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TSA and the 22 Percent

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
UPDATED: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:27
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Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:47 PM

BYTEMITE


http://discovermagazine.com/2011/dec/02-big-idea-seeing-crime-before-i
t-happens/article_view?b_start:int=1&-C
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The system correctly determined whether a person was going to commit a malevolent act 78 percent of the time.


If you have panic attacks, PTSD, or other symptoms of anxiety disorders, TSA may not be for you. Consult your doctors and lawyers before using TSA.


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Friday, January 27, 2012 8:42 AM

FREMDFIRMA


That whole concept pisses me off, it does - that minority report bullshit doesn't belong in the real world, and I highly suspect their false positive rate is higher than anyone thinks, here's why.

Okay, take deception - yes there are certain "tells" by which it can be somewhat reliably determined when someone is shovelling ye olde manure... HOWEVER, a skilled dissembler, or a sociopath, may not show them, or be able to suppress them, and then your fancy-schmancy concept comes round and bites you on the ass when they feed you a line and you swallow it wholesale, cause you depended on something that did not merit such belief in it, right ?

Now, here's the thing - most people, no matter how well trained, WILL eventually give it away, that's why some dimbulbs are fond of the long-form interrogation (well, other than pure malice and sadism, which is far, far more common) because under stress the training will crack or slip and they'll fumble the ball.
That is, mind you, if they're trained to hide deception...

See, I work it another way, by habitual reflex, my body language will always, ALWAYS, tell you I am lying - NO MATTER WHAT I SAY, my body language will always, ALWAYS tell you that there's malicious intent, EVEN IF THERE ISN'T, cause this jams up those stupid little games completely and makes them pointless to play with me.
And for a fact, some level of this instinct is present in a lot of people, particularly folks who grew up in bad neighborhoods, since it's a common defensive survival mechanism.

Which is something they didn't account for supposedly testing this garbage, and one MIGHT consider the source of this information itself as suspect, cause you might recall that EVERY SINGLE TIME one of these supposed fix-it-all technologies comes out and they crow about how accurate it is, how safe it is, or how effective, it turns out 100% of the time to be a LIE.
Those puffer-sniffer machines ? went in the landfill.
Biometrics ? proven useless.
Body scanners ? other than for voyeuristic purposes, essentially ineffective.

The list goes on and on, and given that the manufacturers of such equipment, who desperately want to sell it at high markup to gullible would-be-stormtroopers, are involved in said testing, the whole process is suspect from top to bottom, as is everyone involved.

Frankly the greatest danger to us as a country, as a people, is and always has been, our so-called protectors.

Ergo, I posit that if a person is wearing a TSA uniform, there's a 100% chance they have malicious intent, and lookee, I didn't need thousands, millions of dollars of equipment to determine it!

Fekkin morons, the lot of them, and incompetent besides.
And above all things, I loathe incompetence.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, January 27, 2012 10:41 AM

BYTEMITE


Pretty much what I figured. Not only do the morons try to set an unlikely baseline for "normal" but they aren't adjusting for the statistical outliers.

This is what happens when people rely on psychological quackery. And are authoritarian douchebags.

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Friday, January 27, 2012 10:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Speaking of...
I really am enjoying the living hell out of turfing a hefty percentage of my fellow Sith.

If yer gonna be evil at least be competent, yanno ?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoWrongRight

-F

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Monday, January 30, 2012 11:27 AM

DREAMTROVE


How appalling. Laws are totally arbitrary and written to make people sabotage their own lives and enslave themselves to TPTB, and we're inundated with propaganda so that we'll believe in them, and if we believe enough we'll actually end up defending them to others and bringing everyone in line. It's easy to tell who is going to break the law by measuring how well the propaganda has stuck.

The physical build of this mac is poor.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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