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Originally posted by Kwicko:
It's not a lie if you believe it to be true. You said that.

I believe that you believe all those things.

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But only because you've been actively promoting those views here for so long now.

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First thing we need to do is roll back spending to pre '08 levels, and THEN start cutting.- rappy

WHY? Why?
I bet everyone on this board you to fail to make your point.-Signy

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Wrong, and wrong. If you think our mounting debt has no bearing on our ability to pay it off, then I'm wasting my time even trying to discuss this topic with you.

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No, things actually got worse. Few factors have been improving. What financial news do YOU listen to , just curious.

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Well, the money ISN'T moving. That's the problem. Because of the uncertainty of how much the cost of business will be in the near future, the economy is at a near stand still. ObamaCare, pending high interest rates, threats of higher taxes... all are combining to grind the " recovery " to a halt.

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Different cultures , different values, all play a part in how an economy works. Not to mention the resources a nation has, the types of jobs and manufacturing , education... all sorts of factors go into driving an economy. It isn't just the number of head in a herd, as it were.

What works in 1 country won't necessarily work in another.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
It's not a lie if you believe it to be true. You said that.

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Which shows just how wrong you are.

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But only because you've been actively promoting those views here for so long now.

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Prove it.

Prove I said the Iraq War would only cost us 17 billion $, or anything near that amount.

Prove I said we should 'give' our $ to the rich. ( I'll save you time right there, I never said anything like that, ever )

Per usual, you're full of claims, but come up empty on delivering the goods.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
we need to reinstate the draft. Put millions in the Army, pay 'em $ 22 a month plus room and board, give 'em boots, a tin hat and a gun, and project American free enterprise ( but not imperialism...) and democracy around the world, especially in places where their skins are a darker color, or they worship some heathen god, or maybe they've got oil.
Let's start World War III to keep all of those draftees busy, not the one with the H-Bombs, but the one with EVERYBODY fighting it, on one side or the other. Oohboy. DeadEye Dick Cheney's wet dream. And Bush43's, Rumsfeld's, Ashcroft's, William Kristol's.
And remember, it worked in 1942, brought us out of the double dip of '36-'37.

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
we need to reinstate the draft. Put millions in the Army, pay 'em $ 22 a month plus room and board, give 'em boots, a tin hat and a gun, and project American free enterprise ( but not imperialism...) and democracy around the world, especially in places where their skins are a darker color, or they worship some heathen god, or maybe they've got oil.
Let's start World War III to keep all of those draftees busy, not the one with the H-Bombs, but the one with EVERYBODY fighting it, on one side or the other. Oohboy. DeadEye Dick Cheney's wet dream. And Bush43's, Rumsfeld's, Ashcroft's, William Kristol's.
And remember, it worked in 1942, brought us out of the double dip of '36-'37.

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Not a bad idea, so long as we start with every politician and business mogul who supported this nonsense, and then nationalise the required industry in the name of "national defense"...
Man, they'd get us out of their so fast all you'd see is a dust cloud!
-Frem

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