we’d thought about it, we’d not have bothered further) and was sorry to see it pop up again, as it does nothing but waste our time. Which it managed to do. Our bad.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Friday, January 21, 2011 10:02 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Ok.

So the "what-if" of obamas legitimacy is now considered off limits?

Well, there goes the free exchange of randomn ideas.

What next?

Rewriting history. Oh, you guys did that with Huck Finn.

You guys really DO use 1984 as a manual, huh?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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Friday, January 21, 2011 10:25 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok.

So the "what-if" of obamas legitimacy is now considered off limits?

Well, there goes the free exchange of randomn ideas.

What next?

Rewriting history. Oh, you guys did that with Huck Finn.

You guys really DO use 1984 as a manual, huh?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"





While I don't think the 'birthers' are right or even really have a case, they've a right to their questions as much as anyone else and I don't care for how their branded as ignorant, racist, etc...

But before anyone calls you out on it, I'd like to gently remind you that Huckleberry Finn is not history and most of the 'liberal' posters here were against the censorship.

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Friday, January 21, 2011 10:37 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


•"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed--would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper--the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."

•"Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children."


•"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"


•"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself--anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face...; was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime..."


"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



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