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Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:03 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Looks like Santorum, now being a "serious candidate", is being taken down a peg by his opponents, as was destined to happen, and he's not faring so well:
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The four GOP presidential candidates had one last chance to state their case in front of the nation before Tuesday's primaries in Arizona and Michigan.

Santorum weighed down by Washington

It wasn't just that Romney and Ron Paul pressed him on his past support for earmarks, the Title X family planning program, the 'No Child Left Behind' education bill and his endorsement of moderate Republican Senator Arlen Specter over conservative Pat Toomey in the 2004 Pennsylania Senate primary.

Santorum made matters worse for himself by aggressively defending his Beltway votes.

He said he was "proud" to stand up for earmarks -- which many conservatives view as wasteful government spending -- after being elected to the House in 1990 and then to the Senate in 1994.

"Congress has a role of allocating resources when they think the administration has it wrong," Santorum said. "I defended that at the time. I'm proud I defended it at the time, because I think they did make mistakes. I do believe there was abuse, and I said we should stop it, and as president I would oppose earmarks."

His reputation probably wasn't helped by the fact that Google searches for the word "earmark" spiked dramatically during the debate, soaring upward by 2300%.

Santorum's explanation of his vote for 'No Child Left Behind' was even more complicating.

"I have to admit, I voted for that," he said. "It was against the principles I believed in, but, you know, when you're part of the team, sometimes you take one for the team, for the leader, and I made a mistake."

His comment drew boos from the crowd, but Santorum pushed forward.

"You know, politics is a team sport, folks," he said. "And sometimes you've got to rally together and do something."

To some conservatives, it may have sounded like Santorum was admitting to being part of the big government problem during the George W. Bush administration.

Santorum's labored defense of his Capitol Hill resume not only reinforced the accusation that he is a tainted Washington insider. It also undermined the central theme of his candidacy, that he is the only true conservative in the Republican race.

Santorum's defiance has its limits

Santorum seems incapable of defending his record without going into extensive and sometimes problematic detail, often with a hint of annoyance. It's not a new phenomenon. Now that he's in the spotlight as the national Republican frontrunner, Santorum is struggling to stick to the campaign playbook that says a candidate should deliver concise answers and move on.

Santorum's senior adviser John Brabender said his candidate has trouble letting some accusations go unanswered.

"The question is, should he just be fighting back against Romney, or should he be explaining his record," Brabender said. "It is his record, and I think he feels like he has a responsibility to defend it."

Romney was happy to let him do that on Wednesday. http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/23/politics/5-things-arizona-debate/index.h
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I wouldn't be caught dead watching these things, as the lies and bullshit they spout to diss Obama and the left would ruin my appetite. Happy to see Santorum taken down a peg or two, tho'. His "more Christian than thou" attitude turns my stomach.


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Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:11 AM

HKCAVALIER


Kinda too bad he gets docked for simply being honest about the "team sport" thing. Nobody wants an actual PERSON in office, they want a perfect propaganda delivery system. Don't get me wrong, the man is certainly reprehensible for oh so many reasons, but this explanation of his vote for "No Child Left Behind" should not be met with boos by rational humans.

HKCavalier

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:28 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


It felt different to me, either: he was booed for admitting to putting obstructionist party politics ahead of his personal beliefs, OR the crowd booed him for giving up the Rep. SECRET, "yeah, we may deny it publicly but we're pretty much only here to eff with Obama anywhere we can, hell with any beliefs."

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Are there any "rational humans" LEFT on the right? Given what I see happening around me, I often wonder...



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Monday, February 27, 2012 10:30 PM

OONJERAH



Good article(s) by a former conservative with a sensible perspective:

Why Conservatism Fails => http://secularist10.hubpages.com/hub/Why-Conservatism-Fails



Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oonj, I really liked the article at that link you posted. Too bad our righties will never get past the first sentence or that they would rationally debate the issue. Could potentially have been a really interesting debate.



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