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Hilary Rosen: No apology

By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 4/12/12 9:46 AM EDT
Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen just took to CNN again, this time to defend herself over her controversial comments about Ann Romney never working "a day in her life."

Rosen insisted she wasn't attacking the choices of stay-at-home moms, and suggested the Romney campaign was slamming her to take focus off the candidate's record - in an appearance in which she offered no apology, as President Obama's campaign manager Jim Messina had called for.

"This really isn't about stay at home moms versus working moms," she said. "It's about women in general. I love stay at home moms..."

She added, "I have kids. Being a mom is the hardest job in the world. I've said consistently...look Mitt Romney (has) bought his wife into this conversation. This is not about Ann Romney...this is about the waitress" elsewhere in America with two kids can afford to have care for her kids while she works.

"This isn't about whether Ann Romney, or I or other women of some means can afford to make a choice and stay home and raise kids," Rosen said. "Most women...don't have that choice. and that's the piece that I'm not hearing from the Romney campaign."

As for making Ann Romney a piece of the campaign, Rosen said, "He's the one who keeps doing this, not me."

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Less than 24 hours after Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen mocked Ann Romney for having "never worked a day in her life," Rosen apologized to Romney this afternoon for her "poorly chosen" words and aimed to "put the faux 'war against stay at home moms' to rest once and for all."

"I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended," Rosen said in a statement. "Let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance."

Former first lady Barbara Bush commended her apology, echoing Rosen's plea and saying people should "forget it."

"Life is good," Bush said on Fox News today. "Women who stay home are wonderful, women who go to work are wonderful. Whatever."

Bush, who worked at home raising seven children, one of whom would go on to become the 43rd president, said she was lucky to have had the luxury of staying home.

"I was lucky my husband worked very, very hard," Bush said. "I realize that was a luxury and Ann does, too. She's a very good friend of mine."

The former first lady added, "I'm not critical of Hilary but I'm just sorry she took a knock at those of us who chose and who were able -- and that's very important able -- to stay home."

As the general election revs into full force, women's issues and the "war on women" have taken center stage, with President Obama aiming to maintain his substantial lead among women voters and Mitt Romney striving to rekindle support with the all-important female voting bloc.

But Rosen's remarks Tuesday pushed policy prescriptions to the back seat as leaders of both parties focused squarely on her personal attack.

While Rosen sought to refocus the debate on whether Romney has "a vision for bringing women up economically," she did not back off her comments this morning.

"This is not about Ann Romney, this is about the waitress in a diner in some place in Nevada who has two kids whose day care funding is being cut off because of the Romney-Ryan budget and she doesn't know what to do," Rosen said on CNN. "This isn't about whether Ann Romney or I work, other women of some means can afford to make a choice to stay at home and raise kids. Most women in America, let's face it, don't have that choice."

Ann Romney hit back an hour later, telling Fox that her "career choice was to be a mother." She said that whether women chose to work or to stay home and raise children, "we have to respect women in all those choices."

"Mitt respects women that make those different choices," said Romney, who'll be 63 Monday.

About a quarter of U.S. women made the same choice as Ann Romney to make "mother" their job title in 2010. According to the most recent Census data, 23 percent of married women with children younger than 15 were stay-at-home moms.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/hilary-rosen-apologizes-ann-romney
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Originally posted by Storymark:
HA! Yeah, a comment about a single woman is much worse that the many attacks the GOP has made against women, lately. This, from the guy who accuses others of distracting from "real" issues...

Oh, Rappy, you just can never stop with the funny.

Priceless.

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Barry said in 08 to "lay off his wife".

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There have been no attacks by the GOP on women.

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Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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If you went to bed oblivious of the news last night, there was a mini-bruhaha over a comment Hilary Rosen, the former head of the RIAA and a DNC Advisor, made to Anderson Cooper on AC360 last night. I was on AC360 with both Hilary and Paul Begala.

Hillary said that Ann Romney, a mother of five sons who has had breast cancer and MS, had “actually never worked a day in her life.” Ann Romney made her debut on twitter to take issue with the remark. The White House and Obama campaign were quick to distance themselves and say Hilary should offer an apology.

For what it’s worth, in context Hilary was talking about the workforce and recession and I don’t think she meant to insult stay at home moms or Mrs. Romney. On Twitter, Hilary explained she was taking issue with Mitt Romney using Ann Romney as his expert on women and Ann Romney did not work both a full time job and raise the five boys concurrently.

But more than that, I actually never even heard her make the remark originally because I was still dwelling on how Hilary had started her statement. Hilary said the Democrats had actually never used the phrase “War on Women,” and that it was a Republican invention. I turned on twitter and saw all the outrage and literally said out loud, “How’d I miss that?”

Saying the Democrats had never coined the “war on women” terminology threw me for a loop.

As the other statement about Mrs. Romney was being made, I was replaying in my mind where I’d heard the “war on women” rhetoric. Turns out the Democrats started it all the way back in February of 2011 and even Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Chair of the DNC and a congresswoman has gone all in with the rhetoric.

Hilary saying the Democrats hadn’t started it threw me for a loop because I’d played on my radio show DNC Chair and Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Meet the Press from March 4, 2012. From the transcript:

MR. GREGORY: Nice to have you here in studio. So let me ask you about this issue of contraception and this fight over social issues. Just as I’ve asked your–the two other guests I’ve had this morning, can you appreciate where they’re coming from, which is–this is not a war on women, which they say is a vast overstatement, or about access to contraception, but this is about religious liberty that started with the president’s new regulation about faith institutions and access and who pays for contraception.

REP. SCHULTZ: Well, if it’s not a war on women, then let’s just look at what happened this week in contraception. First, you had the Blunt-Rubio bill that was on the floor in the United States Senate that wouldn’t just deal with making sure that women couldn’t have access to contraception, it would actually say that any boss could use their own moral conviction to decide what access to health care their employees could have, making sure that women would have to have their own access to health care, whether it’s to mammograms or contraception or to amniocenteses or any other type of health care access, decided by their boss. And that was defeated in the Senate. So the Republicans actually want to go much further than just saying women shouldn’t have access to, to contraception. They want to say that bosses should be able to decide what kind of access to health care women can have.

On Political Capital with Al Hunt on April 6, 2012, there was this exchange with the Democratic Congresswoman and DNC Chair:

HUNT: You have charged that the Republicans are waging a war on women. They say that is nonsense. The gender gap issue will disappear as we get closer, at least it will erode as we get closer to the election. And that the Democrats, in fact, have a Catholic problem.

WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ: Well, it is clear in this country that the jury of women across America have ruled, that the Republicans have been unbelievably extreme and out of touch and hyper-focused on cultural issues.

I mean while we are supposed to be focusing, and should be, as President Obama has been, focused on getting the economy turned around and continuing to move us forward and create jobs, their side is obsessed with cultural issues.

Note that she does not deny using the phrase.

Likewise, there was Debbie Wasserman Schultz on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley just this past weekend pressed on whether or not there really was a “War on Women.”

“The focus of the Republican Party on turning back the clock for women really is something that’s unacceptable and shows how callous and insensitive they are towards women’s priorities,” she said. That’s not exactly a denial.

At the same time, liberal Talking Points Memo from just yesterday characterizes the “war on women” this way:

Mitt Romney has tried to turn Democrats’ claim of a “war on women” by the GOP against them this week, accusing President Obama of waging his own “war on women.” Slower job growth for female workers, Romney insists, is evidence of Obama’s war.

On just about every MSNBC show — official press organ of the Democratic Party — the hosts routinely use the phrase to characterize the GOP. For the past two weeks, it has been a consistent theme on the show. Given how MSNBC doesn’t actually read news, but DNC talking points, it’s a stretch to say the Democrats aren’t behind it.

MoveOn.org sent out a letter on February 19, 2011 (yes, that long ago) accusing the GOP of a “war on women” writing

Dear MoveOn member,

It might seem hyperbolic to say that Republicans have declared a war on women.

Sadly, it’s not.

On March 25, 2011, NARAL Pro-Choice America, EMILYs List, and MoveOn.org started a “Stop the War on Women” campaign.

The list goes on.

It is the Democratic National Committee Chairwoman, Democratic Party mouthpieces, and outside groups pushing the Democrats’ agenda that have all said the GOP is at war against women.

To now deny that the Democrats came up with the term and to say the GOP did it is not just unfair, it is factually wrong. But my guess is that this is an admission that the “war on women” approach isn’t working well for the Democrats.

In fact, we can verify that.

Just last week, Gallup released a new poll with this finding:

Eight in 10 independent women in the swing states said they were not familiar with Romney’s position on contraception, but those who were familiar disagreed with it by a 2-to-1 ratio. Independent women were more likely to have an opinion about Obama’s views on contraception (58% were unfamiliar), and were divided about evenly between saying they agree or disagree with them.

Two things stick out like a sore thumb to me on this. First, 80% of independent women in swing states have no idea what Romney’s position is on contraception despite all the Democrats’ rhetoric. Second, of those who know about Obama’s position, they are split roughly 50-50 on liking his position. That doesn’t seem like it’ll be a problem for Mitt Romney.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/04/12/democrats-never-said-war-agai
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Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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How about one with tangible evidence.

Lets start with specifics: In Obama's White House women make on average 18% less then men. Obama has barred women from his Golf outings.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Rosen wasn't talking about " a single woman " , moron. She was talking about ALL women who choose to live their life they way they want to.

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Rosen wasn't talking about " a single woman " , moron. She was talking about ALL women who choose to live their life they way they want to.

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Let me start by saying that you’re an idiot. Yes she was talking about one individual woman. You don't understand that because you are an idiot. She has since apologized for her comments which she should not have made. She does not represent the whole Democratic Party, if you think so it is because you are an idiot. The policies of the GOP are very much attacks on women, again because of your condition, an idiot, you don't understand that. If you somehow overcome your problem, being an idiot, you will understand that your threads such as this do nothing but give people a chance to point out that problem.

...which is being an idiot.


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Originally posted by Hero:
How about a more general viewpoint: High unemployment means fewer women have jobs. High taxes mean working women pay more. Forced health care forces women to buy a govt health plan that they would not otherwise choose to buy. Housing and economic turmoil force women to remain in abusive relationships because they cannot afford to get divorced. High unemployment means more domestic violence. Women are forced to pay for govt programs that are contrary to their religeous beliefs. Women in unions are forced to make contributions that do not reflect their political beliefs. Women are forced to subsidize the development of green technology. Etc.

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Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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Originally posted by WHOZIT:
Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

As for "invasive procedures", that is what an abortion is, the doctor (if you want to call him/her that) shoves a vacum up the womans hoo hoo. Is that invasive or house cleaning?

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

As for "invasive procedures", that is what an abortion is, the doctor (if you want to call him/her that) shoves a vacum up the womans hoo hoo. Is that invasive or house cleaning?

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No, she wanted help to pay for BC medication numbnuts. Plus not all abortions involve a vacuum, infact the vast majority only involve medications.

You have google use it!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
None of that was brought up by the GOP. You're flat out lying, straight up.

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Democrats Now Say They Never Said ‘War Against Women’?

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So Rappy thinks that only stay-at-home moms are "REAL women", eh?

Big surprise.

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Democrats Now Say They Never Said ‘War Against Women’?

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She, Hillary Rosen, said that Democrats had not used the phrase “war on women” and it was a Republican invention."

Nancy Pelosi April 8th 2011:

“There is actually a war on women,” the California Democrat said Thursday in Washington, taking aim at House Republicans’ efforts to defund Planned Parenthood and restrict access to abortions, among other measures.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Best part about this thread is the title is more an attack on women that anything Rosen said.


...because Rappy and idiot!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Hilary Rosen!

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Which is why Hilary apologized, huh?

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Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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Jesus, are you in a rush to make yourself look dumber? She was talking about birth control pills (not condoms), as a medical treatment for cysts (not for sex) - and was talking about a friend (not herself).

Is there anything you don't get worng, you blithering fuckwit? Please, Darwin yourself out of the gene pool.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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The key word is "FREE"!

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The key word is "FREE"!

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Help paying for does not equal free...try again!

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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None of that was brought up by the GOP. You're flat out lying, straight up.

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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You're like something out of another century. Do you really despise women who enjoy sex? I suppose in your world view we should just be tolerating it out of duty to our husbands. sheesh, I haven't seen such neanderthal views expressed for ages. Yuck.

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LOL!!!!


Holy shit, what fantasy world do you live in?

Women are sluts for wanting contraception - even for non sexual reasons.

Women must have unessesary, invasive procedures before an abortion.

Doctors can lie to women.

All brought to you by the GOP. But that's in this world.... where the Raptard fears to tread.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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Jesus, are you in a rush to make yourself look dumber? She was talking about birth control pills (not condoms), as a medical treatment for cysts (not for sex) - and was talking about a friend (not herself).

Is there anything you don't get wrong, you blithering fuckwit? Please, Darwin yourself out of the gene pool.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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The key word is "FREE"!

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Limbugh said "1" woman was a slut for wanting FREE rubbers so she could save $ and have all the sex she wanted in school, if she's not a slut what the hell is she?

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You're like something out of another century. Do you really despise women who enjoy sex? I suppose in your world view we should just be tolerating it out of duty to our husbands. sheesh, I haven't seen such neanderthal views expressed for ages. Yuck.

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If I have to pay for her sex pills so she can have sex with a bunch of horny law school guys then I guess Rush was right. What they pay to go to "Orgy Law School" is more then I make in a year. Yes Rush was right, they should do sex tapes and post them on the internet, they could call the site, sluttylawschoolgirls.com

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If I have to pay for her sex pills so she can have sex with a bunch of horny law school guys then I guess Rush was right. What they pay to go to "Orgy Law School" is more then I make in a year. Yes Rush was right, they should do sex tapes and post them on the internet, they could call the site, sluttylawschoolgirls.com

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It's good you can use the internet to find porn. Now use it to find out how prescription birth control works and why your above statement is all manor of stupid.

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Hmmmm.... women who work aren't real?

Wow.

Rappy's experience with "real" women must be almost nil, and limited to his mother. An extraordinarily revealing post by rappy, but waaaay TMI.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
It is clear Rosen's comments were about Ann Romney not being on a par with Mrs Average, because she has had the luxury of being able to have the choice to stay at home.

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It is clear Rosen's comments were about Ann Romney not being on a par with Mrs Average, because she has had the luxury of being able to have the choice to stay at home.

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I agree, the Democrats continue their war on mothers by fostering a poor economy that forces women (and some men) to work when they might otherwise choose to stay at home to raise their kids.

Just another example of Democrats taking away a woman's right to choose. Its one thing to choose career over family, its another to be forced to take a job or several jobs to make ends meet because President Obama is making things so much worse for everyone.

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It is clear Rosen's comments were about Ann Romney not being on a par with Mrs Average, because she has had the luxury of being able to have the choice to stay at home.

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I agree, the Democrats continue their war on mothers by fostering a poor economy that forces women (and some men) to work when they might otherwise choose to stay at home to raise their kids.

Just another example of Democrats taking away a woman's right to choose. Its one thing to choose career over family, its another to be forced to take a job or several jobs to make ends meet because President Obama is making things so much worse for everyone.

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It is clear Rosen's comments were about Ann Romney not being on a par with Mrs Average, because she has had the luxury of being able to have the choice to stay at home.

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I agree, the Democrats continue their war on mothers by fostering a poor economy that forces women (and some men) to work when they might otherwise choose to stay at home to raise their kids.

Just another example of Democrats taking away a woman's right to choose. Its one thing to choose career over family, its another to be forced to take a job or several jobs to make ends meet because President Obama is making things so much worse for everyone.

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