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Joel Skousen on Alex Jones: CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH IN HAWAII DOES NOT REQUIRE BIRTH IN HAWAII, SINCE SKOUSEN GOT ONE FOR HIS KID BORN AT HOME
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He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there.” I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.

No one wanted to go, and at that time, my camera had failed me weeks before we hit Mombassa and it was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone else’s pictures to develop myself so I had copies of where I was. But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didn’t mean we were friends.

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In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.

And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table to my right front, his hands resting on the edge of the table, him leaning forward, his smile, all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii .

Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained as to why it matters.

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I wonder why the conspiracy theories never get the same scrutiny from the tinfoil hat crowd as reality does?

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While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama...

I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it...

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Originally posted by SteadyBee:

Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. This may explain why he refuses to allow Hawaii to release of a long-form copy of his birth certificate. A high resolution copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at www.WasObamaBornInKenya.com

The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate directly from the birth hospital on February 19, 2009 is included as part of his 'July 4, 2010 Letter to Congress', which is also available for free download at the same website.

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Originally posted by SteadyBee:
Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. This may explain why he refuses to allow Hawaii to release of a long-form copy of his birth certificate. A high resolution copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at WasObamaBornInKenya.com

The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate directly from the birth hospital on February 19, 2009 is included as part of his 'July 4, 2010 Letter to Congress', which is also available for free download at the same website.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I wonder why the conspiracy theories never get the same scrutiny from the tinfoil hat crowd as reality does?

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
You seem rather to describe yourself as a skeptic, and your grasping for the fashionable tinfoil hat label seems weak.

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I don't know what makes you think that you are a tinfoil hat person. You state that you are, but then you argue against it with rational fact and reason.

You seem rather to describe yourself as a skeptic, and your grasping for the fashionable tinfoil hat label seems weak.

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Because PN's a nutcase, just like Loughner, so reality never even gets out of the gate. And he spews the same effing script, which quite frankly I find tiring and dangerous.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certifi
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"I own a Faraday shield, which we constructed ourselves, to protect our family from the harmful effects of microwaves and radio waves. That makes me a card carrying member of the Tinfoil Hat Club."

Hello,

Ah. Rather broad and literal.

Okay, I am a member of the electromagnetic forcefield club, then.

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This is why no one likes you, involving you in something is like throwing a grenade.

-Wendy

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"Oprah Winfrey has been leading up to the announcement of this giant secret that she's going to reveal. She's revealed it. Have you heard what it is? She has a half-sister. The half-sister has Obama's birth certificate."
-Rush Limbaugh

"Things are so bad for Barack Obama these days that even Democrats are asking for his birth certificate."
-Jay Leno

"If you want to protect vital national security secrets from WikiLeaks, just put them in the same vault as Obama's birth certificate."
-Mike Huckabee

"First, they said Obama's a socialist. Then they say he's Muslim. Now they're saying he wasn’t even born in this country. It's got me thinking. OK, the guy might not be qualified to be president. But I guess he is qualified to drive a cab in New York."
-Conan O'Brien

"According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, more than a quarter of the public have doubts about Obama's citizenship, with 11 percent saying Obama was definitely not born in the United States and another 16 percent saying the president was probably not born in the country. Twenty-seven percent of Republicans say he was probably not born here, and another 14 percent of Republicans say he was definitely not born in the U.S."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/04/cnn-poll-quarter-doubt
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"We now have a real American military hero, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, convicted in a court martial and sent to prison, because Obama won't show us his birth certificate. That's not funny. And it's not funny that 58 percent of Americans have no confidence the man in the White House belongs there under the constitutional standard. It's about time this should be viewed as a national security crisis. It's true that the outdoor advertising cartel, owned by major media conglomerates like Clear Channel, CBS and Lamar, have steadfastly refused to post our message because they want to curry favor with regulators in Washington," Farah said. "These companies have no problem with soft-core porn, with ads renouncing God and with outrageous vulgarity. But they do have a problem with political speech – with a simple, non-threatening question like, 'Where's the birth certificate?' It's an unbelievable double-standard by companies that are supposed to be in the First Amendment business. But, then again, look at how their parent companies have treated this issue in their news coverage."
-Joe Farrah, editor World Net Daily

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Originally posted by Niki2:
As to the "tinfoil hat crowd", CTTS, you don't even come close. In my opinion, that term applies to those who see conspiracies EVERYWHERE, sensible or not.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Except CTS maybe you're not as rational as "they" think. Do you know how rational "they" think you are?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

LMAO, you guys rock, just so ya know...

So does my reprogramming my cars EDR to issue a profane diatribe about privacy, RFID tags to munge up the reader, and stuff like that qualify me as a member of the "Return Fire Club" ?

Cause, yanno, I really want a mind control beam, oh the havoc I could raise in a congressional session when I make em all start doin the funky chicken for no particular reason at all...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I said that you were indiscriminately skeptical of everything mainstream....

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
You don't need a mind control ray to do that, just outbid their previous buyer.


(Hey, I'm a lobbyist from lunatics of america, and we're offering you twelve million to, instead of reading the bill when it comes up, to puck like a chicken until your time expires.)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
By the way, I know some really wonderful people who battle schizophrenia. It makes me uncomfortable to see people use the term jokingly or negligently. Just me.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Of course, the complexity of my argument is often lost to folk who seem to think skepticism of something there is plenty of reason to be dubious about is unwarranted - but having been *right* several times on this when I damn well wished to hell I wasn't...

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Originally posted by Niki2:
CTTS: Perception is not reality. And you DO make far too much sense on many subjects to be considered "tinfoil hat", in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Actually, there's nothing "kind" about saying in my opinion you make too much sense to be considered tinfoil-hat material, is there?

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Originally posted by kaneman:

This is clear...Barry is a nigger born in Kenya. Well, it's true....

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I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy". My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama's birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as

my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Snopes is notoriously unreliable on anything with a political slant.

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